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Kayoh
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Originally posted by FairForever
For all the talk about running nerfs, in Sophomore, 4 of the top 12 are passing teams, 4 are running teams, and 4 are balanced.

Yes - the passing teams are on top of the running teams, but that's pretty similar to last season (#1/#3/#6 were pure pass - #2 was run - #4 / 5 were balanced). It's pretty clear run got hurt - but it's not at the point where being a pure running team is unplayable.

What are you even smoking?

#1 - Pass heavy (93% pass)
#2 - Balanced (59% pass)
#3 - Bal, pass lean (70% pass)
#4 - Pass heavy (92% pass)
#5 - Balanced (56% pass)
#6 - Pass heavy (98% pass)
#7 - Bal, pass lean (66% pass)
#8 - Pass heavy (92% pass)
#9 - Run only (100% run)
#10 - Run only (100% run)
#11 - Run only (100% run)
#12 - Bal, run lean (70% run)
 
Kayoh
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since we're manipulating data, I could just as easily say "not a single team in the top 8 of sophomore runs more than they pass"
 
FairForever
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Originally posted by Kayoh
since we're manipulating data, I could just as easily say "not a single team in the top 8 of sophomore runs more than they pass"


Originally posted by Kayoh

What are you even smoking?

#1 - Pass heavy (93% pass)
#2 - Balanced (59% pass)
#3 - Bal, pass lean (70% pass)
#4 - Pass heavy (92% pass)
#5 - Balanced (56% pass)
#6 - Pass heavy (98% pass)
#7 - Bal, pass lean (66% pass)
#8 - Pass heavy (92% pass)
#9 - Run only (100% run)
#10 - Run only (100% run)
#11 - Run only (100% run)
#12 - Bal, run lean (70% run)


I would not consider EEA a Balanced team - but if you look at it that way then I guess there would be 3 running teams.

Definitely the running game has been hurt. But it's not the doomsday situation everyone's been shouting. Outside of Omaha, which dropped significantly, most of the pure running teams are around the same ladder rank as what they were at the end of last season.
 
peeti
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Originally posted by FairForever
I would not consider EEA a Balanced team - but if you look at it that way then I guess there would be 3 running teams.

Definitely the running game has been hurt. But it's not the doomsday situation everyone's been shouting. Outside of Omaha, which dropped significantly, most of the pure running teams are around the same ladder rank as what they were at the end of last season.


Dude...there is hardly a running team in the top ten. Kayohs post also shows what I tried to say: your 4-4-4 in the top 12 is bull. Poor try to make it look good
 
FairForever
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Originally posted by peeti
Dude...there is hardly a running team in the top ten. Kayohs post also shows what I tried to say: your 4-4-4 in the top 12 is bull. Poor try to make it look good


Outside of Omaha, there was hardly a running team in the top 10 last season as well - no other pure running team got a ladder trophy so what is the difference? If we're comparing apples to apples here, outside of Omaha, running teams did not fare much worse on the ladder, at the least.
 
peeti
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Well, then bring that argument as it is legit. Your Top 12 argument was, as said, the worst post I have seen in this game for a while
 
jfbueno
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I'll be curious to see how the current sophomore run teams start doing in ladder once we're well into seasoned.
 
Lokiness
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Everyone knows that Run as awalys been a bit week early on.

So stop crying over some nerfs that actually made the game balanced at Pro and Vet level, you just look dumb doing this.
And for the retards that will check my profile to see if I have an interest in supporting the pass, I don't, I'm just tired of this bullshit.
 
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Originally posted by Kayoh

pure run blocking WRs are only necessary because of pure run defensing CBs. Can't get rid of one unless they get rid of the other.


I don't think you actually have any idea which came first.
 
Time Trial
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Originally posted by Kayoh

probably way better than pure run blocking WRs are at getting open and catching them.


Good thing an offense can decide to 100% run the ball. If only the defense could force the offense to do the same, then a 100% run defending D wouldn't get destroyed by passing teams.

Bort, can we get it so that the D picks the O play for them? K, thanks.
 
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Originally posted by Kayoh

What are you even smoking?

#1 - Pass heavy (93% pass)
#2 - Balanced (59% pass)
#3 - Bal, pass lean (70% pass)
#4 - Pass heavy (92% pass)
#5 - Balanced (56% pass)
#6 - Pass heavy (98% pass)
#7 - Bal, pass lean (66% pass)
#8 - Pass heavy (92% pass)
#9 - Run only (100% run)
#10 - Run only (100% run)
#11 - Run only (100% run)
#12 - Bal, run lean (70% run)


lol...he had to add 12 to get some run teams in.
 
jfbueno
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
lol...he had to add 12 to get some run teams in.


He'd have to add a whole lot more to include yours
 
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Originally posted by jfbueno
He'd have to add a whole lot more to include yours


Not next year bro!
 
Jagat0r
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Could someone please have this whole thread removed to the crybaby forum?
 
Kayoh
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So we're just supposed to concede that running is super tough in fresh and soph.

That being said, when you get to seasoned where you're facing Jman & Pro teams, running is even harder.

So where's the balance again? I don't think anybody would argue that 3-4 seasons of hell makes just being able to contend with the top passing teams at the Pro and Vet levels worthwhile.
Edited by Kayoh on Jun 26, 2015 12:06:32
 
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