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bhall43
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Originally posted by Time Trial
If the O-line are able to read the blitz, there should be an overload on one, single blockers on the others. Sometimes the blitzers will win, sometimes they won't win in time for the single man coveage WRs to get open.

There is a lot of risk in not having any help over the top or over the middle. If your QB is set to throw a long developping route 100% of the time, then you should either be forced to throw early or take the sack. If you blitz everyone and leave no help, you should expect to be beaten some of the time. The fact that the 5WR formation is "the only formation people are throwing out of" right now is because it is a gimmick and there are no good 5CB plays to stop it. You have all the time in the world to throw because there's no valid blitz options that don't also cover the WR. If you blitz up the middle, it is an easy rollout for 10-15 yards. If you blitz from one side only, the QB escapes to the other side for a long scramble. You have to have a formation that either blitzes a safety and has a spy to cover the escape route or you need to blitz from both sides.


It already is to the point where you can get either an easy sack from the outside edges or be destroyed by leaving a man uncovered. 2 of ur defenses do both cover and run the outside blitz from both sides. The unfortunate reason why that sucks is precisely what you mention. The qb drifts from a blitz to the outside. That is why I said I wouldn't mind seeing more blitz+ spy stuff because it wouldn't be qb running for yards and allow you to get a blitz off with coverage.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
It already is to the point where you can get either an easy sack from the outside edges or be destroyed by leaving a man uncovered. 2 of ur defenses do both cover and run the outside blitz from both sides. The unfortunate reason why that sucks is precisely what you mention. The qb drifts from a blitz to the outside. That is why I said I wouldn't mind seeing more blitz+ spy stuff because it wouldn't be qb running for yards and allow you to get a blitz off with coverage.


Which is why I said I was going to design one.
 
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http://tinypic.com/r/219qtd1/8 - SS Blitz FS Under Zone
http://tinypic.com/r/33a5f05/8 - Strong Blitz FS Spy
http://tinypic.com/r/1178tip/8 - Weak Blitz SS Spy
 
Jampy2.0
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http://tinypic.com/r/2afl8v9/8 - SG 2HB QB Rollout Rush
 
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Ya that's more interesting imo. Not as end all as I believe the double outside stuff would be but also provides sufficient pressure and coverage. Next stop someone makes power wr work and wr screen destroys us all amirite?!
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Ya that's more interesting imo. Not as end all as I believe the double outside stuff would be but also provides sufficient pressure and coverage. Next stop someone makes power wr work and wr screen destroys us all amirite?!


So long as Bort never fixes screens, I think we are okay.
 
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
http://tinypic.com/r/2afl8v9/8 - SG 2HB QB Rollout Rush


Could make one hb a fb so dynamic doesn't get thrown off if need be. I'd make a ton of plays o and d if need be for ya Corndog.
 
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Though current defenses would fit using 2 wr logic. If you made it 2 wr you could bunch it with pro set defensively as their own thing making DC's happier about defending pro set vs I forms. Or 3 wr defenses could work making the fb second read.
 
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Some Dime options for 5 WR

FS Weak Overload http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeFSweakoverload_zpse8286b4c.png
SS Strong Overload http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeSSstrongoverload_zpsb6f43805.png
FS Blitz MLB Spy http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeFSblitzMLBspy_zps2deb8553.png
SS Blitz MLB Spy http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeSSblitzMLBspy_zpsb6efb0ab.png
 
foofighter24
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Originally posted by bhall43
Some Dime options for 5 WR

FS Weak Overload http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeFSweakoverload_zpse8286b4c.png
SS Strong Overload http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeSSstrongoverload_zpsb6f43805.png
FS Blitz MLB Spy http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeFSblitzMLBspy_zps2deb8553.png
SS Blitz MLB Spy http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/bhall43/dimeSSblitzMLBspy_zpsb6efb0ab.png


HB screens better own those first two, or the game is broken.
 
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Gonna be tough to throw a HB screen with no HB. But you can try.
 
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Originally posted by foofighter24
HB screens better own those first two, or the game is broken.


If you can run a HB screen from a 5 WR set...then yes, the game is broken...
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Gonna be tough to throw a HB screen with no HB. But you can try.


damn, you beat me to it
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
http://tinypic.com/r/219qtd1/8 - SS Blitz FS Under Zone
http://tinypic.com/r/33a5f05/8 - Strong Blitz FS Spy
http://tinypic.com/r/1178tip/8 - Weak Blitz SS Spy

just seeing this interface brings back nightmares.
 
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Originally posted by Asheme

just seeing this interface brings back nightmares.


Hey - I just met you and thiiiis is kurrrrazy - here's GLB1 make plays 4 me maybe.
 
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