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Originally posted by Asheme

also, i didn't get dropped into a cakewalk rookie league. i had the longtime #2 and #5ish rookie teams in my league, and i'm pretty sure we're the only top 10 rookie team who played another top 10 team in the first round of the playoffs (and we have another tough matchup with a rapidly improving top 20 rookie team in the championship).


honored

Originally posted by Asheme

i'm pretty sure we're the only top 10 rookie team who played another top 10 team in the first round of the playoffs


As someone who coaches a non-top 10 rookie team and had to play the #4 overall rookie team, and will be playing for the league championship against the #8 overall rookie team I'm really happy the devs gave me this tiny violin to play for you



p.s. I still want my chocolate chocolate-chunk cookie!

This years rookie is nothing compared to last season with the exception of a couple teams.

Originally posted by bhall43
So you are mad because your division was too competitive but you want more competition. lol

I'm not mad at anything. You and all the other hero's are saying you want to win competitive leagues. So the top 4 teams in the playoffs would seem to be the most competitive to me. Look at it this way:

Alpha Division
1 Blue Mountain State Mountain Goats 8-6-0 (0-3 against Gamma. If in Gamma they would be 5-9-0 most likely)

Gamma Division
1 Portland Ronin 14-0-0
2 Oklahoma Outlaws 11-3-0
3 Legacy 10-4-0 (3-3 against Gamma. Could have been 13-1 in Alpha.)
4 Tampa Bay Belligerent Drunks 7-7-0 (0-6 against Gamma. Could have been 13-1 in Alpha.)

To me this isn't a competitive League. It's a competitive Division.

Originally posted by Parab00n
How can you re-balance something that can change every season? I think the point of the divisions is to develop division rivalries.

I understand developing the rivals. Never re-shuffle and you get a team that might reset because it's too late for them to catch up. Reset and get a shot at a better league might be the best choice.

Originally posted by bdnannac
Gamma Division
1 Portland Ronin 14-0-0
2 Oklahoma Outlaws 11-3-0
3 Legacy 10-4-0 (3-3 against Gamma. Could have been 13-1 in Alpha.)
4 Tampa Bay Belligerent Drunks 7-7-0 (0-6 against Gamma. Could have been 13-1 in Alpha.)

To me this isn't a competitive League. It's a competitive Division.



Lol? Tampa Bay is not a 13-1 team lol.
2. they aren't in alpha. so why bother say what they could have been.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
Lol? Tampa Bay is not a 13-1 team lol.
2. they aren't in alpha. so why bother say what they could have been.

Thems fightin' words...

Originally posted by bdnannac
I'm not mad at anything. You and all the other hero's are saying you want to win competitive leagues. So the top 4 teams in the playoffs would seem to be the most competitive to me.


Yeah, see, that's the thing I don't agree with. What I want is a league where each team has a real chance of losing every game, but where builds and gameplanning matter. And a structure where at the end the team that outperformed wins the league. This doesn't really require that a team that was 3rd in their division but perhaps better than someone who won a different division be in the playoffs.
**Disclaimer: I am a member of Benitos, who was also in Grizzly Gamma, and stuck behind Funday and Zorp. And StP was pretty good too.

Originally posted by bdnannac

Look at it this way:

Alpha Division
1 Blue Mountain State Mountain Goats 8-6-0 (0-3 against Gamma. If in Gamma they would be 5-9-0 most likely)

Gamma Division
1 Portland Ronin 14-0-0
2 Oklahoma Outlaws 11-3-0
3 Legacy 10-4-0 (3-3 against Gamma. Could have been 13-1 in Alpha.)
4 Tampa Bay Belligerent Drunks 7-7-0 (0-6 against Gamma. Could have been 13-1 in Alpha.)

To me this isn't a competitive League. It's a competitive Division.



First off, sounds like Tampa Bay would have been 10-4, since they still would have lost those games against Gamma. Secondly, since no one in the league can beat the Ronin or Oklahoma then I guess it doesn't matter who makes the playoffs because that's who's going to win the title, right?
The playoffs are NOT an award for being a top 4 team in the league. They are a final 3 games to settle who the best team in the league was that season, based on who was best in each division. That's all, nothing else.
Benitos wasn't good enough to win Grizzly in S1. We didn't make the playoffs.
Benitos wasn't good enough to win Cheetah in S2. We lost in the first round of the playoffs.
I reject the notion that the difference in those two outcomes is going to be the difference maker in someone deciding to keep playing or quitting. I'm really tired of hearing that argument that someone's going to reset or quit because of that alone. If you're going to quit when you don't win, you're going to quit regardless of the league structure because you're not the best team in the game - and even the best teams lose.

Also, there's no way to just look at records and determine who the best teams were if you're going to have unbalanced schedules. Grizzly Gamma was in the situation where they might have lost the wild card because all the teams beat up on each other and the 2nd place in Grizzly Alpha would have taken the WC. Zorp had to win all 3 games to pass them, too. So do the other divisions have stronger teams beating each other up or weaker teams getting worse records? That takes human judgement to determine, which means inherently it probably won't be done "fairly".

It's also impossible to create a situation where the best teams are evenly spread out because you don't know who they will be. Demolish the divisions and you'll be back next season pointing out that Wolf league is too hard because it has 5 or 6 teams that are better than the top 4 teams in some other league, and it's "not fair" that you can't be in that league. (**You meaning "whatever team that agrees with this line of thinking and gets stuck in a league with a lot of top teams"). There's no end to "it's not fair". "Fair" is impossible. What we have is quite workable, legit, and enjoyable. Everyone has a chance to win the league if they're good enough.

About the best you can do is just pour all the teams into one big super-league and sort out the best teams from there. Which is called the Ladder, and GLB2 has that, exactly because it's the only way to "be fair".

Originally posted by DeeVee8
Thems fightin' words...

#2 wasn't directly at you, it was @ all of gamma.

lel didn't mean to take shots @ ur squad

Originally posted by NiborRis

I reject the notion that the difference in those two outcomes is going to be the difference maker in someone deciding to keep playing or quitting. I'm really tired of hearing that argument that someone's going to reset or quit because of that alone. If you're going to quit when you don't win, you're going to quit regardless of the league structure because you're not the best team in the game - and even the best teams lose.

Your right NiborRis, 10-4 not 13-1. Well 10-4 is still better than 7-7 no?



Originally posted by Asheme
well, i reset zorp, so i had no choice.

Resetting because you're 'losing' is completely fine in my mind as long as you take what you learned to make better dots, OC/DC better and are fair to your agents.

Originally posted by Adderfist
Resetting because you're 'losing' is completely fine in my mind as long as you take what you learned to make better dots, OC/DC better and are fair to your agents.

resetting > bitching about your division

Originally posted by bdnannac


of what?

are you saying i reset to avoid sunday funday? that's stupid.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
resetting > bitching about your division

lol I'd actually bitch about my division if I had 'afk' games 6 times in my 14 game regular season.

Originally posted by Asheme

of what?

are you saying i reset to avoid sunday funday? that's stupid.

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