Warrior General Games

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
updated to here

Hey - where's my idea for C1 TE Smother nickel play for 2WR defense?

I only listed drawn plays, not 'ideas'.

Originally posted by TxSteve
that's what I mean. Sorting through the stuff that makes no sense is going to be tiring and tedious. As the list gets longer - even more-so

I don't know why my play makes no sense. I use it successfully in GLB1 against spam. That was the whole point for me suggesting this. That crap doesn't work against me in GLB1 because plays can be made to counter. What's the point of a hundred more cover 2s? When all rush teams can still do 20 rollouts out of a formation for a 20+ yard average. Is it the dropping the NT into zone to stop cut backs? To each their own I guess, always worked for me.

I played some Whoping Crane team in GLB which spammed rollouts and no one could stop them. They got like 58 yards on 57 carries and lost to my team that was 9 levels behind them. That play was a big part of it. It is the inability to counter that crap here that is what is going to eventually make me sail of into the sunset prematurely.

sorry - I wasn't saying anything about YOUR play - I was just saying in general - probably plenty of plays submitted that aren't practical.

Sorry this one is upside down. My computers Internet was acting up so I took a picture and went through the process on my phone. The play is Cover 2 LB Zone for the nickel formation. It features the LOLB blitzing the QB and the MLB dropping back to play zone coverage in the middle of the field. The DLine is shifted towards the weak side, and the Safeties are a bit wider apart than you would normally see. I think this would be a great play to stop all passing teams and can be pretty much be spammed against 3 Wide sets. It should also bring back some importance to coverage LB's, seeing as alot of people are just plain blitzing the QB these days. Contest winner- probably not, good play- I would think so.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/9potg8.jpg

Originally posted by TyDavis315
Sorry this one is upside down. My computers Internet was acting up so I took a picture and went through the process on my phone. The play is Cover 2 LB Zone for the nickel formation. It features the LOLB blitzing the QB and the MLB dropping back to play zone coverage in the middle of the field. The DLine is shifted towards the weak side, and the Safeties are a bit wider apart than you would normally see. I think this would be a great play to stop all passing teams and can be pretty much be spammed against 3 Wide sets. It should also bring back some importance to coverage LB's, seeing as alot of people are just plain blitzing the QB these days. Contest winner- probably not, good play- I would think so.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/9potg8.jpg

You're leaving the TE uncovered?

Originally posted by TxSteve
sorry - I wasn't saying anything about YOUR play - I was just saying in general - probably plenty of plays submitted that aren't practical.

Yeah, plays that are made to stop one kind of play but give a free TD to any other aren't likely to be added.

I'm fine with like a 70-20-10 hypothetical effectiveness spread, but a 100-0-0 spread is not very practical.

I personally don't mind the risk. If you know what the bad guys are going to do before the game and then why call plays that are not going to work?

First down QB roll-out right for 4 yards. Second down QB roll out right for -1 yards. You think you finally have a play that works at this point. Then 3rd down QB roll-out right for a 77 yard gain and a TD! You dink and dunk your way for a hard fought score to tie the game. Then the second play of their next drive is a 73 yard TD on another QB roll-out right. You then miss a 19 yard FG and just like that it's 21-7. My play is a GL(zero WR outside run) play their are only three things that really can happen out of the GL offense. Outside run, inside run, or a screen that will likely be dropped because a 100% rushing QB threw it. But you know that team only calls roll-outs.

Even if I could use that play everyone would still get blocked for ten minutes and the QB would still stroll in untouched for a 74 yard TD.

I don't care who makes the plays I just hope we get some that help damper what seem like exploit plays to me. I mean here is the current version of a zero WR outside tun defense. Talk about free TD.

http://i.imgur.com/DHlbuah.jpg

Thanks for doing this. There are some great ideas and plays so far.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
I have a few I'd like to enter:

Album: http://imgur.com/a/fdepn

Plays:
4-3 OLB Blitz
4-3 Cover 1 Will Blitz
4-3 Cover 1 Sam Blitz
4-3 Cover 1 Mike Blitz
4-3 Fire Man
Nickel Cover 1 TE Smother 2
Nickel Cover 1 Slot Smother
5-2 Tiger Blitz
5-2 Cover 3 Tiger
3-4 Cover 3 Tiger



Few more plays to add to my list:

http://imgur.com/a/fdepn

Nickel 3-3-5 2 Man Mike Fire Strong
Nickel 3-3-5 2 Man Mike Fire Weak
Nickel 3-3-5 2 Man Sam Blitz
Nickel 3-3-5 2 Man Sam Fire
Nickel 3-3-5 2 Man Will Blitz
Nickel 3-3-5 2 Man CB Fire
4-3 Man LB All Go
Dime 3-2-6 LB Blitz

Originally posted by Barakas
Short pass play defenses are seriously lacking for Man coverage, they're all either a blitz or C1 Lurk. Created a number of plays where the safeties/LB go to the under zones rather than shells:

Nickel C2 Safety Under: http://i.imgur.com/csoOcZe.png
Nickel 3-3-5 C3 Under: http://i.imgur.com/6naFkgx.png
Dime C2 Safety Under: http://i.imgur.com/vt5Oyf7.png
Dime 3-2-6 C3 Under: http://i.imgur.com/65Vmw3o.png
Quarter C3 Under: http://i.imgur.com/3CNnj3o.png

The C2 also help a little against the inside run, while C3 helps against outside runs.

Those...aren't Cover 2s or Cover 3s.

Not saying they're good or bad, but those are weird Cover 0 Robbers or something.

I kinda like it. Gives reason to put some Zone SA's on safeties actually.

I actually like it as well

Would probably need some damn good cover corners but an Eye on the Prize safety might really be neat with that.

Originally posted by Corndog
Those...aren't Cover 2s or Cover 3s.

Not saying they're good or bad, but those are weird Cover 0 Robbers or something.

Meh, I don't know what the hell you call them, I just made up some names. I don't follow American football so don't know what the actual terminology is Heck, I don't even know what an actual Nickel or Dime is, I think it's 5 or 10 cents but don't know which way around they are. I just know that having guys cover zones closer to the line of scrimmage rather than the deep zones would be nice.

Originally posted by bhall43
I kinda like it. Gives reason to put some Zone SA's on safeties actually.

But would the SA's actually fire? The restrictions on when the zone SA's trigger are pretty severe.