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whatje
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Originally posted by Phil Jackson
What's your major dude?

Economics

Oh I bet you reading a lot of Gordon Wood ha. You read your Gordon Wood and you regurgitate it from the textbook and you think your wicked awesome doing that, and how bout dem apples and all that Gordon Wood business.


qfawesomeuseofwickedawesome
 
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Originally posted by whatje
a lot of people thought eric crouch was awesome, too. that's why you play the game

Crouch was awesome in college.

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however it clearly doesn't do a very good job of incorporating non-BCS conference teams when they are actually very good.

This is the opposite of reality. The BCS is the only reason those teams are involved at all.
 
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Lets not bring Crouch into this if we can
 
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Originally posted by Husker2
Lets not bring Crouch into this if we can


sorry lol

Originally posted by jdbolick

This is the opposite of reality. The BCS is the only reason those teams are involved at all.


wat?
 
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People whine about utah/tcu/bsu all the time for not getting a shot but the only team to get truly screwed by the BCS was Auburn back in 03 or 04 when they went undefeated and won the SEC but missed out on the national championship. Was probably the worst BCS season ever
 
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Originally posted by kadafitcd
You're both proving my point. It's all about the money and only some about the play on the field. All I'm saying is that it's BS that small schools don't get the chance to play big schools.



They do get a chance to play big schools--its called "the regular season". But college football is so corrupt and so poorly structured that there's not one single reason in the world why a big school would even want to schedule a small school that's put together a decent program. There's no playoff in place, so the "risk" to the equation is that if you LOSE to that small school, your season is over. The "reward" to scheduling them is...pretty much nothing--you're a BIG school, you're "supposed" to beat the smaller ones.

A playoff is the only way that college football will ever have a meaningful month of December. Thing about that--today is the December 6th, and the NEXT MEANINGFUL college football game will take place OVER 30 DAYS FROM NOW. That's flat-out ridiculous, and a blown-opportunity that takes place year after year after year.
Edited by Larry Roadgrader on Dec 6, 2010 17:16:23
 
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A lot of it has to do with money as well.

Boise tried to schedule a home/home with us, but they couldn't pay us enough to travel out there. I think we tried to do with just one game in Lincoln or two games both being in Lincoln but Boise wasn't up for that. Every school has costs that they have to cover.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Crouch was awesome in college.


Really fucking awesome
 
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Originally posted by whatje
wat?

TCU is playing in the Rose Bowl.


Originally posted by chronoaug
People whine about utah/tcu/bsu all the time for not getting a shot but the only team to get truly screwed by the BCS was Auburn back in 03 or 04 when they went undefeated and won the SEC but missed out on the national championship. Was probably the worst BCS season ever

That season Auburn played Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, and the Citadel as their non-conference schedule. In retrospect it would have been better for them to face USC, but at the time it was difficult to make a case that they deserved it more than Oklahoma. Not only did the Sooners play a tougher schedule, but they had a Heisman-winning quarterback and Adrian Peterson.


Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
They do get a chance to play big schools--its called "the regular season". But college football is so corrupt and so poorly structured that there's not one single reason in the world why a big school wouldn want to schedule a small school that's put together a decent program.

Actually TCU has no problems scheduling legitimate non-conference opponents. It's Boise State that bitches out by insisting on home-and-home series (which huge schools would never agree to), then claiming no one will schedule them.

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There's no playoff in place, so the "risk" to the equation is that if you LOSE to that small school, your season is over. The "reward" to scheduling them is...pretty much nothing--you're a BIG school, you're "supposed" to beat the smaller ones.

Actually the opposite is true. If a playoff simply includes the top 8, 12, or 16 ranked schools then they would have no reason to schedule anyone of any substantive difficulty. It's precisely the BCS that gets teams to play tough match-ups because they need to distinguish themselves from other undefeated or 1 loss teams. That's a lesson they learned from Auburn in 2004.

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A playoff is the only way that college football will ever have a meaningful month of December.

What an absurd thing to say.

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Thing about that--today is the December 6th, and the NEXT MEANINGFUL college football game will take place OVER 30 DAYS FROM NOW. That's flat-out ridiculous, and a blown-opportunity that takes place year after year after year.

I think you forget that these are college kids, not professionals. You really want them spending their entire winter break at the school while the rest of the student body visits their families?
 
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Originally posted by kadafitcd
All I'm really pissed about is why the hell did the BCS put BSU vs. Utah.


And that's why you're sounding idiotic, because the BCS has nothing to do with what bowl game Boise State plays this season - except that they said they're not playing in the 5 bowl games that the BCS determines.
Boise State gets a shitty bowl because they have a shitty conference with shitty bowl alignments, not because the BCS said "let's make sure Boise State plays shit teams each year". If it weren't for the BCS, Boise State would still be playing in the Humanitarian bowl each season, probably.

The NCAA doesn't control the bowls; they have some guidelines for the requirements on the bowls but that's about it. The bowls get agreements from each conference.
So blame the Big 12, the Big Ten, the SEC, the Pac-10, etc for not scheduling a premier bowl game with the WAC. Or more properly blame the WAC for having a shitty football conference that can't get enough fans together to make it worth one of the major conference's while to schedule them.
Hell the only reason they get to go to the Las Vegas bowl is that the Pac 10 sucked so bad it didn't have 5 bowl eligible teams. Otherwise they'd probably be in the Humanitarian Bowl again.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader


A playoff is the only way that college football will ever have a meaningful month of December.

What an absurd thing to say.




Its simply a fact. NOTHING that involves college football between last Saturday night and the 10th OF FREAKIN' JANUARY matters--nothing. Any "games" that take place between now and then are merely glorified scrimmages. They're "watchable" in the sense of "Gee, if the NFL isn't on, and my local NBA team isn't on, and there isn't a decent concert on any of the other channels, I may watch this charade-of-a-bowl game..." but nobody gets geared up to watch the also-rans pretend to play football for the rest of December.

Edited by Larry Roadgrader on Dec 6, 2010 17:32:57
 
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this is like watching midget boxing but there's only one midget.
 
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BSU being the midget
 
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Originally posted by whatje
this is like watching midget boxing but there's only one midget.


Originally posted by whatje
BSU being the midget


i thought you were talking about eric crouch again
 
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Originally posted by Husker2
Originally posted by whatje

this is like watching midget boxing but there's only one midget.


Originally posted by whatje

BSU being the midget


i thought you were talking about eric crouch again


Zing!
 
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