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i didn't link a forum did i? i thought i just linked a play that was an example of what was being discussed.

flat out, like i said before i don't give a damn. i don't have time to try and find the exploits in this game or go and comb the forums looking for them either. you guys a have play that kicked our ass. if its an exploit, whatever i don't really care. if there is an exploit in the AI i'm running then its something that we lucked across and since i have no idea what it is, at some point i'll probably accidentally take it out of the AI to defend against another team.

seriously, your an undefeated team, i didn't expect to win. good stuff. u kicked our ass.

Originally posted by that1guy
i didn't link a forum did i?

You're right. You didn't link it.

Originally posted by Gunner65
Just run the almighty MLB exploit that some teams are running ... it seems like that is the current fad that teams are resorting to when they feel like they cant beat an opponent straight up. Sad? Yes ... True? also yes ....

We wont use it on the Predators ... so for you teams that are using it ... enjoy your cheap victories

And if you are curious as to what this is all about ... here is the bug report with dozens of examples: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3199557

Then I posted this play: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=733875&pbp_id=10564192 because I when I clicked on the first play in the thread ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=712918&pbp_id=7987552 ) I thought it looked eerily familiar to the sack you guys got against us.

Then you posted this:

Originally posted by that1guy
that's not the exploit. i just set that play up to look like an overload blitz strong side and instead blitz the weak side LB. the exploit basically lines the MLB up on the d line NT between the C and RG with the LE between the RT and TE, which leaves the MLB completely free to just charge through. if the o line was able to recognize the extra guy on the line and adjust it wouldn't be such a big deal but since they can't, the formation becomes an exploit.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=733875&pbp_id=10555325

Which made me realize that we were the team you guys were talking about.

Then this was posted:

Originally posted by Gunner65
As for the exploit at hand ... that isnt the exploit I am talking about ... I posted the wrong thread link ...

And I got confused as to who posted what.

And that's the only thread I can find in the bugs forum about LBs not being blocked.

It seems to me you guys are being very hypocritical. And I now realize he claimed to post the wrong thread link, so as to not seem like a hypocrite, running one of those plays while blasting us for doing it.

Even if it is an exploit, that would make you even worse than a hypocrite. You would be running those plays knowing that you, and some ofthers I guess, consider them exploits, while we're just running the same plays we've been using for two seasons.

Wow, you are still going on about this? Let it go dude ... either your aren't going to own up to it or you refuse to see the obvious ... so why bother? Calling me a hypocrite won't change the fact ... and if you want to find it in the bug forum, try going back to the middle of last season's posts in the Bug Forum ... that is about the time I found out about it ... It was a locked thread that said GLB has it noted and was investigating it ... like a lot of things on this Beta game ... pretty FG posts & fat sidelines are more important then fixing issues with game play

I don't think it's right to automatically assume or accuse GMs about using exploits in this game. If a certain play is working well coordinators are going to use it more and more. I spent many, many hours a day on GLB's site and don't check for all the bugs in the bugs forum for weeks on end. This game does take tons of time if you want your team to be good. Most users (GMs) are too busy trying to look at tape and develop a gameplan for the next opponent than to read all the posts in the bugs forum or any other forum.
We at Swaiziland used the Mentor VA before they noticed a bug in it, and were wondering why our OTs were getting so many Pancakes, and finally when Bort announced there was a bug and corrected it, we realized that that's why they were getting so many Pancakes. I think that it's ultimately the testers (or Bort's) fault for this game's bugs and exploits, not the users. However, this game is still technically in Beta so there's going to be alot of oversights before things get corrected. There ultimately needs to be more testing before this game comes out with new twists, but Bort seems anxious or pressured to come out with the new updates to this game before it is really ready to go live.

i wasn't aware that this was an exploit but i definately believe that blocking assignments suck in GLB. it's been like this since the DPC was released in season 9 with the OGs guilty of thumb twiddling. QPR did use the MLB blitz as described way back when and it shuts down the running game effectively. it is a type of 5-3 or 4-4 in our case. but by bringing up that bug thread i have to agree that lining up the MB on the line is quite an exploit!! (as it stands)

i'm not sure we used it this season though - i honestly haven't watched much outside the opponents D

man on man blocking is broken imo and GLB needs to consider implementing Zone Blocking to neutralise the current facade, which means vision will mean something for the OL. we're going through the pre-Denver

something like having the option to instruct who should go where will enhance the OC's job - i mean a good OC. we need something to compete with the DPC imo. as things stands defenses have the freedom to choose which gaps to shoot whilst offense can't choose who to block and where.

** EDIT - i should add that implementing this will open up a whole new can of worms with DCos' calling foul lol

Jesus some people are whiners. Our team dominated yours in basically every aspect of the game and you are going to call out a couple plays that you think are "exploits"? How do you explain our defense pretty much totally dominating your passing game? Was that an exploit? How about our backs running for 185 yards? Exploit also?

Like Zito said we have been running that play since last season, are we supposed to change our whole defense around because of some supposed exploit? Also don't you think it would be smart to maybe game plan against that play instead of running straight into it?

Originally posted by biggregzeg
I don't think it's right to automatically assume or accuse GMs about using exploits in this game. If a certain play is working well coordinators are going to use it more and more. I spent many, many hours a day on GLB's site and don't check for all the bugs in the bugs forum for weeks on end. This game does take tons of time if you want your team to be good. Most users (GMs) are too busy trying to look at tape and develop a gameplan for the next opponent than to read all the posts in the bugs forum or any other forum.
We at Swaiziland used the Mentor VA before they noticed a bug in it, and were wondering why our OTs were getting so many Pancakes, and finally when Bort announced there was a bug and corrected it, we realized that that's why they were getting so many Pancakes. I think that it's ultimately the testers (or Bort's) fault for this game's bugs and exploits, not the users. However, this game is still technically in Beta so there's going to be alot of oversights before things get corrected. There ultimately needs to be more testing before this game comes out with new twists, but Bort seems anxious or pressured to come out with the new updates to this game before it is really ready to go live.

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Originally posted by cannons call
Jesus some people are whiners. Our team dominated yours in basically every aspect of the game and you are going to call out a couple plays that you think are "exploits"? How do you explain our defense pretty much totally dominating your passing game? Was that an exploit? How about our backs running for 185 yards? Exploit also?

Like Zito said we have been running that play since last season, are we supposed to change our whole defense around because of some supposed exploit? Also don't you think it would be smart to maybe game plan against that play instead of running straight into it?



This is the last time I am going to address this - you guys can go on all you want and defend it and use it ... I don't care ... if you didnt know it was an exploit ... you do now ... but really ... is that going to stop you from using it? We both know the answer to that.

Your entire defense is predicated on this formation ... I just tallied up the first half defensive plays for your team 19 of 25 plays you guys ran that formation ... giving your MLB a free run into our backfield unblocked. That 76% of your defensive formations.

So your assertion that it's "just" a couple of plays is a farce.So get a clue bro .. it is FAR from a couple of plays ... it is the very back bone of your defense. With out it, your production goes down with it. Want proof? Take it out of your game plan and watch

Originally posted by Gunner65
This is the last time I am going to address this - you guys can go on all you want and defend it and use it ... I don't care ... if you didnt know it was an exploit ... you do now ... but really ... is that going to stop you from using it? We both know the answer to that.

Your entire defense is predicated on this formation ... I just tallied up the first half defensive plays for your team 19 of 25 plays you guys ran that formation ... giving your MLB a free run into our backfield unblocked. That 76% of your defensive formations.

So your assertion that it's "just" a couple of plays is a farce.So get a clue bro .. it is FAR from a couple of plays ... it is the very back bone of your defense. With out it, your production goes down with it. Want proof? Take it out of your game plan and watch

Other teams have scored 35 points, 27 points and 17 points against us, but now that your team basically gets shutout it's because of an exploit? I find it funny that you guys seemed the only ones who actually knew of this exploit yet you still designed an offensive game plan that basically ran right into it. Do you really think that play can't be counteracted?

I almost forgot about responding to this after I read through the couple pages of garbage (but at least there is action in the league forum anyways...)

Originally posted by Mango Fandango
congrats Wasps!

this season is really hurting with 4 defeats in games where we lost within 6 points. sheer frustration. GL with the rest of the season

Great game. You guys have a great offense and I am glad to have come out with the victory. Good luck with the rest of your season too!

Holy crap this discussion is still going on?

U guys beat us, I don't freakin care how. We lost. Big flippin whoop. Whatever. Jeez. Seriously, ur defense is sound. U stuffed the run and against a RB like PHM that's not an easything to do. Congrats. Ur dots played a good game and the coordinators did their jobs.

Can we leave this shit alone now?

Originally posted by Gunner65
This is the last time I am going to address this - you guys can go on all you want and defend it and use it ... I don't care ... if you didnt know it was an exploit ... you do now ... but really ... is that going to stop you from using it? We both know the answer to that.

Your entire defense is predicated on this formation ... I just tallied up the first half defensive plays for your team 19 of 25 plays you guys ran that formation ... giving your MLB a free run into our backfield unblocked. That 76% of your defensive formations.

So your assertion that it's "just" a couple of plays is a farce.So get a clue bro .. it is FAR from a couple of plays ... it is the very back bone of your defense. With out it, your production goes down with it. Want proof? Take it out of your game plan and watch

Hey Gunner, choke on a cock til you drown in man juice.

P.S. Good Game.

Originally posted by Sulfadias
Hey Gunner, choke on a cock til you drown in man juice.

P.S. Good Game.




I'll pass ... if I were to do that, I'd interfere with your day job ... walking up and slapping your customer's cock out of your mouth just isn't on my bucket list

GG Roosters. I thought you guys were going to put a hurting on us. Just happy to get a win and move on. Good luck the rest of the way.

GG MaRAWK!! o. After the first half, thought we might pull off the upset.