Originally posted by VegasABD
Originally posted by hays23
I've discussed this in PM with both Steve and RJ...I apologized to both for blowing up...after a bit of time to think about it, this is my thinking...
WWR were demoted from WPL and went 16-0 in the regular season losing only to a very good team in the Conf. Finals
Grits went 31-1 the last two seasons and had maybe 2-3 close games
It is very clear that both teams absolutely belong in WPL. They both have the talent to compete there.
WPL forums suck. They are childish and there is little serious talk or discussion of the game. This we can agree on. But the level of game play is much better and seemingly more fun that having 2-3 tough games in APL.
The argument of 'we're losing some of our best players to retirement' doesn't really fly because almost all of the top teams are in the same boat. That's just how it works. You dominate a Pro League for 3-4 seasons and eventually your guys get too old and you need new guys.
The argument of 'we wanted to earn our way to WPL' doesn't really fly either. You don't need a trophy to have earned your way to WPL. You were the best team in line. This isn't a situation where the 5th or 6th team down just happened to be the next best team and their number was called. We're talking about a team that was dominant in APL for multiple seasons.
In the end its an option. WWR and Grits played the system how they wanted. They shouldn't have a choice, but they do and they decided they would rather stay in APL. Blame Bort for letting it come to this.
Steve and RJ are still class guys and they run class teams with class agents. That hasn't changed and I expect it never will. That said, they are allowed to be given some shit for not going. That's just how it is, and they probably realize that just as much as anybody else.
I'm looking forward to a great season in APL, and with any luck some of these up and coming teams will make Grits and WWR look foolish for staying here .
Dude, what a target you put on your back...You bitch about Grits, then bitch about WWR...Call them both out here and in the public forums, and now you have had time to think about it, and all is forgiven.....You are the APL, idiot....You never had a leg to stand on, and now you lost both...From here on out, I will refer to you as STUMPY
Hi pot, you are black.
Originally posted by hays23
I've discussed this in PM with both Steve and RJ...I apologized to both for blowing up...after a bit of time to think about it, this is my thinking...
WWR were demoted from WPL and went 16-0 in the regular season losing only to a very good team in the Conf. Finals
Grits went 31-1 the last two seasons and had maybe 2-3 close games
It is very clear that both teams absolutely belong in WPL. They both have the talent to compete there.
WPL forums suck. They are childish and there is little serious talk or discussion of the game. This we can agree on. But the level of game play is much better and seemingly more fun that having 2-3 tough games in APL.
The argument of 'we're losing some of our best players to retirement' doesn't really fly because almost all of the top teams are in the same boat. That's just how it works. You dominate a Pro League for 3-4 seasons and eventually your guys get too old and you need new guys.
The argument of 'we wanted to earn our way to WPL' doesn't really fly either. You don't need a trophy to have earned your way to WPL. You were the best team in line. This isn't a situation where the 5th or 6th team down just happened to be the next best team and their number was called. We're talking about a team that was dominant in APL for multiple seasons.
In the end its an option. WWR and Grits played the system how they wanted. They shouldn't have a choice, but they do and they decided they would rather stay in APL. Blame Bort for letting it come to this.
Steve and RJ are still class guys and they run class teams with class agents. That hasn't changed and I expect it never will. That said, they are allowed to be given some shit for not going. That's just how it is, and they probably realize that just as much as anybody else.
I'm looking forward to a great season in APL, and with any luck some of these up and coming teams will make Grits and WWR look foolish for staying here .
Dude, what a target you put on your back...You bitch about Grits, then bitch about WWR...Call them both out here and in the public forums, and now you have had time to think about it, and all is forgiven.....You are the APL, idiot....You never had a leg to stand on, and now you lost both...From here on out, I will refer to you as STUMPY
Hi pot, you are black.