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Ballinbob
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Originally posted by Redass Ranch
So the question becomes is Tebow, Steve Young or Michael Vick?


Judging by their stats and criminal record I would say he's more like Steve Young.

 
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OJ was a great, mild mannered collegiate, too.
 
Ballinbob
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Originally posted by dook1e
OJ was a great, mild mannered collegiate, too.


LOL. I doubt Tebow will turn into OJ Simpson after college. OJ was a gang member and spent time in a San Fran Youth Guidance Center, before high school. Tebow spent time on missions.
 
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Racist.
 
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Edited by Ballinbob on May 17, 2009 16:11:54
 
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so am i, i got banned for saying /\/166/\
 
Porch
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Originally posted by Ballinbob
You're an absolute douche bag. Can you not factor in Tebow's rushing yards and tds into your thick headed equation? After college he could have the 2nd most passing TDs in the SEC and the most rushing TDs. He will have done this in only 3 years of starting. Let's break down the 3 QBs on their championship runs. Leinart had a QB rating of 156.54 going 269/412 for 3322 passing yards with 33 TDs and 6 INTs and -44 rushing yards with 3 TDs. That equals 3278 total yards and 36 TDs. Young had a QB rating of 163.95 going 212/325 for 3036 passing yards with 26 TDs and 10 INTs and 1050 rushing yards with 12 TDs. That's 4086 total yards and 38 TDs. Tebow had a QB rating of 172.37 going 192/298 for 2746 yards with 30 TDs and 4 INTs and had 673 rushing yards with 12 TDs. That's 3419 total yards and 42 TDs. So Tebow had a better QB rating than both Leinart and Young. Tebow also had more TDs. Tebow accounted for more yards than Leinart, but not Young. Tebow had less turnovers than either one of them. He was also much more efficient than either of the them. Tebow was just as big of a factor, if not bigger, than Leinart or Young. Check your facts next time and own up that Tebow is one of the greatest college players ever!!



Well at least you are down to one of the greatest and backing away from possibly the greatest. If you continue on this pace you may recover from the myopia in a year or two.

So let's check your numbers. If you take into account the total yards gained for the team and divde by what each player got then Teabag had 54.8%, Leinart 56.1% and Young 61.3% of their team's offense. In short they did both contribute more to their teams.

What is even more shocking Leinart and Young both played just 12 games compared to Teabag's 14. You think that might effect the yardage totals.

Let's look at average yards per game. Teabag 244 yds/game (seems pretty ordinary), Leinart 273 yds/game (oh no, more than Teabag), Young 340 yds/game.

Teabag is just a poor man's Vince Young. Young bitch slaps Teabag in just about every statistical category you can imagine.

How about Bradford this past year. 61.5% of his team's offense and averaged 337 yards per game.

Add in Alex Smith who had better numbers in 12 games averaging 298 yards/game.

My god Teabag may be the 5th best QB of his era and you want to convince people he may be one of the best ever. So tell me homer how the numbers are wrong.

So Teabag may just be the 5th best QB since Y2K and you want to crown among the best ever. No bias there kiddo.
Edited by Porch on May 17, 2009 21:41:55
 
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There is no arguing with Gator fans. Living in Jacksonville I can attest to that.

I understand though.. I mean the Gators were the joke of the SEC for 80 years before Steve Spurrier so they are enjoying their time in the sun.

Tebow has horrible mechanics, throws off his back foot all the time, doesn't have the arm strength to make the laser throws necessary at the NFL level (not talking about down the field throws.. anyone can do that if they put enough air under it), and let's face it.. is just a really dumb guy. I worked in Ponte Vedra when he was going to Nease (for one class - weight training.. since the vag was home-schooled) and met him, his parents and a crapload of people he was going to school with.. after talking to him I realized just how dumb that guy is. I mean he is seriously a very stupid person.. that's probably why he can't make reads on the field. Almost every throw is pre-determined.

Also, OF COURSE the Gator QB coach is going to say that garbage. What else is he going to say exactly? Tebow blows.. he'll never make it in the NFL. ALL QB coaches say that crap.. doesn't make it true.

But the guy the Gators have waiting to play behind Tebow is already, out of HS, a much better passer than Tebow will ever be. Isn't that funny.
 
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Well time to correct you again on your stats. Young and Leinart both played 13 games, not 12. Shall I show you how to count too? This would knock their percentages and avg's down a little bit, but not enough to change the standings, so you actually got that kind of correct!! Yaaa congrats you finally got one semi-right!!! Can you not take into consideration that Tebow accounted for more TDs than either of the people???? He was also more efficient, had a higher qb rating, and had less turnovers!!!! Now let's figure this out real quick. If you score more, turn the ball over less, and are more efficient, of course you won't rack up as many yards. Tebow gets the job done better than either of them, thus he had less chances to rack up the yards they did. Do you understand or should I try to break it down for dummies like yourself? Tebow has a higher QB rating than either of them. That shows he is a more effective QB. So what if they accounted for more yards?? That's the only thing you can keep throwing at me. Why don't you acknowledge the fact Tebow is a TD machine, more efficient, and a higher rated QB???

The only thing Vince beats Tebow in is total yards. That's hardly bitch slapping Tebow. Where do you come off thinking that yards is every statistical category???? Do you think TDs & turnovers are not part of the game???? Vince threw as many INTs in one season as Tebow has in his whole career. Oh and Tebow has more total career yards than Vince and Matt, so please specify that Vince only lead in yards that one season.

Once again a piss poor effort by you. All you proved is that they accounted for a little bit higher % of their team's yards. You didn't prove anything else. I'll say it again Tebow has more TDs, less turnovers(in more games played, since you like bringing that up), higher qb rating, and is more efficient. I'm not backing off my statement that Tebow is possibly the greatest player ever. Anybody that is considered one of the greatest can also be possibly the greatest. So sorry to disappoint you .

I'll say the possibly the most impressive stat of all. When Tebow finishes his career he will have the most rushing TDs in SEC history and the 2nd most passing TDs!!!!! Holy crap nobody else can even compare to that. He's done it in the toughest conference against the toughest defenses in the country. He will have more rushing TDs than emmitt smith, herschel walker, bo jackson, fred taylor, jamal lewis, terrell davis, shaun alexander, deuce mcalister, ronnie brown, cadillac williams etc. I could name probably another 2 dozen great RBs that he already has or will have more TDs than. Tebow is going to have more passing TDs than every QB except Danny Wuerffel. That's more than he Manning brothers, Cutler, Couch, Russell, Leak, Grossman, Greene, etc. Hopefully you get the point.

Tebow is the only QB in NCAA history to pass for 20 TDs & rush for 20 TDs in a season. He tied the NCAA record for rushing TDs by a QB with 22. Tebow holds SEC records for most total TDs in a season, most rushing TDs in a season, most total yards in a season!!! That's right Tebow holds the record for most yards in a season!!! In 2007, he accounted for 4181 total yards. More than your boyfriends Young and Leinart ever had in one season. Tebow did this in the same amount of games too!!!!!! So much for your theory about Tebow not being able to produce yards.

Read it and weep!!!!!! As you would say, "So tell me homer, how are the numbers wrong?" It's all there in black and white. Please just please try to absorb all this information I'm giving you. I know it might be hard to comprehend this much at once, but I believe in you. Tebow is possibly the best ever!!! You can't argue with facts!!! I'm sure we both are in agreement on at least this.
Edited by Ballinbob on May 18, 2009 06:08:44
 
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Who the fuck are you Brock Sampson? Somebody's multi or just a troll????? GTFO out of here. We aren't even talking about Tebow being an NFL QB. Troll.
Edited by Ballinbob on May 18, 2009 06:23:45
Edited by Ballinbob on May 18, 2009 06:02:15
 
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Originally posted by BrockSampson85

Also, OF COURSE the Gator QB coach is going to say that garbage. What else is he going to say exactly? Tebow blows.. he'll never make it in the NFL. ALL QB coaches say that crap.. doesn't make it true.


All jealous douchebags say crap like that ^^^. Doesn't make it true.

I love being the premier team in college, everyone hates you. Your entire team is always overrated, your entire conference in always overrated, your players are all overrated, your team is a gimmick......hmmmm, what else can I think of? You guys crack me up.

HERE IS THE FACT: Until one of you tool's shitbag team actually beats the Gators or wins a NC then STFU. Right now, the Gators are the best, Tebow is the QB, Tebow is a GREAT college player. Until someone can ACTUALLY prove me wrong with something other than opinions all of your arguments are SHIT!

Now please go back to gang banging, tea bagging and ball washing (stole that one) eachother or whatever it is all of your MCRG guys do during the day.
 
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Hey after 80 years of being pathetic the Gators deserve this short time as "the best".
 
Ballinbob
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You're supposed to be on my side!!!!! LOL. Not really that short of a time, but by no means is it a long standing tradition when compared to the history of other programs like Bama, ND, Michigan, or USC. UF is definitely somewhat of a newcomer when it comes to being one of the best, but that doesn't mean they were pathetic for 80 years. There were several very good teams before Spurrier became coach. Just not any national champions. We've been one of the better teams for roughly 20 years, the worst years being the 3 with Zook @ the helm. Obviously the program has been taken to a new level under Meyer. Currently we are the top program in the country and only USC could compare. But this discussion is starting to get off topic, so enough of that.
Edited by Ballinbob on May 18, 2009 07:26:51
Edited by Ballinbob on May 18, 2009 07:16:07
 
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Man, that Danny Wuerfful guy sure turned into an awesome Pro.
 
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Originally posted by Ballinbob
Well time to correct you again on your stats. Young and Leinart both played 13 games, not 12. Shall I show you how to count too? This would knock their percentages and avg's down a little bit, but not enough to change the standings, so you actually got that kind of correct!! Yaaa congrats you finally got one semi-right!!! Can you not take into consideration that Tebow accounted for more TDs than either of the people???? He was also more efficient, had a higher qb rating, and had less turnovers!!!! Now let's figure this out real quick. If you score more, turn the ball over less, and are more efficient, of course you won't rack up as many yards. Tebow gets the job done better than either of them, thus he had less chances to rack up the yards they did. Do you understand or should I try to break it down for dummies like yourself? Tebow has a higher QB rating than either of them. That shows he is a more effective QB. So what if they accounted for more yards?? That's the only thing you can keep throwing at me. Why don't you acknowledge the fact Tebow is a TD machine, more efficient, and a higher rated QB???

The only thing Vince beats Tebow in is total yards. That's hardly bitch slapping Tebow. Where do you come off thinking that yards is every statistical category???? Do you think TDs & turnovers are not part of the game???? Vince threw as many INTs in one season as Tebow has in his whole career. Oh and Tebow has more total career yards than Vince and Matt, so please specify that Vince only lead in yards that one season.

Once again a piss poor effort by you. All you proved is that they accounted for a little bit higher % of their team's yards. You didn't prove anything else. I'll say it again Tebow has more TDs, less turnovers(in more games played, since you like bringing that up), higher qb rating, and is more efficient. I'm not backing off my statement that Tebow is possibly the greatest player ever. Anybody that is considered one of the greatest can also be possibly the greatest. So sorry to disappoint you .

I'll say the possibly the most impressive stat of all. When Tebow finishes his career he will have the most rushing TDs in SEC history and the 2nd most passing TDs!!!!! Holy crap nobody else can even compare to that. He's done it in the toughest conference against the toughest defenses in the country. He will have more rushing TDs than emmitt smith, herschel walker, bo jackson, fred taylor, jamal lewis, terrell davis, shaun alexander, deuce mcalister, ronnie brown, cadillac williams etc. I could name probably another 2 dozen great RBs that he already has or will have more TDs than. Tebow is going to have more passing TDs than every QB except Danny Wuerffel. That's more than he Manning brothers, Cutler, Couch, Russell, Leak, Grossman, Greene, etc. Hopefully you get the point.

Tebow is the only QB in NCAA history to pass for 20 TDs & rush for 20 TDs in a season. He tied the NCAA record for rushing TDs by a QB with 22. Tebow holds SEC records for most total TDs in a season, most rushing TDs in a season, most total yards in a season!!! That's right Tebow holds the record for most yards in a season!!! In 2007, he accounted for 4181 total yards. More than your boyfriends Young and Leinart ever had in one season. Tebow did this in the same amount of games too!!!!!! So much for your theory about Tebow not being able to produce yards.

Read it and weep!!!!!! As you would say, "So tell me homer, how are the numbers wrong?" It's all there in black and white. Please just please try to absorb all this information I'm giving you. I know it might be hard to comprehend this much at once, but I believe in you. Tebow is possibly the best ever!!! You can't argue with facts!!! I'm sure we both are in agreement on at least this.



fucking espn.
Edited by Porch on May 18, 2009 08:44:08
 
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