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cerneo u need to stop hating on us and our 4 game win streak

Originally posted by BuddyHorn
Hey hows it going? no, my house has had a fire and I have to spend my money on recovery. We have lost every thing. Wish I could, but this has been a pain.

Shit man,

Hope you and your family pull through. I have seen what a house fire can do to a family its not pretty.

Originally posted by Spar10sby13
I really thought we could pull off this upset....but to no avail.

Congrats Steel-Heads, nice game!

14-0....couldn't even get to field goal range...that just burns me!!!


Good game D.C.

You see every game is tough. I just got home and I'm checking my team.

MID SEASON NOMINATIONS FOR ALL A1 -- OFFENSE

THIS IS FOR BOTH EAST AND WEST

QB--
JOHN UTAH- QB RATING 75.4, 1933 yds, 14 td's, 14 int's
RAG ARM- QB RATING 94.8, 1572 yds, 11 td's, 4 int's
JERRY SNELL- QB RATING 90.5, 1747 yds, 14 td's, 5 int's
JIMMY GUNN- QB RATING 85.9, 1448.5 yds, 13 td's, 6 int's
BIG TUNA- QB RATING 105.4, 1394.5 yds, 18 td's, 1 int's
DEAN COCHRAN- QB RATING 74.4, 1920 yds, 13 td's, 10 int's

RB--
E.SMITH-1137 yds, 10 td's
ADRIAN "AD" PETERSON- 967 yds, 13 td's
ROBERT ROSS- 641.5 yds, 15 td's
DEANO POWERHOUSE-744.5 yds, 7 td's
HODGES MITCHELL- 626.5 yds, 10 td's

WR--
DR.TRAN- 78 catches, 860 yds, 9 td's, 11 yds/catch
JIMMY TURNER- 56 catches, 610.5 yds, 5 td's, 10.9 yds/catch
CONNOR KING- 35 catches, 556 yds, 6 td's, 15.9 yds/catch
WAYNE WEEZE- 44 catches, 478 yds, 6 td's, 10.9 yds/catch
NACHO PAPPA- 51 catches, 542 yds, 3 td's, 10.6 yds/catch

CENTER--
GETURHANDS OUTFROMUNDERMYBUTT- 61 pancakes
STEVE MCKENZIE- 53 pancakes
COOL MAN WOOT- 41 pancakes
MATTY BIRK- 37 pancakes
CRABBY MCNEIL- 33 pancakes

GUARD-
VLADIMIR PJOTSKOBITCH- 84 pancakes
MOE FATNESS- 54 pancakes
JOE FATNESS- 51 pancakes
BOSS GRADER- 46 pancakes
LOG PINCHER- 44 pancakes

TACKLE-
IMA HOG- 59 pancakes
QASIM MITCHELL- 55 pancakes
B. WALL- 55 pancakes
MAUL URASS- 51 pancakes
LEVI BROWN- 47 pancakes


Feel free to add others to the list, this is just my opinion.

Originally posted by Whatsdafus
Originally posted by jearly

Originally posted by Whatsdafus


Originally posted by jearly



Originally posted by Whatsdafus




Cerneo, i say you do a protest and boycott making your Predictions for every weeks games until some last ass gets on his PC and does a spreadsheet for power rankings. why should you bust your ass for 30 minutes writing em up when no one else will?

no thanks. I'm in leagues where people do that formula and its completely jacked... we were the #5 team and we beat the a top 8 team by 30 points, but we fell to #6. The team that passed us barely beat a crappy 2-5 team.

LOL did they have a better record? did they blow out the teams they played... Ranking is done on overall work... not just what you did this week

no, we have a better record and the team we beat had a better record than the team they beat.

obviously its done on overall work - that's why were #5 before we played a ranked team and they were #6. Us beating a ranked team by more points than they beat a crappy team would only enhance our resume more than theirs.

Its a formula and formula's will have problems - look at how many people bitch about the BCS and that's way more complicated than the xcel formula you've put forth.

Also - if we put your math formula in and it came out with NY being better, there would just be bitching and moaning that the results are screwed because NY plays "weaker competition"...

Sorry man, a math formula won't work either because it will only measure a team's ability vs. its conference so you would get a "relative" idea of team's strength in its conference but no idea how good NY is compared to Omaha.

Not true... look at the BCS, you lose a game your gonna fall. you win you stay the same or go up

In your case you lost.

Uh. Yeah. Because LSU had 2 losses going into the MNC. Right...

Originally posted by lawdawg95
Originally posted by BuddyHorn

This list just proves one thing I have always suspected. Game plans are just as important as talent.

I wish someone had told Franchione of this little nugget of info.

I laughed out loud! Fran needs a stache!

The BCS is pure voodoo witchdoctory stuff.

The Sphere just keeps getting better every week.

ok!!! Scarpped that old power rankings. I made a formula (that me and a few math nerds worked on) that includes backups. i tested it out and it works. i like it a hell of alot more then just the starters. So when i get home after work and doing the mothers day stuff with my family i will begin to plug in the #'s.

There are a few things to know.

- Since alot of teams like to keep different amounts of players for different positions, some backups wont be counted. so if you have 4 TE's, dont expect to be rated that deep. We had to make a limit on the backups to include cause one not everyone has 8 hb's and 2 im already plugging in a shit ton of stats for this to work. I dont need to do this for 3 hours every 2 days for a power ranking on a game.
- The old formula rated a team on 22 positions. This formula will base a team off of 44 positions. To me that gives a deeper indicator of what a team is really putting on the field. On the avg team 1st stringers see about 50 snaps, 2nd stringers will see anywhere from 30 to 40. so we took that into account.

- For this formula, these are the positions that will count.

Offensive - QB1, QB2, HB1, HB2, FB1, FB2, WR1, WR2, WR3, WR4, TE1, TE2, C1, C2, LOT1, LOT2, ROT1, ROT2, LG1, LG2, RG1, RG2.

Defensive - NT1, NT2, DT1, DT2, LDE1, LDE2, RDE1, RDE2, MLB1, MLB2, LOLB1, LOLB2, ROLB1, ROLB2, CB1, CB2, CB3, CB4, FS1, FS2, SS1, SS2.

So with a TON of teams to get data from and do the formula in their backet, i should (hoping) have these ready before our games tomorrow.

Originally posted by Whatsdafus
ok!!! Scarpped that old power rankings. I made a formula (that me and a few math nerds worked on) that includes backups. i tested it out and it works. i like it a hell of alot more then just the starters. So when i get home after work and doing the mothers day stuff with my family i will begin to plug in the #'s.

There are a few things to know.

- Since alot of teams like to keep different amounts of players for different positions, some backups wont be counted. so if you have 4 TE's, dont expect to be rated that deep. We had to make a limit on the backups to include cause one not everyone has 8 hb's and 2 im already plugging in a shit ton of stats for this to work. I dont need to do this for 3 hours every 2 days for a power ranking on a game.
- The old formula rated a team on 22 positions. This formula will base a team off of 44 positions. To me that gives a deeper indicator of what a team is really putting on the field. On the avg team 1st stringers see about 50 snaps, 2nd stringers will see anywhere from 30 to 40. so we took that into account.

- For this formula, these are the positions that will count.

Offensive - QB1, QB2, HB1, HB2, FB1, FB2, WR1, WR2, WR3, WR4, TE1, TE2, C1, C2, LOT1, LOT2, ROT1, ROT2, LG1, LG2, RG1, RG2.

Defensive - NT1, NT2, DT1, DT2, LDE1, LDE2, RDE1, RDE2, MLB1, MLB2, LOLB1, LOLB2, ROLB1, ROLB2, CB1, CB2, CB3, CB4, FS1, FS2, SS1, SS2.

So with a TON of teams to get data from and do the formula in their backet, i should (hoping) have these ready before our games tomorrow.

Good luck, great job doing these.

Originally posted by Whatsdafus
ok!!! Scarpped that old power rankings. I made a formula (that me and a few math nerds worked on) that includes backups. i tested it out and it works. i like it a hell of alot more then just the starters. So when i get home after work and doing the mothers day stuff with my family i will begin to plug in the #'s.

There are a few things to know.

- Since alot of teams like to keep different amounts of players for different positions, some backups wont be counted. so if you have 4 TE's, dont expect to be rated that deep. We had to make a limit on the backups to include cause one not everyone has 8 hb's and 2 im already plugging in a shit ton of stats for this to work. I dont need to do this for 3 hours every 2 days for a power ranking on a game.
- The old formula rated a team on 22 positions. This formula will base a team off of 44 positions. To me that gives a deeper indicator of what a team is really putting on the field. On the avg team 1st stringers see about 50 snaps, 2nd stringers will see anywhere from 30 to 40. so we took that into account.

- For this formula, these are the positions that will count.

Offensive - QB1, QB2, HB1, HB2, FB1, FB2, WR1, WR2, WR3, WR4, TE1, TE2, C1, C2, LOT1, LOT2, ROT1, ROT2, LG1, LG2, RG1, RG2.

Defensive - NT1, NT2, DT1, DT2, LDE1, LDE2, RDE1, RDE2, MLB1, MLB2, LOLB1, LOLB2, ROLB1, ROLB2, CB1, CB2, CB3, CB4, FS1, FS2, SS1, SS2.

So with a TON of teams to get data from and do the formula in their backet, i should (hoping) have these ready before our games tomorrow.

Nice Work! I think this will give a much better ranking.

A questions I eluded to in a previous post...

based on your post I will make an example. You will take LOT1, LOT2, ROT1, ROT2, which works perfectly if a team has 4 offensive tackles all listed that way on the depth chart. However it is pretty common for a team to have 3 OTs and LOT2 and ROT2 would be the same player. THerefore you would be counting one player twice in your calculations.

I am not sure exactly how to work around that aspect in a fair way. Depending on how many snaps an offense plays, having 1 extra body to rotate is plenty to keep everyone fresh. However a team that has a true "2 deep" should get a little higher ranking over a team one with utility man.

What do you think?

Originally posted by Whatsdafus
ok!!! Scarpped that old power rankings. I made a formula (that me and a few math nerds worked on) that includes backups. i tested it out and it works. i like it a hell of alot more then just the starters. So when i get home after work and doing the mothers day stuff with my family i will begin to plug in the #'s.

There are a few things to know.

- Since alot of teams like to keep different amounts of players for different positions, some backups wont be counted. so if you have 4 TE's, dont expect to be rated that deep. We had to make a limit on the backups to include cause one not everyone has 8 hb's and 2 im already plugging in a shit ton of stats for this to work. I dont need to do this for 3 hours every 2 days for a power ranking on a game.
- The old formula rated a team on 22 positions. This formula will base a team off of 44 positions. To me that gives a deeper indicator of what a team is really putting on the field. On the avg team 1st stringers see about 50 snaps, 2nd stringers will see anywhere from 30 to 40. so we took that into account.

- For this formula, these are the positions that will count.

Offensive - QB1, QB2, HB1, HB2, FB1, FB2, WR1, WR2, WR3, WR4, TE1, TE2, C1, C2, LOT1, LOT2, ROT1, ROT2, LG1, LG2, RG1, RG2.

Defensive - NT1, NT2, DT1, DT2, LDE1, LDE2, RDE1, RDE2, MLB1, MLB2, LOLB1, LOLB2, ROLB1, ROLB2, CB1, CB2, CB3, CB4, FS1, FS2, SS1, SS2.

So with a TON of teams to get data from and do the formula in their backet, i should (hoping) have these ready before our games tomorrow.

How about if we take into consideration the attributes important for that position (ie for a QB, strength, throwing, vision...etc..)

I think everyone should allow their attributes to be seen by all so we can get a better idea who is really the best and we can get proper power rankings!!



btw...the D.C. Warriors will go ahead and excuse themselves from the power rankings

Originally posted by blackplague
MID SEASON NOMINATIONS FOR ALL A1 -- OFFENSE

THIS IS FOR BOTH EAST AND WEST

QB--

RB--

WR--

CENTER--

GUARD-

TACKLE-



Feel free to add others to the list, this is just my opinion.

I think its a mistake to go by stats alone, alot of these are in games where one team is vastly over matched.

You best bet would simply be to check the hard games and find good players that was, thats what I did for them last year.

Originally posted by Cerneo
Originally posted by blackplague

MID SEASON NOMINATIONS FOR ALL A1 -- OFFENSE

THIS IS FOR BOTH EAST AND WEST

QB--

RB--

WR--

CENTER--

GUARD-

TACKLE-



Feel free to add others to the list, this is just my opinion.

I think its a mistake to go by stats alone, alot of these are in games where one team is vastly over matched.

You best bet would simply be to check the hard games and find good players that was, thats what I did for them last year.

How do you think it's done in real life? Last time I checked, they go by stats no matter who the opponent was.

That was one hell of a game, Orlando!

I'm so proud of our defense for keeping your potent offensive attack from scoring TDs. I have a feeling we will meet again...