Warrior General Games

Originally posted by CinTex
and the masses need some type of Admin to post everyday to tell them that everything is OK.... or in the event that its not OK, that everything will be OK in a day or two.... to just hold your Horses!!!!

Bug mods aren't good enough to relay info? Nobody will ever trust them, will they? TBH, lots of people don't even trust the other admins either, even if they take a quote straight from me. I see "support told me this, but I don't trust it" far too often. That's pretty ludicrous. I get the feeling that some people just seem to have this idea that we are big bad bullies out to ruin their fun. It's almost like we have gamers on here or something.

Originally posted by Bort
Bug mods aren't good enough to relay info? Nobody will ever trust them, will they? TBH, lots of people don't even trust the other admins either, even if they take a quote straight from me. I see "support told me this, but I don't trust it" far too often. That's pretty ludicrous. I get the feeling that some people just seem to have this idea that we are big bad bullies out to ruin their fun. It's almost like we have gamers on here or something.

That's what happens when you make an MMORPG of America's Passion......

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by CinTex

and the masses need some type of Admin to post everyday to tell them that everything is OK.... or in the event that its not OK, that everything will be OK in a day or two.... to just hold your Horses!!!!

Bug mods aren't good enough to relay info? Nobody will ever trust them, will they? TBH, lots of people don't even trust the other admins either, even if they take a quote straight from me. I see "support told me this, but I don't trust it" far too often. That's pretty ludicrous. I get the feeling that some people just seem to have this idea that we are big bad bullies out to ruin their fun. It's almost like we have gamers on here or something.

You think that just happened for no reason?

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by CinTex

and the masses need some type of Admin to post everyday to tell them that everything is OK.... or in the event that its not OK, that everything will be OK in a day or two.... to just hold your Horses!!!!

Bug mods aren't good enough to relay info? Nobody will ever trust them, will they? TBH, lots of people don't even trust the other admins either, even if they take a quote straight from me. I see "support told me this, but I don't trust it" far too often. That's pretty ludicrous. I get the feeling that some people just seem to have this idea that we are big bad bullies out to ruin their fun. It's almost like we have gamers on here or something.

I've seen plenty of cases where support has given the wrong info. Unfortunately unless something is from your mouth it's useless.

Originally posted by Bukowski
So you can not want people to be paranoid all you want, but you need to accept some of the blame as to why it's happening.

Yeah, I do. But we've generally changed the method of operation since then, haven't we? Why can't you?

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Bukowski

Well we also get tired of being called conspiracy theorists, when we suspect that something was changed mid-season.

Because let's be honest here, it wouldn't be the first time that something was changed without us being told. It would also not be the first time that something wasn't working like you swore it was, kind of like the weight bug (x-factor).

So maybe there is some compromise on both sides, because your side definitely isn't without fault. And to speak of the change-log as if it is updated every single time something is updated, is laughable. There have been countless times where people in the forums have brought up issues that were changed, only to look in the change-log, and it not be there.

Sim stuff like changing a skill's effectiveness is ALWAYS listed. Little stuff like fixing some database error isn't (because nobody cares about that). For the last several seasons, updates have pretty much come as big bunches once or twice a season, and bugfixes here and there, and they have all been accompanied by changelog entries. The day-to-day "tweaking" I did during the first 3-4 seasons just doesn't happen any more; I've been more worried about "big picture" ideas these days and fixing major interactions.

There are so many times I have seen people swear up and down something has been changed during periods I have been away, like during Christmas, or when I have been out of town, or had friends visiting. Times when I couldn't have even gotten to a computer to change anything, or I haven't even been working with the sim. It's pretty laughable, tbh. Just because your guy did something different, doesn't mean I "stealth changed" something to screw you over. Random numbers cause random outcomes. That's how it goes. I know a lot of people like to blame stuff on "big bad Bort" when it doesn't go their way, but it's usually just not the case.

Bort this is a little off topic for this thread but in the Death of the Creative OC thread, I just reposted something that I'd hope you will respond to. We talked about what I posted 2-3 seasons ago and it still hasn't been fixed. There are a few teams I told you that were problematic a few seasons ago that we discussed how to remedy them that are still happening. I would hope that you are still trying to find ways to fix it.

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Bukowski

So you can not want people to be paranoid all you want, but you need to accept some of the blame as to why it's happening.

Yeah, I do. But we've generally changed the method of operation since then, haven't we? Why can't you?

I already explained why.

What about the weight bug last season?

That wasn't so long ago, was it? You refused to listen to any of us.

Originally posted by Bort
Bug mods aren't good enough to relay info? Nobody will ever trust them, will they? TBH, lots of people don't even trust the other admins either, even if they take a quote straight from me. I see "support told me this, but I don't trust it" far too often. That's pretty ludicrous. I get the feeling that some people just seem to have this idea that we are big bad bullies out to ruin their fun. It's almost like we have gamers on here or something.

no Bort. they don't trust them because you're the only one that knows the code. and sometimes you don't even know that, to be frank. there have been issues, as Bukowski has pointed out.

Originally posted by jrry32
Bort this is a little off topic for this thread but in the Death of the Creative OC thread, I just reposted something that I'd hope you will respond to. We talked about what I posted 2-3 seasons ago and it still hasn't been fixed. There are a few teams I told you that were problematic a few seasons ago that we discussed how to remedy them that are still happening. I would hope that you are still trying to find ways to fix it.

LOL, funny you mention it. We have a jrry32's idea thread going right now, actually.

Originally posted by cosmoxl
Originally posted by Bort

Bug mods aren't good enough to relay info? Nobody will ever trust them, will they? TBH, lots of people don't even trust the other admins either, even if they take a quote straight from me. I see "support told me this, but I don't trust it" far too often. That's pretty ludicrous. I get the feeling that some people just seem to have this idea that we are big bad bullies out to ruin their fun. It's almost like we have gamers on here or something.

no Bort. they don't trust them because you're the only one that knows the code. and sometimes you don't even know that, to be frank. there have been issues, as Bukowski has pointed out.

Exactly. There has been countless mods giving out bad info on the forums. Most of them don't know anymore than your average user does.

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by jrry32

Bort this is a little off topic for this thread but in the Death of the Creative OC thread, I just reposted something that I'd hope you will respond to. We talked about what I posted 2-3 seasons ago and it still hasn't been fixed. There are a few teams I told you that were problematic a few seasons ago that we discussed how to remedy them that are still happening. I would hope that you are still trying to find ways to fix it.

LOL, funny you mention it. We have a jrry32's idea thread going right now, actually.

Even if it is not changed, can I please get an explanation on why fakes are not an inherent ability like broken tackles. Keep in mind I want them to trigger much less than BT's, maybe not even more than now. Just don't see why a back with high agility/carrying/etc can not possibly fake without the SA's.

Originally posted by Bort
LOL, funny you mention it. We have a jrry32's idea thread going right now, actually.

This is why we are untrusting....

Secret forums where you post and we can't see...

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by jrry32

Bort this is a little off topic for this thread but in the Death of the Creative OC thread, I just reposted something that I'd hope you will respond to. We talked about what I posted 2-3 seasons ago and it still hasn't been fixed. There are a few teams I told you that were problematic a few seasons ago that we discussed how to remedy them that are still happening. I would hope that you are still trying to find ways to fix it.

LOL, funny you mention it. We have a jrry32's idea thread going right now, actually.

No one ever lets me in on anything around here.

I think there also might be some problems with zone coverage unless you have fixed it where guys in underneath shallow zones will go into man coverage mode with the first player to go through their zone which doesn't seem right at all to me. Not sure if you fixed that.

*Foo loves "Big Bad Bort" even though sometimes he doesn't show it*

I have some intimacy issues.