Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by adamcohen1
What day is it probably going to come out? Ballpark.
When it's done
Originally posted by adamcohen1
What day is it probably going to come out? Ballpark.
When it's done
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GSUFan513
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Originally posted by Bort
- If you go inactive for 3 days, you lose your spot on the list and your 500 points are refunded to you.
That's the only thing that concerns me....I think that it should be more like if you go inactive for more than 3 days twice, or more than 7 days once....People to go on vacations, and sometimes it will be hard to check on GLB...
- If you go inactive for 3 days, you lose your spot on the list and your 500 points are refunded to you.
That's the only thing that concerns me....I think that it should be more like if you go inactive for more than 3 days twice, or more than 7 days once....People to go on vacations, and sometimes it will be hard to check on GLB...
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Originally posted by shouse.ryan
im too lazy to read back and find out where the list is, where is it?
List not set up yet and they are not saying when it will be up. He wants to know what we think about this idea before he does it.
im too lazy to read back and find out where the list is, where is it?
List not set up yet and they are not saying when it will be up. He wants to know what we think about this idea before he does it.
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Originally posted by MD
Originally posted by Brocno4life6
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Bort
Go for it, we're not targeting you with that rule.
The problem is that a lot of teams have been cutting 30 players and then selling the team off recently, leaving the new owner with only a few players on the roster.
Oh I understand the rule, it's just a dumb side-effect of it, that legit teams who just happen to not have 40 players (but still have plenty of depth) have to do that.
How do you have plenty of depth with less than 40 players?
Cosign on this.
Teams shouldnt have less than 40, period.
Either of you want to show me where my team is short on depth? The only position I'm without a backup is QB and that's only because I've seen that Energy doesn't really require it. We're 2 deep at most positions, 3-5 deep at other positions.
Originally posted by Brocno4life6
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Bort
Go for it, we're not targeting you with that rule.
The problem is that a lot of teams have been cutting 30 players and then selling the team off recently, leaving the new owner with only a few players on the roster.
Oh I understand the rule, it's just a dumb side-effect of it, that legit teams who just happen to not have 40 players (but still have plenty of depth) have to do that.
How do you have plenty of depth with less than 40 players?
Cosign on this.
Teams shouldnt have less than 40, period.
Either of you want to show me where my team is short on depth? The only position I'm without a backup is QB and that's only because I've seen that Energy doesn't really require it. We're 2 deep at most positions, 3-5 deep at other positions.
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Awesome ideas. Thanks B/D/and T!!! You guys are really looking to make this game work and be as fair as possible.
Originally posted by Bort
DD and I have been discussing ways to make team buying a little more streamlined and less "fastest finger." We've pretty much figured there is no way we will ever get ahead of the demand for teams. We need to keep them at a consistent level with the number of players in the game, so as not to ruin the player market too much, which means we can't just add a huge load of teams all at once every season, like we did last time.
So, here's what we came up with, after reading some of your suggestions and talking it over (this hasn't been added yet - still in formative stages):
- We will remove the current version of the "buy team" page from the Flex Points section.
- We will add an "I want a team" waiting list.
- It costs 500 FP to hold your spot on the list.
- The list is ordered by account creation date.
- You cannot get on the list if you already have a team.
- If you go inactive for 3 days, you lose your spot on the list and your 500 points are refunded to you.
- You can pull yourself off of the list if you want, and receive your 500 FP back.
- When you click to be added to the list, you choose the top 3 regions you want to be in. The options also include "any region," or "none" for the second two (in case you only want one region).
- Whenever somebody sells a team, the first person on the list with that team's region as one of their options, who also has 500 FP to pay for the other half of the team, will get the team automatically at the end of the day.
- When we add new teams for this off-season, they will be added as CPU-only leagues. We will then release them to new owners over time, throughout the season, following the same rules as above. This will allow the teams to have a full 16-game schedule, but also allow us to control the team market a little better.
- When a team is given to you, its chemistry is automatically reset to 70/70/70.
- All teams will have to maintain a minimum roster of 40 players. You will not be able to cut players to get under that number. If, for whatever reason, you have under 40 players at the end of the day (expiring contracts, etc), random CPUs will be added to the team. This helps new owners to be ensured a team with enough players on it, and helps out with inactive teams as well.
- You will no longer be able to sell teams to other players via admin intervention for 1000 FP. The only way to sell a team will be to sell it back to the game. This helps us to avoid the "black market" aspect that we don't really like, and keeps it fair for all prospective owners. It will also encourage some responsibility with your team, since you can't get 100% of your purchase price back.
- The only exception to the resale is for inactive owners. We will still give an active GM the option of taking over the team, to encourage continuity on the team. If they don't want it, though, it goes to the top person on the wait list.
- We are discussing increasing the initial purchase price of teams by a little bit for next season, to help encourage responsible ownership. We'll let you know ahead of time if we decide to do that, and how much it will be.
We talked about the lottery idea, but we really want to reward the players who have been playing and waiting for a while, have learned a lot about the game, and have stuck around even though they don't have a team yet. They will probably make better owners than somebody who signed up yesterday, too.
Questions, concerns? Let us know.
Originally posted by Bort
DD and I have been discussing ways to make team buying a little more streamlined and less "fastest finger." We've pretty much figured there is no way we will ever get ahead of the demand for teams. We need to keep them at a consistent level with the number of players in the game, so as not to ruin the player market too much, which means we can't just add a huge load of teams all at once every season, like we did last time.
So, here's what we came up with, after reading some of your suggestions and talking it over (this hasn't been added yet - still in formative stages):
- We will remove the current version of the "buy team" page from the Flex Points section.
- We will add an "I want a team" waiting list.
- It costs 500 FP to hold your spot on the list.
- The list is ordered by account creation date.
- You cannot get on the list if you already have a team.
- If you go inactive for 3 days, you lose your spot on the list and your 500 points are refunded to you.
- You can pull yourself off of the list if you want, and receive your 500 FP back.
- When you click to be added to the list, you choose the top 3 regions you want to be in. The options also include "any region," or "none" for the second two (in case you only want one region).
- Whenever somebody sells a team, the first person on the list with that team's region as one of their options, who also has 500 FP to pay for the other half of the team, will get the team automatically at the end of the day.
- When we add new teams for this off-season, they will be added as CPU-only leagues. We will then release them to new owners over time, throughout the season, following the same rules as above. This will allow the teams to have a full 16-game schedule, but also allow us to control the team market a little better.
- When a team is given to you, its chemistry is automatically reset to 70/70/70.
- All teams will have to maintain a minimum roster of 40 players. You will not be able to cut players to get under that number. If, for whatever reason, you have under 40 players at the end of the day (expiring contracts, etc), random CPUs will be added to the team. This helps new owners to be ensured a team with enough players on it, and helps out with inactive teams as well.
- You will no longer be able to sell teams to other players via admin intervention for 1000 FP. The only way to sell a team will be to sell it back to the game. This helps us to avoid the "black market" aspect that we don't really like, and keeps it fair for all prospective owners. It will also encourage some responsibility with your team, since you can't get 100% of your purchase price back.
- The only exception to the resale is for inactive owners. We will still give an active GM the option of taking over the team, to encourage continuity on the team. If they don't want it, though, it goes to the top person on the wait list.
- We are discussing increasing the initial purchase price of teams by a little bit for next season, to help encourage responsible ownership. We'll let you know ahead of time if we decide to do that, and how much it will be.
We talked about the lottery idea, but we really want to reward the players who have been playing and waiting for a while, have learned a lot about the game, and have stuck around even though they don't have a team yet. They will probably make better owners than somebody who signed up yesterday, too.
Questions, concerns? Let us know.
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I thought there WAS a roster minimum already? Originally posted by Jed
Oh goodie, roster minimums. Off I go to sign a few level 1 CPU players to min salaries to rot on my bench.
Oh goodie, roster minimums. Off I go to sign a few level 1 CPU players to min salaries to rot on my bench.
FBGProfessor
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Our team made a point of signing players this off season to have at least 40 because of this thread:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=15210
I am surprised that a team like Jed's has managed to coast along without having 40 players.
The March 31 posting in that thread Jed is celebrating that he has 41 players and presumably has met the new rule, so it doesn't seem like you didn't know about the rule.
April 17 DD says that the roster minimum season two will be 40.
Originally posted by FBGProfessor
I thought there WAS a roster minimum already? Originally posted by Jed
Oh goodie, roster minimums. Off I go to sign a few level 1 CPU players to min salaries to rot on my bench.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=15210
I am surprised that a team like Jed's has managed to coast along without having 40 players.
The March 31 posting in that thread Jed is celebrating that he has 41 players and presumably has met the new rule, so it doesn't seem like you didn't know about the rule.
April 17 DD says that the roster minimum season two will be 40.
Originally posted by FBGProfessor
I thought there WAS a roster minimum already? Originally posted by Jed
Oh goodie, roster minimums. Off I go to sign a few level 1 CPU players to min salaries to rot on my bench.
Last edited May 17, 2008 16:48:31
FairForever
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Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by MD
Originally posted by Brocno4life6
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Bort
Go for it, we're not targeting you with that rule.
The problem is that a lot of teams have been cutting 30 players and then selling the team off recently, leaving the new owner with only a few players on the roster.
Oh I understand the rule, it's just a dumb side-effect of it, that legit teams who just happen to not have 40 players (but still have plenty of depth) have to do that.
How do you have plenty of depth with less than 40 players?
Cosign on this.
Teams shouldnt have less than 40, period.
Either of you want to show me where my team is short on depth? The only position I'm without a backup is QB and that's only because I've seen that Energy doesn't really require it. We're 2 deep at most positions, 3-5 deep at other positions.
Gotta agree with this. 40 is a really large number.
And yeah, everyone is just gonna sign level 1 CPU players anyway. I know that's what I'd do with a roster minimum.
Originally posted by MD
Originally posted by Brocno4life6
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Bort
Go for it, we're not targeting you with that rule.
The problem is that a lot of teams have been cutting 30 players and then selling the team off recently, leaving the new owner with only a few players on the roster.
Oh I understand the rule, it's just a dumb side-effect of it, that legit teams who just happen to not have 40 players (but still have plenty of depth) have to do that.
How do you have plenty of depth with less than 40 players?
Cosign on this.
Teams shouldnt have less than 40, period.
Either of you want to show me where my team is short on depth? The only position I'm without a backup is QB and that's only because I've seen that Energy doesn't really require it. We're 2 deep at most positions, 3-5 deep at other positions.
Gotta agree with this. 40 is a really large number.
And yeah, everyone is just gonna sign level 1 CPU players anyway. I know that's what I'd do with a roster minimum.
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Originally posted by GSUFan513
Originally posted by Bort
- If you go inactive for 3 days, you lose your spot on the list and your 500 points are refunded to you.
That's the only thing that concerns me....I think that it should be more like if you go inactive for more than 3 days twice, or more than 7 days once....People to go on vacations, and sometimes it will be hard to check on GLB...
No doubts, maybe just skip the inactive person like you would somebody who doesn't have the Flex Points to cover it one or two times before removing them from the list?
Originally posted by Bort
- If you go inactive for 3 days, you lose your spot on the list and your 500 points are refunded to you.
That's the only thing that concerns me....I think that it should be more like if you go inactive for more than 3 days twice, or more than 7 days once....People to go on vacations, and sometimes it will be hard to check on GLB...
No doubts, maybe just skip the inactive person like you would somebody who doesn't have the Flex Points to cover it one or two times before removing them from the list?
FBGProfessor
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I wouldn't mind this except once again there are two rules: those who know whether and how the rules will be enforced (or are just bold enough to break them and know they will have hands slapped if caught) and those who obey. I listed a thread above that makes it clear there was supposed to be 40 this season. And the purpose was to make sure new players got teams, not to sign CPUs.
I even posted in that thread asking simply that the rule be clear and that it be enforced. I don't care what the rules is but don't let some people get by doing one thing while other people try to follow the rules. Here we have an Alpha Tester and a moderator admitting that they haven't been observing this rule.
Originally posted by FairForever
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by MD
Originally posted by Brocno4life6
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Bort
Go for it, we're not targeting you with that rule.
The problem is that a lot of teams have been cutting 30 players and then selling the team off recently, leaving the new owner with only a few players on the roster.
Oh I understand the rule, it's just a dumb side-effect of it, that legit teams who just happen to not have 40 players (but still have plenty of depth) have to do that.
How do you have plenty of depth with less than 40 players?
Cosign on this.
Teams shouldnt have less than 40, period.
Either of you want to show me where my team is short on depth? The only position I'm without a backup is QB and that's only because I've seen that Energy doesn't really require it. We're 2 deep at most positions, 3-5 deep at other positions.
Gotta agree with this. 40 is a really large number.
And yeah, everyone is just gonna sign level 1 CPU players anyway. I know that's what I'd do with a roster minimum.
I even posted in that thread asking simply that the rule be clear and that it be enforced. I don't care what the rules is but don't let some people get by doing one thing while other people try to follow the rules. Here we have an Alpha Tester and a moderator admitting that they haven't been observing this rule.
Originally posted by FairForever
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by MD
Originally posted by Brocno4life6
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Bort
Go for it, we're not targeting you with that rule.
The problem is that a lot of teams have been cutting 30 players and then selling the team off recently, leaving the new owner with only a few players on the roster.
Oh I understand the rule, it's just a dumb side-effect of it, that legit teams who just happen to not have 40 players (but still have plenty of depth) have to do that.
How do you have plenty of depth with less than 40 players?
Cosign on this.
Teams shouldnt have less than 40, period.
Either of you want to show me where my team is short on depth? The only position I'm without a backup is QB and that's only because I've seen that Energy doesn't really require it. We're 2 deep at most positions, 3-5 deep at other positions.
Gotta agree with this. 40 is a really large number.
And yeah, everyone is just gonna sign level 1 CPU players anyway. I know that's what I'd do with a roster minimum.
Last edited May 17, 2008 17:01:00
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If feedback gets the list started sooner I'll add my 2 cents: Bort, great idea
ditto
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As someone who badly wants to own a team, due to the number of friends and friends of friends that are signed up, but hasn't been here since the start I guess I won't know how I feel about the list until I see how long it takes me to get a team. I apologize if I'm rehashing something but I glanced over all the pages of this thread but don't recall seeing these suggested - people who owned a team before should be lower on the list and people who own more than one team should be forced to choose one to keep if they choose to keep any.
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Yeah....While I think this is probably the best and most fair way to go about passing out new teams, its unfortunate for people who signed up later. Judging by the number of accounts, even though I started my account in season 1, I will be waiting a very very long time to get a team.
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