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Edited by LordEvil on Nov 23, 2012 13:59:18
 
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Boosting has an advantage....you have 3 levels. It's not like Bort is handicapping your boosted teams. A talented boosted team shouldn't lose to a talented non-boosted team, unless it's lack of planning or the non-boosted team spends hours and hours planning.

Didn't read what LE said, but if it was anything close to Gerr you care a lot more than you lead on, then I agree. I don't care, I don't play in Gold anymore, but if you want to keep two teams in Gold and boost w/e you want, at least man up and admit you give more shits than everyone else. Because you do.

But gj I guess for winning another watered down Gold.

Jkid I would just make a rookie team and keep boosting on up. Possibly 2-3 rookie teams. 500k flex is crazy, wish you could sell it back.
 
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Originally posted by Jackson55555

Jkid I would just make a rookie team and keep boosting on up. Possibly 2-3 rookie teams. 500k flex is crazy, wish you could sell it back.


I don't want to sell it back. In fact, I'm thinking of buying another hall of fame package.
 
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Well thank you for keeping the lights on around here, you're a good man!
 
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If I had the flex jkid2 does, I would do what TimeTrial did, which is to create a rookie team of all my own players, then take them all the way to the Pro leagues leveling every season. Would be interesting to see how I would do at that level and would be a lot of fun. However, I just don't have the funds to do something like that, so I remain in PW and might venture into the Rookie leagues at some point. I had wanted to do that for S32, but it just didn't work out, so maybe in S33, who knows.

And I know that I did win Gold in what many call a watered down season, so not making a big deal about it. However, every team I played in the playoffs wes a challenge and by no means was this an easy trophy. While I would agree that the regular season is watered down some from what it used to be, there are still some very good teams in the playoffs, so I wouldn't call the playoffs watered down by much, if at all.

And if your def of watered down is full-full vs no-no, back in the day you had to boost/ceq as no-no teams just couldn't hang with full-full teams. However, this is a different sim and no-no teams CAN & DO hang with full-full teams, which is why many teams are no longer going full-full. That doesn't mean PWG is weaker, only that many don't consider the high price of a full-full team as being worth it and they make the choice to be no-no or partial-partial.

Personally, I like that no-no teams can compete at nearly the same level as full-full teams. This allows the top teams to go no-no or partial-partial and still remain competitive, but then allows the new teams in PWG to go full-full and be a little more competitive then they normally would. This helps balance things out a bit more. Just wish there were not so many CPU teams in PWG...
Edited by Gerr on Nov 23, 2012 22:12:05
 
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2 teams in gold, metagamer = Asterik championship
Edited by LordEvil on Nov 23, 2012 23:32:13
 
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come on LE....O_o
 
LordEvil
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Originally posted by 1kwerdna
come on LE....O_o


haha, yeah that was kind of mean eh? I'll simplify it
 
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Originally posted by Gerr
If I had the flex jkid2 does, I would do what TimeTrial did, which is to create a rookie team of all my own players, then take them all the way to the Pro leagues leveling every season. Would be interesting to see how I would do at that level and would be a lot of fun. However, I just don't have the funds to do something like that, so I remain in PW and might venture into the Rookie leagues at some point. I had wanted to do that for S32, but it just didn't work out, so maybe in S33, who knows.

And I know that I did win Gold in what many call a watered down season, so not making a big deal about it. However, every team I played in the playoffs wes a challenge and by no means was this an easy trophy. While I would agree that the regular season is watered down some from what it used to be, there are still some very good teams in the playoffs, so I wouldn't call the playoffs watered down by much, if at all.

And if your def of watered down is full-full vs no-no, back in the day you had to boost/ceq as no-no teams just couldn't hang with full-full teams. However, this is a different sim and no-no teams CAN & DO hang with full-full teams, which is why many teams are no longer going full-full. That doesn't mean PWG is weaker, only that many don't consider the high price of a full-full team as being worth it and they make the choice to be no-no or partial-partial.

Personally, I like that no-no teams can compete at nearly the same level as full-full teams. This allows the top teams to go no-no or partial-partial and still remain competitive, but then allows the new teams in PWG to go full-full and be a little more competitive then they normally would. This helps balance things out a bit more. Just wish there were not so many CPU teams in PWG...


I seriously doubt any of the 'very good' playoff teams were putting in even 1/10 the effort teams back in season 15-20 were putting in. No mccollums, no Dony, no RK, LE was in it but I doubt he put in as much effort as he used to. There isn't close to the talent there once was. That = watered down. Stop grasping for straws.

A yes/yes team should NOT lose to a no/no team. There isn't some magical balance given to the no/no team come playoffs. If you have 3 levels + CEQ on a team and you lose, you're doing something, simple as that. You can't argue against higher stats. You can, however, argue against game planning. The no/no team just put more effort in. When I had my no/no team, I put more effort in than the yes/yes teams I beat.

Every team that won after Stoner quit deserves an * .
 
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Originally posted by Jackson55555


Every team that won after Stoner quit deserves an * .


no..absurd.

anyways any of you who care about peewee should start pushing for gold to be taken away-- there's not enough good teams for it. although the game has gotten worse as a whole as well, it's a fact that peewee has been declining since they first implemented the present day promotion system. 4 regular leagues should do it; if there's not enough space they should have a waitlist.
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
2 teams in gold, metagamer = Asterik championship


You say metagamer with a negative connotation as if that's not what we all used to be. The fact that it's frowned upon to try really hard nowadays is part of the reason this game is horrible. I haven't followed the league as much recently but it seems like Gerr is just the only one that still loves the game like we all used to
Edited by 1kwerdna on Nov 24, 2012 11:46:21
 
LordEvil
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Originally posted by 1kwerdna
You say metagamer with a negative connotation as if that's not what we all used to be. The fact that it's frowned upon to try really hard nowadays is part of the reason this game is horrible. I haven't followed the league as much recently but it seems like Gerr is just the only one that still loves the game like we all used to


There is a difference from old way and new way

Old way the good old days. If you played 50 games on one team you worked your ass off. You couldn't have two teams in the same league and getting a 2nd team was unheard of. Back then it was more like real football. You had at least 25 really good teams. You had to scout and watch games played by your opponent for hours. You put together a game plan you would think fits your teams builds and is capable of winning the game.

Now in todays (gerrs world) game
he has two teams that have equal rosters. Both teams had boosted players. Both teams played many gold teams to see how they would play him. He played 149 games this past season with his teams, you think that's an advantage? I'd say so. Both teams played the same teams in the pee wee tourney. This is the very thing he cried about many seasons ago yet he is running the same cheat the last 6 seasons or so. Now he can set up his other team to mimic the team he is playing and set up 10 scrimmages (Practices) and find holes. This is metagaming ( a nice way to say he is cheating the system) He is going to do the same shit this season as now he says he can't take AZ out of Gold.

At least back when "we loved the game" you played straight up. Best builds, tactics, Ais and scouting won the game. Now it's come to own two teams, play the same teams enough and find their weaknesses using any exploits in the game itself, it's not football, it's metagaming. Not that he cares but doing what he does loses the credentials of being a top coordinator in this game, just means he has the means to cheat and does each and every season with AZ and Chicago to gain an edge. I've seen his builds and tactics, nothing special about it, just play enough vs the same team and eventually when it counts you have enough info to beat them.

 
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Originally posted by 1kwerdna
no..absurd.

................................ they should have a waitlist.


I remember those days...................
 
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I see your point LE... all that matters though is whether or not you guys care enough to fix this shithole or not
 
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Originally posted by dreven
I remember those days...................


Yep. this shit just used to be so much fun
 
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