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Rob.
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Originally posted by Corndog
Originally posted by Corndog

Determines QB's handoff ability, and reduces morale and energy losses for the entire on-field offense.




So more botched handoffs then?
 
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Originally posted by rob4121983
So more botched handoffs then?


No... all thr changes is to leadership is that it doesn't boost the qbs own morale.
 
Merik
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Originally posted by underdog13
No... all thr changes is to leadership is that it doesn't boost the qbs own morale.


but since morale/energy has more of an impact on the effectiveness of Leadership it could mean more botched hand offs
 
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Originally posted by Merik
but since morale/energy has more of an impact on the effectiveness of Leadership it could mean more botched hand offs


excellent

all good things
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
excellent

all good things


 
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also means lower morale for WRs when they drop passes!

edit: assuming QB isnt at max energy/morale
Edited by mrm708 on Oct 14, 2014 12:52:48
 
Aeir
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Since QBs will need to have higher toughness/heart to counter the leadership change (keep there own morale/energy higher), wouldn't that in itself reduce the impact on Trash Talk in general?
 
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Originally posted by Aeir
Since QBs will need to have higher toughness/heart to counter the leadership change (keep there own morale/energy higher), wouldn't that in itself reduce the impact on Trash Talk in general?


Toughness is the way to resist Trash Talk. But couldn't it be argued this makes it more desired as well? Use Trash Talk to lower the morale,of the QB so his leadership is less effective.
 
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Originally posted by Aeir
Since QBs will need to have higher toughness/heart to counter the leadership change (keep there own morale/energy higher), wouldn't that in itself reduce the impact on Trash Talk in general?


Higher toughness reduces the amount of morale lost from trash talk, but any lost morale on the QB will have a much bigger impact on the rest of the offenses morale due to the leadership change. Hard to say for sure but I think it will balance out with trash talk being more powerful than before.
 
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I'll be curious to see how this turns out. How about folks sharing their leadership skill?

my stunner QB had 92 (is a handing off qb)

my Dookie QB has 84 (is a passing qb)

I talked to another mostly run squad who's QB was only in the low 40's for leadership


Anyone else?
 
Galithor
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Nobody is even really exploiting Trash Talk yet to it's fullest. That will change next season. I wonder how many offers that LB from the Detroit Revelers gets from top flight teams this offseason?
 
Aeir
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I get that, but other than extreme cases (sub 30 Toughness) though...

A higher toughness...
Means it will take longer to drain a QBs morale from Trash Talk.
Which means a QB will have more opportunity to regain morale (first downs/TDs) before being completely drained.
Which means the entire team will also have more opportunity to regain morale.

This doesn't include sacks/showboat etc... that drain a QB of morale.

After doing a lot of watching of how Trash Talk plays out (my team being the reason for this thread: http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5199454) I really like the change. Is it a fix all? Of course not, but I do think this is a step in the right direction to a good Trash Talk balance.

Will I still try to abuse it? Sure, since I have the players to try. And forget even trying it until you have at least 1 gold TT, as any loss from Silver TT with 40+ toughness is negligible.

 
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Originally posted by Galithor
Nobody is even really exploiting Trash Talk yet to it's fullest. That will change next season. I wonder how many offers that LB from the Detroit Revelers gets from top flight teams this offseason?


Already signed. But I'm curious too
Edited by Aeir on Oct 14, 2014 13:45:03
 
mrm708
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I don't think passing QBs are going to be raising toughness above 50 mainly because of this change. They would probably be doing so to counter trash talk regardless of the change, so its a bit of a false argument to say trash talk won't be as strong because all QBs are gonna be stacking toughness now. Due to this change it would be more valuable for a QB to raise heart and conditioning higher before toughness.

edit: just talking about higher tier passing QBs that rarely get sacked.
Edited by mrm708 on Oct 14, 2014 14:15:39
 
DeeVee8
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Yeah, something seems off balanced here...

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/113375

How will the changes affect a game like that?
 
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