Warrior General Games

Originally posted by foofighter24
Plenty of good games have walkthroughs and tutorials...

In fact, GLB is literally the only one I have ever heard of to literally give you no instructions. If Bort stopped doing this and started manufacturing model rockets, I would invest heavily in a company that builds prosthetic hands.

Tutorials are much different from walk through's. Bort with open builds and trying isn't a tutorial at all.

Walk Through's are created for games but not by the developers. Seriously where is the fun in that? Bort creates a defense based on Fire Up SA. Ok generally speaking that seems like a lame idea. But Bort shows you it works well. What happens next? Everyone invests in a full defense of Fire Up SA. I am not looking for a game of follow the leader. Lord knows that already exists heavily in GLB1, but that's ok because those are just successful things in which we don't truly understand in a way that Bort may (or may not).

Originally posted by bhall43
Tutorials are much different from walk through's. Bort with open builds and trying isn't a tutorial at all.

Walk Through's are created for games but not by the developers. Seriously where is the fun in that? Bort creates a defense based on Fire Up SA. Ok generally speaking that seems like a lame idea. But Bort shows you it works well. What happens next? Everyone invests in a full defense of Fire Up SA. I am not looking for a game of follow the leader. Lord knows that already exists heavily in GLB1, but that's ok because those are just successful things in which we don't truly understand in a way that Bort may (or may not).

Again, if you only have one path to the best team, that is a game flaw. If it is not the best way, contrarians will come along and beat all those teams who just blindly follow.

Originally posted by foofighter24
Again, if you only have one path to the best team, that is a game flaw. If it is not the best way, contrarians will come along and beat all those teams who just blindly follow.

If there's not one best path, why does it matter if admin builds are open?

Originally posted by Corndog
Also, people are kidding themselves if they think Bort knows the optimal way to build players.

Just because he programmed the cluster**** of a system doesn't mean he knows the exact day to switch training from intense to light and when to spend points and went to hold them, and what skills to training boost when and how far and all of the other obtuse crap that goes into building "WL caliber" dots.

Right. That is understandable. But understanding the game may lend help in the why people want certain things tested or why they make certain suggestions. Granted I guess that is where Catch22 helped out and now you since his departure.

Originally posted by bhall43
Right. That is understandable. But understanding the game may lend help in the why people want certain things tested or why they make certain suggestions. Granted I guess that is where Catch22 helped out and now you since his departure.

More like DD.

Dude is super stoked about playing GLB2.

Originally posted by Corndog
If there's not one best path, why does it matter if admin builds are open?

We do not know that is the case. Also, I am not an admin fighting to keep my builds closed.

Originally posted by foofighter24
Again, if you only have one path to the best team, that is a game flaw. If it is not the best way, contrarians will come along and beat all those teams who just blindly follow.

It is like you haven't been playing GLB1 for all these seasons or even played this game for all of season 1? Or you just aren't really paying attention? The flaw isn't the game itself. If I felt there was one and only one path to rule them all I wouldn't want Bort playing against me in a league. >_<

Originally posted by Corndog
More like DD.

Dude is super stoked about playing GLB2.

I'm more where I've always been. I want to try weird crap and builds and see how it actually works.

I want to make a "high octane" defense that blitzes a bunch of DBs and plays mostly zones, but I'm not sure if I'm going to or not.

Originally posted by Corndog
More like DD.

Dude is super stoked about playing GLB2.

Ya I could see that.

Originally posted by Corndog
I'm more where I've always been. I want to try weird crap and builds and see how it actually works.

I want to make a "high octane" defense that blitzes a bunch of DBs and plays mostly zones, but I'm not sure if I'm going to or not.

Ya I have seen your ways both in GLB1 and on the test server. lol

But 4 realz....theme teams on GLB1 and 2 a couple times a year for funzies. k thx.

Originally posted by bhall43
But 4 realz....theme teams on GLB1 and 2 a couple times a year for funzies. k thx.

Honestly, I have a much better understanding of GLB2 than GLB1 at the moment. GLB1 theme teams would either be ridiculously bad or hilariously stronk.

Originally posted by bhall43
It is like you haven't been playing GLB1 for all these seasons or even played this game for all of season 1? Or you just aren't really paying attention? The flaw isn't the game itself. If I felt there was one and only one path to rule them all I wouldn't want Bort playing against me in a league. >_<

It is too early to judge this game and I am giving it the benefit of the doubt. I have no idea if there are multiple paths or a singular path to success. Literally all I am asking for is admin transparency, mainly because they do have more insight and we do compete with them.

Originally posted by Corndog
Honestly, I have a much better understanding of GLB2 than GLB1 at the moment. GLB1 theme teams would either be ridiculously bad or hilariously stronk.

Hilariously stronk is exactly what I want to play against. I mean within the realm of realistic building of course. Obviously I can't cover 200 speed WR's with 30% fake chance and 10 Juke/Catch Fake/Head Fake.

There's also the aspect where it kind of needs to be tiered.

If it is only pro-tier, then a huge chunk of the game misses out. If there is one for every tier, I need to write code to handle that and then make similar teams for every tier...and that seems like a lot of time for a pet project.

Originally posted by foofighter24
It is too early to judge this game and I am giving it the benefit of the doubt. I have no idea if there are multiple paths or a singular path to success. Literally all I am asking for is admin transparency, mainly because they do have more insight and we do compete with them.

You are missing the point. The point isn't that there is one path and Borts open builds would show it. It would show secrets about the game that Bort knows in a public way that people would just leach off of to make their success. That is what happens in this game. You ask why my teams are successful? It is because I find the most successful plays and use them the most. If I can equate a build to that perfect. All those teams on the top of GLB2 right now? They are doing the same thing. Every successful team in GLB1 that has won WL over the last 30 seasons? Same thing.

Originally posted by Corndog
There's also the aspect where it kind of needs to be tiered.

If it is only pro-tier, then a huge chunk of the game misses out. If there is one for every tier, I need to write code to handle that and then make similar teams for every tier...and that seems like a lot of time for a pet project.

This is another reason why it is more likely to happen in GLB2 rather than the old one.

Estimating player value, especially for every tier, and setting tactics is far less time consuming.