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Originally posted by datongw

when the DE is right there with the HB, it shouldn't be that easy for the HB to catch the ball. But they catch it pretty much 100% of the time.

Then there's the VAs for the Scatbacks, they'll make bruiser look like child play. Bruiser get you +45% to break tackle, but short yardage monster will give +60% to break tackle and YAC attack will give +75%, both of these will be on for HB screens. Stack them up and these HBs are monsters behind the LOS.

So as DC, 1) you can't prevent them from catching the ball; 2) It's very difficult to tackle them when they catch the ball and behind the LOS; 3) once they get past that first missed tackle, they'll be running behind 3 overpowered blockers;

Thanks to VAs, the sim is just fucked up and totally unbalanced. I'm just really glad we are not going to have coaches next season, I just can't imagine how much more fucked it will be with additional options to stack.


I was going to edit this down a bit and highlight the important points....but really you pretty much nailed it.

I do hear word that some changes are in the works...but perhaps SYM should not apply to passing plays....that would go a long ways towards fixing the current issue.

I know Bort is working on having defenders that are in man coverage on the HB actually going past the line of scrimmage.

Like this:

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1428&pbp_id=310407

He's doing some other things as well - but that right there will be a huge help against screen passes.

Originally posted by thehazyone
I know Bort is working on having defenders that are in man coverage on the HB actually going past the line of scrimmage.

Like this:

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1428&pbp_id=310407

He's doing some other things as well - but that right there will be a huge help against screen passes.
Ballin'

Originally posted by Darth Asheme
Originally posted by thehazyone

I know Bort is working on having defenders that are in man coverage on the HB actually going past the line of scrimmage.

Like this:

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1428&pbp_id=310407

He's doing some other things as well - but that right there will be a huge help against screen passes.
Ballin'

That is Ballin'

Also on a somewhat unrelated note..DEs in flat zones will no longer just sit there and do nothing when noone is in their zone and QBs are rolled right in front of them.

And the game will shift back to a point where screens are useless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc

hahaha

Originally posted by Gart888
And the game will shift back to a point where screens are useless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc

unless your HB breaks that tackle...YAC Attack Plus Short Yardage Monster Plus Bruiser?!?!?! whoa!

but then again outside blocker is probably gonna be nerfed to the point of uselessness

Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by datongw

I have a lot of respect for you Tautology, but I don't think you should be making comments like these until you watch the game. We defend the screen probably as well as anybody out there. But take a look at these plays and tell me what I could do as a DC to improve it:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=790607&pbp_id=16743074
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=790607&pbp_id=16745058
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=790607&pbp_id=16745127
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=790607&pbp_id=16745391
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=790607&pbp_id=16747520
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=790607&pbp_id=16747566

For the most part, we defended it very well, despite getting 5 TOs, their offense only mustered 3 FGs and 1 TD. We lost the game due to the 3 fumbles and 2 INTs, no doubt about it.

Here's the regular season game between TKW and Singapore: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=780578. TKW also turned the ball over 4 times in that game, but the defense were able to hold them to 181 yards. The only difference this time around is that they basically took our defense out of the game.

I'm not going to bitch about it, they did whatever it gave them the best chance to win. I'm more pissed about this crappy sim than anything else.


You are right, I hadn't watched the game...also, I was not directing my comments towards you, but making a rather general statement in response to other rather general statements...my apologies.

Yes, it does look as though you defended the screen adequately...you just got beat by some nasty HBs. The same thing happened to us with Jedi Knight, and Bonn does similar damage with their two HBs. Edward Bailey is also a menace on those plays.

Folks talk about outside blocker being uber (which it mostly is) but the reality is that a good defense can still usually get 2 tacklers on the HB before much damage is done.

If the HB in question can over-power those 2 or so tacklers on a regular basis (through jukes, power through or speed)....that's when the real damage is done.

From the looks of the game, I would say the screen strategy was only a small part of the victory...you definitely had some RNG running against you, though Singapore has always played a hard-hitting fumble forcing defense....their dots were on fire today and yours were napping.

It sucks...but at least you will get another shot next season.

Congrats on a great season, even if it ended with a little bit of a whimper.

And congrats to Singapore as well for a great season.



Fuck this. You're a bitch.

who?

he might be saying all of the above

I think one of the most frustrating things about this whole thing is that it is isn't football.... and this is a football game....

Screens are meant to catch the defense off guard and to counter the DEs from pinning their ears back or from the defense bringing the blitz.... that is what makes the screen a great weapon.....

However, if you know a team is going to screen... it should get a loss of every single play... nobody would pass rush, the back would be double teams and spyed... and it would either be incomplete or a loss.... however, with this game... you can know 100% they are going to blitz and it will still burn you every time... That is what's frustrating... You can have a great defensive mind and be a great DC, but it does not translate to success against exploits...

Originally posted by ufshowboat
I think one of the most frustrating things about this whole thing is that it is isn't football.... and this is a football game....

Screens are meant to catch the defense off guard and to counter the DEs from pinning their ears back or from the defense bringing the blitz.... that is what makes the screen a great weapon.....

However, if you know a team is going to screen... it should get a loss of every single play... nobody would pass rush, the back would be double teams and spyed... and it would either be incomplete or a loss.... however, with this game... you can know 100% they are going to blitz and it will still burn you every time... That is what's frustrating... You can have a great defensive mind and be a great DC, but it does not translate to success against exploits...

The problem is that GLB players can't adapt and Bort isn't fixing things that have been broken forever, instead he's adding new things to the game. I wish he'd make a better effort to try and fix defensive pathing.

Originally posted by ufshowboat
I think one of the most frustrating things about this whole thing is that it is isn't football.... and this is a football game....

Screens are meant to catch the defense off guard and to counter the DEs from pinning their ears back or from the defense bringing the blitz.... that is what makes the screen a great weapon.....

However, if you know a team is going to screen... it should get a loss of every single play... nobody would pass rush, the back would be double teams and spyed... and it would either be incomplete or a loss.... however, with this game... you can know 100% they are going to blitz and it will still burn you every time... That is what's frustrating... You can have a great defensive mind and be a great DC, but it does not translate to success against exploits...

welcome to the game of loldots (and season 4)

Originally posted by Drago
Fuck this. You're a bitch.

Stated without proof, imo. Can you elaborate?