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Originally posted by BP
ITS does...cuz if you don't play in WL, you don't count. Which is good news for KAI, because it means that their 14 or whatever fails at a Pro league title don't really count as fails because it wasn't WL. That's also why it's ok for every league but that one to have horrible competition, cuz it's just a preamble to the ONLY important league at GLB. If you don't make it that far it's because you need to build better dots or make friends with more important people...


Lol, good dots > friendships.. If your dot is good enough or even comprable to a philjackson dot- gtfo Phil, plz make great dots - there isn't enough of them
 
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Originally posted by BP
ITS does...cuz if you don't play in WL, you don't count. Which is good news for KAI, because it means that their 14 or whatever fails at a Pro league title don't really count as fails because it wasn't WL. That's also why it's ok for every league but that one to have horrible competition, cuz it's just a preamble to the ONLY important league at GLB. If you don't make it that far it's because you need to build better dots or make friends with more important people...


I would give Pro some credit (but about 3/4ths of Pro teams are not good). Anything under Pro isn't worth mentioning.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1263852&pbp_id=7615827 <--------- Thats a RB.

And to your final point.....if your dot is good it will be in the WL. Kai does not discriminate....talent wins, not friendship.
Edited by ImTheScientist on Jun 16, 2010 15:55:02
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
I would give Pro some credit (but about 3/4ths of Pro teams are not good). Anything under Pro isn't worth mentioning.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1263852&pbp_id=7615827 <--------- Thats a RB.

And to your final point.....if your dot is good it will be in the WL. Kai does not discriminate....talent wins, not friendship.


So, your dots weren't good before this season? that's cool....we agree on something at least.

When CoP is ready and of comparable age to Kai....expect multiple challenges. You can try to contain Rusty, he's only at like 750 career TD's and 30K yards in 7+ seasons..but it wasn't WL, so doesn't count.
 
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So, your dots weren't good before this season? that's cool....we agree on something at least.

When CoP is ready and of comparable age to Kai....expect multiple challenges. You can try to contain Rusty, he's only at like 750 career TD's and 30K yards in 7+ seasons..but it wasn't WL, so doesn't count.


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ETA: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1420018
His effective lvl is way to low, and he will never be a WL player. Sorry, but Im just being honest.
Edited by ImTheScientist on Jun 16, 2010 16:43:16
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
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sorry...your first 14 season of futility are worth 1/4 mentioning....unless you count YOURSELVES as one of the bad teams in which case you some kind of fractional bonus there.

So are we allowed to take 75% of the posts you have ever done before you entered WL and just erase them from existence? lol.
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
I would give Pro some credit (but about 3/4ths of Pro teams are not good). Anything under Pro isn't worth mentioning.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1263852&pbp_id=7615827 <--------- Thats a RB.

And to your final point.....if your dot is good it will be in the WL. Kai does not discriminate....talent wins, not friendship.


Thats a bad Defense.
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
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ETA: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1420018
His effective lvl is way to low, and he will never be a WL player. Sorry, but Im just being honest.


Dude, you know...you've been saying that for like 5 seasons...he sucks, effective level too low...you realize this math right?


Player A

Speed - 95 (natural)
Strength - 70 (natural)

Player B

Speed 92 (natural)
Strength 76 (natural)

Player A has 3% more speed and is +2 Effective level
Player B has 9% more strength and is a lower effective level.

You tell me which player is better relatively to his competition the guy who goes from 35 to 36.05 on the speed script because of his + to his speed...or the guy who has 10% more strength.

Not saying Harlem isn't good, shit..I a now prepared to say KAI is good...but amazing how many people lose sight of the actual math behind things. The difference in your highest attribute vs. another players is almost ALL of what effective level is about. If you have generated multiple advantages in other areas, you can still dominate without your highest natural being 95.

Showing effective level was HORRIBLE for agents, now it's just a drive to see who can pump up their first attribute the highest...that isn't always the way to go.

And you are welcome for the math lesson.
 
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Originally posted by BP
Dude, you know...you've been saying that for like 5 seasons...he sucks, effective level too low...you realize this math right?


Player A

Speed - 95 (natural)
Strength - 70 (natural)

Player B

Speed 92 (natural)
Strength 76 (natural)

Player A has 3% more speed and is +2 Effective level
Player B has 9% more strength and is a lower effective level.

You tell me which player is better relatively to his competition the guy who goes from 35 to 36.05 on the speed script because of his + to his speed...or the guy who has 10% more strength.

Not saying Harlem isn't good, shit..I a now prepared to say KAI is good...but amazing how many people lose sight of the actual math behind things. The difference in your highest attribute vs. another players is almost ALL of what effective level is about. If you have generated multiple advantages in other areas, you can still dominate without your highest natural being 95.

Showing effective level was HORRIBLE for agents, now it's just a drive to see who can pump up their first attribute the highest...that isn't always the way to go.

And you are welcome for the math lesson.


Effective level tells me if you built your player to allow him to maximize his abilities later in his career. Lets run through an exercise. Look at all the WL running backs and show me one that has a lower effective level than actual lvl. Why do you think the teams that have the highest effective lvl in Pro/WL are the ones that typically do best?

Fwiw, I would take player A. I don't need math lessons....there is a reason the kai is in first in the WL.
Edited by ImTheScientist on Jun 16, 2010 17:07:59
 
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Effective level means you pushed your first ability to the 6th/7th cap super early and your ALG's took over and every time your ALG's level you up it's worth 10 SP's...that's all it tells you.

No, there are no HB's in WL with a lower effective level then actual level..and rusty won't be for long....the way I've set it up he's catching up due to multiple things being high capped (instead of one thing being ubercapped). He was 4 down when effective level first came out, 2 down last season, 1 down this season....soon he''ll be +.

I can show you around 10K players that have + effective level that suck, so that measure is no argument. The true argument is in the production...bottom line. It's about the build and where it ends up, not having speed at natural 97 and 32 stamina. Look at the record, the production...it all speaks for itself and will continue to.
 
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Originally posted by BP
Effective level means you pushed your first ability to the 6th/7th cap super early and your ALG's took over and every time your ALG's level you up it's worth 10 SP's...that's all it tells you.

No, there are no HB's in WL with a lower effective level then actual level..and rusty won't be for long....the way I've set it up he's catching up due to multiple things being high capped (instead of one thing being ubercapped). He was 4 down when effective level first came out, 2 down last season, 1 down this season....soon he''ll be +.

I can show you around 10K players that have + effective level that suck, so that measure is no argument. The true argument is in the production...bottom line. It's about the build and where it ends up, not having speed at natural 97 and 32 stamina. Look at the record, the production...it all speaks for itself and will continue to.


Those 10K are not elite. So who cares about them. You obviously don't understand and are clearly underestimating WL builds. Your statement "It's about the build and where it ends up" is contradictory to your building method. At your lvl you should be WAY above that effective lvl bar. That tells me you more than likely pissed away your SP on SA's and building wrong in general.

Look at both our TE's for example. What do you notice? I would have never started in on this with you if you hadn't proclaimed your 55/54 AA RB the GOAT.
 
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If you don't want to believe me post your player "pickle" in the WL forums and see what they say. Maybe Im being bias in some way.
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
If you don't want to believe me post your player "pickle" in the WL forums and see what they say. Maybe Im being bias in some way.


You are baised...but it's cool.

I don't underestimate WL builds in the slightest...I saw Alloy's like everybody elses, and those were the best of the best..yeah?

Tell you what, when Rusty is the same age as the Kai roster...we'll battle it out and you'll see what I'm saying.
 
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and he is the GOAT. There has never been a lvl 55 RB that has accomplished as much as he has up to this point...there is no disputing that point....if he can continue it over the next 4 seasons or so of his lifetime, he will go down as the GOAT..sorry to break that to you.
 
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and he is the GOAT. There has never been a lvl 55 RB that has accomplished as much as he has up to this point...there is no disputing that point....if he can continue it over the next 4 seasons or so of his lifetime, he will go down as the GOAT..sorry to break that to you.


Your definition of "accomplish" is different then mine.
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Your definition of "accomplish" is different then mine.


yours - lose for 14 seasons, win 1..call yourselves good
mine - build dots that dominate and win multiple championships

BP = Websters
ITS = Urbandictionary.com


don't worry man, I'll explain it all to you one day.....3 people at GLB have seen Rusty's build. On the day I retire him I'm going to open it up just for you for 5 minutes so you can see.

Go ahead, say you don't want to see it..blah blah blah



Anyway, officially done with this thread. When rusty rips up Pro next season as a lvl 59 RB I'll let you know.
 
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