Warrior General Games

Originally posted by 954baller
Originally posted by otmalize

Originally posted by Whatsdafus


My Wests pro bowl picks...
Every west team owner should do this....

Offense

QB - Even tho he was on a team that had a massive oline and a chimp could have played qb for... he did put up the #'s one would expect.
QB- Big Tuna. Tallahassee Seminoles

HB - This one was tough. I liked Iowa jones till i saw that he had 130 more carries then everyone else, yet didnt put up all that much yardage. I had Two running backs who i felt were the primary reason of their teams offense's success even tho they both were spliting carries with other backs. Those two were Hodges Mitchell and Steve Blaze.... my choice will go to this back cause his team won more and he was and is their primary offensive source. without him, they wouldnt be where they are.
HB- Steve Blazer. Chicago Bears

FB- This is tough. Not only do i want a guy who can run the ball, but i want a guy who puts defenders on their asses when he is opening holes for the HB. Now one might be like Peter DeLangley did alot of yards... no pancakes.. alot of tackles for loss and thats more of a HB then a FB. Same could be said for my #2 runner up Chicken Bonz. So that leaves my probowl bad ass FB
FB - Eric Wolfe. Tallahassee Seminoles

WR- After going thru all the data... this was easier to pick then i thought it would have been. my 2 selections for wide receiver are...
WR1- Wayne Weeze. Tallahassee Seminoles
WR2- Nacho Pappa. Omaha Mavericks

TE - This again came down to 2 TE's that i saw stand out from the rest. One put up 637 yards from 66 catches for 3 td's with 4 broken tackles, 1 fumble recover and a tackle to boot. The other put up 586 yards from 58 catches for 4 td's 2 pancakes, with 8 broken tackles, 4 fumble recover, a forced fumble on offense and 3 tackles... im going with TE #2.
TE - Leon Phoenix. Chicago Bears

OT - I wish there was a Sack allowed stat, so i will have to go by the only stat we have.... pancakes. Now one might be like well Trykon Krelfor has the most out of all tackles.... but the 2 i selected were #2 and #3 in pancakes for a tackle and they did that with almost 200 less snaps then Trykon Krelfor... funny thing is, they both play for the same team.
OT1 - Kevin Pierpoint. Texas Roughnecks
OT2 - Malcolm McPancake. Texas Roughnecks

G - These two guys dominated the pancake scene.... and there is no one i would pick over them.
G1 - Jack Brimmstone. Caribbean Sphere
G2 - Steven McKenzie. San Francisco Stonecutters

C - Center position was an easy pick.
c- Matty Birk. The Real Austin Longhorns

Defense

NT - To me a great NT is someone who clogs the running lanes, gets a ton of tackles for loss, makes backs drop the ball, a sack every now and then and totally screws up another teams running attack. There was three guys who were a close call... but this is my man.
NT - Jake Rock. Houston Orangebloods

DT - To me a great DT is someone who clogs the running lanes, gets a ton of tackles for loss, makes backs drop the ball, a sack every now and then and totally screws up another teams running attack
DT - Rodrique Wright. The Real Austin Longhorns

LDE - My Left defensive end has to be able to eat up all the HB's that come their way. going thru all the teams left ends i came to 3 guys who stood out. Nitsud Skraps, Banana Joe Fuld and Sticky Wang. The guy i picked not only wraped everyone up that came his way, he terrorized qb's, forced fumbles and even got a interception.
LDE - Nitsud Skraps. K-Town Hates Phil

RDE - Right defensive end doesnt for some reason get the glamore and shots lde gets in glb (dont ask why). But i want a guy who can play just like a left end. RDE are asked to do more coverage so i want a guy who gets tackles, gets to the QB, and can knock down the ball. The 2 guys i saw that did all of this are... Rob York and Drunken McScotch. im going with....
RDE - Drunken McScotch. Caribbean Sphere

LB'ers - to me a linebacker needs to be oldschool... hit everything that moves and makes sure it doesnt want to come back again. These guys hit everyone so many times... their momma didnt want them to play football anymore.
LB1 - Chauncey Hamilton. D.C. Sonics
LB2 - Tort Feasor. San Francisco Stonecutters
LB3 - Scott Badalamenti. Chicago Bears

CB's - I like guys who shut WR's down, knock the ball down... pick it off and all around are solid players.
CB1 - Evil Deon. Houston Orangebloods
CB2 - Kimbo Harding. Chicago Bears

FS - A free safety to me is the center fielder. he is floating in space waiting to react to what the offense does. So a Free safety to me should have a nice amount of tackles, a ton of PD's and a INT here and there. This guy did it all.
FS - Rodney Wlliams. The Real Austin Longhorns

SS - Strong safety is the MLB of teh secondary. he need to crush everything that comes in his area. On a losing squad, this guy should be the leading tacklers for his team. But the guy im picking isnt on a losing squad or a bad defense. So what that tells me is he is flying all over the feild, beating great players to the ball to make those tackles. Not to mention that this guy could almost be a shutdown corner.
SS - Ford Harper. Tallahassee Seminoles

Special Teams

Kicker- I hate kickers. they are useless. If they make it, well you were supposed to, your a kicker. If they miss it.. they get cut. This guy hit everything (81% of the time) and even hit 3 from 50+..... thats close to being clutch.
Kicker - Tom Foolery. Caribbean Sphere

Punter - One of the most important parts of football is field position. The battle of pushing your team further and further into the opponents field maked a punter a huge asset or a huge problem. This guy hooked his team up all year long.
Punter - Punty McPunt. Caribbean Sphere

Kick Returner - This is the guy, who after his team lets up a score, has to answer the bell. He is the first strike to dictact if the team will put points back up on the other team. This guy gave his team great field positions all year.
Kick returner - Sly Foxe. San Francisco Stonecutters

Punt Returner - There is nothing like forcing an offense off the field to punt the ball... and having a guy return it to where the ball was or further down the field! This guy kicked so much ass returning punts... that he even scored!
Punt Returner - Gigantic African. Tallahassee Seminoles

/signed

Those are all wonderful picks, but you say "Even tho he was on a team that had a massive oline and a chimp could have played qb for... he did put up the #'s one would expect"

Then you got to give some of our big uglies some love for the Pro Bowl, Tuna sat back there all day all season b/c of them and we averaged the most yards per carry rushing b/c of them.

Log Pincher and Bangs McCoy are our two leaders and should be locks imo.Log Pincher lead the league in Pancakes.


*shrugs*

Whatever you like...I just read his write up and thought, "You know, that's just about right."

DR TRAN left out of the pro bowl!!!!

Anywho, props to mr turner for passing me up there, but last game he was the entire offense, I was thrown to 3 or 4 times.

Our team has no fav target, and my greedy running backs (that's a joke) stepped it up halfway through the season and have been taking a lot of runs for scores and yards.

DT - To me a great DT is someone who clogs the running lanes, gets a ton of tackles for loss, makes backs drop the ball, a sack every now and then and totally screws up another teams running attack
DT - Rodrique Wright. The Real Austin Longhorns


I disagree Brian Oaks from K-Town Hates Phil should be in this spot. He is a beast.

Originally posted by poundinYerAce
DT - To me a great DT is someone who clogs the running lanes, gets a ton of tackles for loss, makes backs drop the ball, a sack every now and then and totally screws up another teams running attack
DT - Rodrique Wright. The Real Austin Longhorns


I disagree Brian Oaks from K-Town Hates Phil should be in this spot. He is a beast.

IMO, top 3 DT's (in no particular order):

Brian Oaks
Squirrel Eater
Sneaky Wang

Originally posted by Staceman
Big Tuna didn't lead the conference AND have the #2 and #4 rushers in the conference to share TD's with jk


He did not have the #2 and #4 rushers. He had the #1 rushing attack, two 1,000 yard rushers (#5 and #6 in the league) plus another 600+ yard rusher. I know you were kidding, and so am I. You can not deny the season Tuna had.

Originally posted by Whatsdafus
I picked the best i felt for every position.

If you had the 2nd best player at every position... wouldnt you be dominate?

OK - I'm in no position to demand an explanation, but I'll at least ask for one.

Why did you not put Log Pincher in at first team guard?
He led the division with 110 pancakes and averaged one every 9.22 plays.
McKenzie (Who is a Center, not a Guard btw) was second with 105 and averaged one every 10.01 plays.
Brimmstone had 77 pancakes but had an impressive one pancake every 8.81 plays (I understand this pick because of his high rate of pancakes)
In almost every single offensive statistical category the Seminoles were first in the division, so you can't argue with the results of the line.

I'm assuming you (like most of us) probably went to the statistics page and initially evaluated the guards based on their pancakes (Where Log led the league). If you dig a little deeper you can base it on pancakes per play (Where Log was second). If that left you dissatisfied you could look at the guards' offense's production, where Tallahassee was clearly number one. Now what I'm missing is you must have gone to another source of information to conclude that Mckenzie was one of two who "dominated the pancake scene.... and there is no one i would pick over them". What led you to pick Mckenzie over Pincher, who in every objective measure I can identify had superior production? Is there something you see that I don't?

Not trying to pick a fight - I'm just wondering if there's something I'm missing altogether. As a center he should probably not be the all-conference guard anyways, unless he lined up out of position.

Originally posted by Whatsdafus
my picks are much better....

- Bangs McCoy, 105 more snaps... only 9 more pancakes... wow. Matty Birk is better

- Crne Quam VS Jack Brimmstone. 98 pancakes to 75.. big difference BUT 943 to 655 is a bigger difference. Just cause i didnt pick your own player, doesnt mean you need to get all pissy. Jack Brimmstone is better

- Trykon Krelfor vs Malcolm McPancake 75 to 71 pancakes close one. BUT 974 to 786 isnt. Malcolm McPancake is better.

Your picking Matty Birk over Bangs McCoy because he has more snaps (and gave up less sacks)??? Your argument over number of pancakes is a little off because Matty pancaked his man 6.9% of the time while Bangs did it 7.0% against the same competition.

I will post my ballot I sent in. I must admit I got a little lazy looking up the defensive statistics because it was hard to judge the amount of plays vs production and it was too time consuming.

QB1- Big Tuna
QB2- Dean Cochran

HB1- Chris Whaley
HB2- Renegade Nole

FB1- Eric Wolfe
FB2- Ash Night

WR1- Wayne Weezy
WR2- Jimmy Tuner
WR3- Molasses January

TE1- Leon Phoenix 621 Yards over 10 per catch and 5 TDs, nuff said.
TE2- Dallas Witten

OT1- Trykon Krelfor
OT2- John Johnston
OT3- President Kang

OG1- Log Pincher
OG2- Steven McKenzie
OG3- Crne Quam

C1- Bangs McCoy
C2- Matty Birk



DT1-
DT2-

NT1- Jake Rock
NT2- Rodrique Wright

DE1- Nitsud Skraps
DE2- peter Boulware
DE3- Drunken McScotch

MLB1- Gregory Aiossa
MLB2-
MLB3-

ROLB1-Scott Badalamenti
ROLB2- Warrick Wolfe
ROLB3-

LOLB1- Tort Feasor
LOLB2- Nasty Nigel
LOLB3-

CB1- Kimbo Harding
CB2- Evil Deon
CB3- Shiner Bock

FS1- Kyle Sexton
FS2- Rodney Williams

SS1- Ford Harper
SS2-

QB1- Big Tuna
QB2- Dean Cochran

HB1- Renegade Nole
HB2- ChrisHodges MitchellWhaley

FB1- Eric Wolfe
FB2- JJJ

WR1- Big Jimmy Turner
WR2- Nacho Papa
WR3- Wayne Weeze

TE1- Dallas Witten
TE2- Leon Phoenix

OT1- Kevin Pierpoint
OT2- Trykon Krelfor
OT3- One Fat Bastard

OG1- Log Pincher
OG2- Quam
OG3-Jack Brimmstone

C1- McKenzie
C2-



DT1 Conerry
DT2-

NT1-- jake rock
NT2- Rod Wright

DE1- Boulware
DE2- Skrapps
DE3-

CB1- Evil Deon
CB2- Kimbo Harding
CB3- Shiner Bock

FS1- Rod Williams
FS2- Kyle sex

SS1- Roy Willy Will Die
SS2- Ford Harper

Originally posted by BuddyHorn

C1- McKenzie
C2-







LOL I know that was not an intentional diss to Bangs McCoy because you have a lot of other Seminoles selected. I do not see a clear biased, but it is funny that you didnt even list a 2nd teamer considering the context of the posts above.

There are reasons they do this in secret ballots I suppose...

Originally posted by otmalize

There are reasons they do this in secret ballots I suppose...

Yeah - you might get jealous agents demanding explanations why their players aren't picked

Just remember, that stats don't tell the whole story, especially for O-Lineman. I'm not sure how telling this is, but the four "Top Player Threats" for the Stonecutters are all members of the Offensive Line. None of those four are Steven McKenzie. Now, the Top Player Threats might not mean that much, but it's still something to consider.

For the record, I own Steven McKenzie, and I appreciate all the votes of confidence you have shown him and the rest of the Stonecutters. Stonecutters aren't in GLB for individual awards, but it's always nice to be recognized!

Stonecutters Unite!

Originally posted by redwolfe11
Originally posted by BuddyHorn


C1- McKenzie
C2-







LOL I know that was not an intentional diss to Bangs McCoy because you have a lot of other Seminoles selected. I do not see a clear biased, but it is funny that you didnt even list a 2nd teamer considering the context of the posts above.


Actually I dont know what happened half my list is missing. I think im having issues with open office again.