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dlcurt
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Originally posted by Detroit Leos
I am pretty tired of hearing about counters at this point. I think we need something new that is OP like FB screens or inside FB runs.


 
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
They are just impossible to defend against when you have to defend against other types of plays at the same time.

To me, that means the fix is in adjusting counter focus D plays to not be terrible against the pass and pass focus D plays to not be terrible against the counter.


This is where my opinion lies. As an all running team, counter's were stopped. They definitely weren't OP. Where they were OP is trying to stop the 3 wide spam AND the 3 wide counter. So nerfing counter's is not the answer, they are part of the game. Giving the defense a way to stop a counter and a 3 wide is something that should be looked at.

 
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Just fix the damn blitz pathing in relation to the line of scrimmage. That would change the whole counter/pass dynamic.

Also a bevy of defensive plays could be added that would help against certain OP formation counter/pass combos.
 
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Originally posted by Detroit Leos
I am pretty tired of hearing about counters at this point. I think we need something new that is OP like FB screens or inside FB runs.


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Rob.
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From 10/16/14: Originally posted by Corndog
- Strength of counter fakes reduces slightly


Since we already know it can be done, this would be a simple fix that might help but not sway things too far. Just reduce the strength of counter fakes further.
 
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They could also adjust Trips HB Counter slightly so the pathing right around the pitch uses a bit more footwork. Should slow things down slightly.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
They could also adjust Trips HB Counter slightly so the pathing right around the pitch uses a bit more footwork. Should slow things down slightly.


http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/245148/3309752

Bit like what the HB does here? He has 0 footwork. Most of the time that's. TFL for him though
 
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Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/245148/3309752

Bit like what the HB does here? He has 0 footwork. Most of the time that's. TFL for him though


brag post?

(sweet juke though)
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve
brag post?

(sweet juke though)


I would feel bad bragging against a tier below...... He's done it quite a few times and that was the only one I knew how to find in 1 minute. (Because of the sick juke obvs!)
 
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Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/245148/3309752

Bit like what the HB does here? He has 0 footwork. Most of the time that's. TFL for him though


Yeah, like that. I've noticed it way more on some other counters, so I thought they were just coded for that or something.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
They could also adjust Trips HB Counter slightly so the pathing right around the pitch uses a bit more footwork. Should slow things down slightly.


Fixing trips counter doesn't help with Big I Counter left, which I think is on par with it and maybe even better.
 
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Originally posted by Rob.
Fixing trips counter doesn't help with Big I Counter left, which I think is on par with it and maybe even better.


Agree, the extra blockers makes it more dangerous.
Edited by DeeVee8 on Dec 2, 2015 09:26:44
Edited by DeeVee8 on Dec 1, 2015 16:55:54
 
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BEST OF STATS Season 14

Total Offensive Yards *Through 28 Games*
1. Hall of Fame (Sophomore : Vodka) : 847 yards per game (Run Lean, 66% of yards from counters)
2. Djibouti Assassins (Veteran : Hydrogen) : 779 yards per game (Balanced, 56% of yards from counters)
3. EEA 2.0 (Professional : Hannibal) : 749 Yards per game (Run lean, 28% of yards from counters)
4. Panty Obliterating Rectal Ninjas (Professional : Patton) : 748 yards per game (Balanced, 38% of yards from counters)
5. Game of Zones (Journeyman : Cougar) : 732 yards per game (Balanced, 53% of yards from counters)

BEST OF STATS Season 12

Total Offensive Yards
1. Djibouti Assassins (Veteran : Hydrogen) : 690 yards per game (Pass Heavy)
2. Hostile Takeover (Professional : Ash) : 676 yards per game (Pure Pass)
3. Green Bay Packers (Veteran : Hydrogen) : 666 yards per game (Pure Pass)
4. Bronx Bombers (Professional : Ash) : 661 yards per game (Pass Heavy)
5. LogZilla Boys (Veteran : Diamond) : 651 yards per game (Pure Pass)
 
Rob.
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As you can see, the top offenses are putting up more yards per game while running the ball more. Doesn't make sense since you would think it would run more clock and result in fewer possessions. But these counters are resulting in so many big plays that they are much better than any passing play.

Global Stats


Veteran
SB Trip HB Counter Strong: 2108 times for 11.68 YPC
Big I HB Counter Sweep Left: 1678 times for 11.02 YPC

SB TE Drive: 4370 times for 6.73 YPA
SB TE Post: 6174 times for 6.67 YPA

Sophomore

SB Trip HB Counter Strong: 2968 times for 10.38 YPC
Big I HB Counter Sweep Left: 1579 times for 10.99 YPC

SB TE Drive: 3782 times for 6.78 YPA
SB TE Post: 5484 times for 5.69 YPA

NFL

Passing Yards Per Attempt

1. Carson Palmer - 8.83
2. Big Ben - 8.81
3. Russell Wilson - 8.38
4. Andy Dalton - 8.21
5. Tom Brady - 7.98

Rushing Yards Per Attempt

1. Ryan Mathews - 5.7
2. Thomas Rawls - 5.6
3. Russell Wilson - 5.2
4. Doug Martin - 5.1
5. Jamaal Charles - 5.1

GLB2 (Vet)


Top 5 HOF QB's YPA

1. Belgarath - 7.8 YPA
2. Skippy - 7.5 YPA
3. Candice - 8.3 YPA
4. Angelina - 7.8 YPA
5. Bullet - 7.2 YPA

Top 5 HOF HB's YPC

1. Dion - 10.7 YPC
2. King Kong - 8.1 YPC
3. Lancelot - 11.7 YPC
4. Bull - 9.6 YPC
5. Garett - 8 YPC

Also:
Earth Rocker(Pro)- 11.8 YPC
Chitwood(Pro)- 12.7 YPC
Arya (Journey)- 12.7 YPC
Wes Craven(Seasoned)- 10.9 YPC
Barry(Soph)- 14.4 YPC

I know this game is not on par with the NFL, but rushing shouldn't be getting more yards per attempt than passing.
Edited by Rob. on Dec 1, 2015 23:57:54
Edited by Rob. on Dec 1, 2015 23:47:39
Edited by Rob. on Dec 1, 2015 23:46:31
 
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Damn Rob.
 
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