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n:iceman:16
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Originally posted by foofighter24
You are lead to believe that the cloud is secure.
I'm lead to believe a lot of bullshit that I know is factually inaccurate, and yet I know better than to trust any of the Cloud services that I use with any sensitive information.
You are lead to believe that the cloud is secure.
I'm lead to believe a lot of bullshit that I know is factually inaccurate, and yet I know better than to trust any of the Cloud services that I use with any sensitive information.
Time Trial
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Originally posted by Corndog
You're mistaking not condoning the action with feeling sorry for the victims.
I don't really care about the two names I recognize or the handful of others that I don't. I just don't think it's worth celebrating and making threads in forums announcing it. A crime that's becoming more and more common was committed, but it's cool because boobs.
The difference is empathy and sympathy.
I can empathize with how shitty the effects of the crime are without sympathizing with them about how they got there.
You're mistaking not condoning the action with feeling sorry for the victims.
I don't really care about the two names I recognize or the handful of others that I don't. I just don't think it's worth celebrating and making threads in forums announcing it. A crime that's becoming more and more common was committed, but it's cool because boobs.
The difference is empathy and sympathy.
I can empathize with how shitty the effects of the crime are without sympathizing with them about how they got there.
Originally posted by Time Trial
The level of empathy for the victim can slide with the level of assumed risk without assigning any more or less blameworthiness to the perpetrator.
I don't think that's how empathy works....
The level of empathy for the victim can slide with the level of assumed risk without assigning any more or less blameworthiness to the perpetrator.
I don't think that's how empathy works....
n:iceman:16
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Originally posted by Knick
I don't think that's how empathy works....
I don't see any issue with his assessment.
I don't think that's how empathy works....
I don't see any issue with his assessment.
Originally posted by n:iceman:16
Let's just end this.
Are these women blameless, yes or no?
I mean they obviously took these photos, so not really.
At the same time, its not like someone they sent them to put them out there, which means that they DID protect themselves as much as they thought they needed to, so sorta.
Let's just end this.
Are these women blameless, yes or no?
I mean they obviously took these photos, so not really.
At the same time, its not like someone they sent them to put them out there, which means that they DID protect themselves as much as they thought they needed to, so sorta.
Originally posted by n:iceman:16
I don't see any issue with his assessment.
Not objecting that empathy works on a sliding scale, but to say that scale is dictated by the assumed risk is pretty much not true.
I don't see any issue with his assessment.
Not objecting that empathy works on a sliding scale, but to say that scale is dictated by the assumed risk is pretty much not true.
Time Trial
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Originally posted by foofighter24
Would we also be blaming the women if someone broke into their home and stole polaroids from a safe?
Yeah, the word "blame" means it was their fault the crime was committed.
Whether the digital photos were on a private facebook account or in a safe doesn't mean that the women are to blame, nor does it make it okay to expose the pictures to the internet.
Risk mitigation is a trait that we should encourage in this world.
In a criminal action, we don't assign contributory negligence to the victim. You still don't walk around with a fistful of Benjamins or you increase your risk of getting them stolen. It doesn't make it any more or less of a crime, but it can affect the amount of sympathy you have for the person.
Foo, you are the champion of "actions have consequences".
Would we also be blaming the women if someone broke into their home and stole polaroids from a safe?
Yeah, the word "blame" means it was their fault the crime was committed.
Whether the digital photos were on a private facebook account or in a safe doesn't mean that the women are to blame, nor does it make it okay to expose the pictures to the internet.
Risk mitigation is a trait that we should encourage in this world.
In a criminal action, we don't assign contributory negligence to the victim. You still don't walk around with a fistful of Benjamins or you increase your risk of getting them stolen. It doesn't make it any more or less of a crime, but it can affect the amount of sympathy you have for the person.
Foo, you are the champion of "actions have consequences".
Time Trial
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Originally posted by Corndog
I mean, your card information is stored, therefore it's your fault if the company gets hacked and the info leaked? You had more money than other people though, so it's YOUR fault for using it. Should have been more responsible than to purchase from Apple or Amazon.
You have more to risk, you pay more in insurance. Fact.
I mean, your card information is stored, therefore it's your fault if the company gets hacked and the info leaked? You had more money than other people though, so it's YOUR fault for using it. Should have been more responsible than to purchase from Apple or Amazon.
You have more to risk, you pay more in insurance. Fact.
Time Trial
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Originally posted by Knick
I don't think that's how empathy works....
Sorry, I should have used sympathy. You can empathize with how someone feels without having sympathy for how they got there.
I don't think that's how empathy works....
Sorry, I should have used sympathy. You can empathize with how someone feels without having sympathy for how they got there.
Originally posted by n:iceman:16
Let's just end this.
Are these women blameless, yes or no?
Yes, they are blameless. Not taking every precautionary action does not shift blame to you.
If someone hacks into Bill Gates bank accounts, and drains them, is he to blame? Is it his fault for using the bank? He could have chose to not have any money, then it couldn't have happened, right?
Let's just end this.
Are these women blameless, yes or no?
Yes, they are blameless. Not taking every precautionary action does not shift blame to you.
If someone hacks into Bill Gates bank accounts, and drains them, is he to blame? Is it his fault for using the bank? He could have chose to not have any money, then it couldn't have happened, right?
Edited by Corndog on Sep 2, 2014 20:13:59
Time Trial
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Originally posted by Corndog
Yes, they are blameless. Not taking every precautionary action does not shift blame to you.
If someone hacks into Bill Gates bank accounts, and drains them, is he to blame? Is it his fault for using the bank? He could have chose to not have any money, then it couldn't have happened, right?
Seeing as how you admitted to looking at these pics, you are more to blame for this happening than the women are.
People keep making reality TV shows because people keep watching them.
Yes, they are blameless. Not taking every precautionary action does not shift blame to you.
If someone hacks into Bill Gates bank accounts, and drains them, is he to blame? Is it his fault for using the bank? He could have chose to not have any money, then it couldn't have happened, right?
Seeing as how you admitted to looking at these pics, you are more to blame for this happening than the women are.
People keep making reality TV shows because people keep watching them.
Originally posted by Time Trial
Seeing as how you admitted to looking at these pics, you are more to blame for this happening than the women are.
People keep making reality TV shows because people keep watching them.
Except looking at them doesn't equate to ratings.
Posting threads all over the internet celebrating them, and acting like the hackers are heroes is what fuels the fire. Condoning rather than condemning. Following a link to them is doing neither, really.
Seeing as how you admitted to looking at these pics, you are more to blame for this happening than the women are.
People keep making reality TV shows because people keep watching them.
Except looking at them doesn't equate to ratings.
Posting threads all over the internet celebrating them, and acting like the hackers are heroes is what fuels the fire. Condoning rather than condemning. Following a link to them is doing neither, really.
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