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RayRay99
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I could give 2 shits about who makes the NFL, I care about results in college, which does not equate to success in the pros all of the time. Guys make the NFL from college all of the time based on raw athleticism, not how well they were coached up.

I said we played superior competition. That is not an opinion, it is fact. We played more ranked teams and had the 6th toughest SOS in the country according to Sagarin

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Despite this, we finished 2 games better than the sips, who ended the season humiliated by the worst teams in the SEC West.

In the article I posted, tu is listed up there because of the number of high end recruits they had on roster, not what they did with them. It says that 5* teams like the sips should have won the percentage listed against teams of a lower ilk.

Extraoplating that, this is how the sips fared in 2014:

5* teams - Expected: .500, Actual - .000
4* teams - Expected: .662, Actual - .000
3* teams - Expected: .695, Actual - .600
2* teams - Expected: .870, Actual - .500
1* teams - Expected: .917, Actual - .666

Here is A&M:

5* teams - Expected: .338, Actual - .333
4* teams - Expected: .500, Actual - .667
3* teams - Expected: .625, Actual - .333
2* teams - Expected: .754, Actual - N/A
1* teams - Expected: .754, Actual - 1.00

The Ags did 1 game wose than expected against 3* teams, but did 1 game better against 4* teams as expected for the rest.

The sips did worse against every level.

I am not sure why you think my evidence is incoherent, as I clearly point out the facts and break down numbers in an orderly fashion so you can follow along. I guess I assumed too much since all you seemed to post is "lololol Aggy is dumb, we are better."

If you want cold, hard facts, look at this:

2014 - Ags 8-5, sips 6-7
2013- Ags 9-4, sips 8-5
2012 - Ags 11-2, sips 9-4

Inferior conference, yet still an inferior record. Stop living in 2005, y'all suck.

 
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The only reliable metric of how much star-rated players improve in college is who makes the NFL. All of your other babbling is just that.

Your own source says that Texas is a 5-star program and ags a lowly 4-star program.

Your own source looks at recent years and says Texas outplayed ags. It says there are only 5 outlier schools, none of which are Texas or ags.

You like to look at who initially committed to a school with no adjustment for players that didn't actually stay in that program because it allows you to massage selected data points - if there was a coaching change in Texas during that time and a lot of the star-rated players transferred or were cut or injured, you get to ignore all of that with your approach and then pick some of the least representative data points and time periods to create confusion. But in the end we all see you are nothing but smoke and mirrors.

Players that go to Texas have a better than average likelihood to go on to the NFL, while losers who go to ags have a worse than average likelihood of going on to the NFL, which confirms what your source says that Texas has a better program.

 
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Nothing you are stating is factual. It is like you are literally pulling it out of your ass.

If you are looking at the NFL, we have more draft picks than y'all since 2011, including 3 first rounders last draft while tu failed to have a single player drafted.

Please show where in the article it said anything about tu outplaying A&M.

We had a coaching change too genius, the only difference is we went 11-2 and finished 5th in the country in the SEC Sumlin's first year while Chobbit went 6-7 in the Big XII and got rolled in their bowl game by Arkansas.

Once again you are spouting opinions not based in reality.

 
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Actually everything I say is supported by facts. Your own sources in many cases, for instance.

The only reliable metric of how much star-rated players improve in college is who makes the NFL. Learn to read. It's fundamental. Making it in the NFL doesn't mean just get drafted. Heck even scrub drug addicts like Manziel can sometimes get some idiot to take them in the draft. ESPN, which lists current NFL players by college, shows 37 former UT players currently in the NFL, 28% more than ags have in the league.

And since Charlie Strong transferred to UT last season it makes this year's draft very non-representative anyway. Former UT player Garrett Gilbert was drafted, as were 4 players that Charlie Strong coached at Louisville, including 3 in the first round. And none of those were drug addict discipline problems who refuse to study their playbooks like the ags, especially Manziel.

Your own source says that Texas is a 5-star program and ags a lowly 4-star program.

Your own source looks at recent years and says Texas outplayed ags. How does it say this? It says that all the 5-star programs outplayed all the 4-star programs and says there are only 5 schools which are exceptions to the general rule, and none of which are Texas or ags. I know this requires you to follow logic, and I know basic logic is more advanced than any ags can hope to follow. Those of us who went to real schools feel sorry for your lack of education.

You like to look at who initially committed to a school with no adjustment for players that didn't actually stay in that program because it allows you to massage selected data points - if there was a coaching change in Texas during that time and a lot of the star-rated players transferred or were cut or injured, you get to ignore all of that with your approach and then pick some of the least representative data points and time periods to create confusion. An example is your latest blather where you assert that every coaching change is equal, because you do no actual analysis of the relative number of star-rated players that were lost due to various reasons during these coaching changes. But in the end we all see you are nothing but smoke and mirrors.

Players that go to Texas have a better than average likelihood to go on to the NFL, while losers who go to ags have a worse than average likelihood of going on to the NFL, which confirms what your source says that Texas has a better program.
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RayRay99
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What matters is results on the field. We are better against better competition. Please address this point or kindly STFU. By the way, there is no way in hell you are a graduate of tu, just a tshirt fan like LHF. It is obvious in the way you post, and the insinuation that Ags are dumb or have a lesser education is rhetoric and takes away from any point you are trying to make.
 
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http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Ags > sips at bouncy ball too
 
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It's time for March Madness....
 
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Originally posted by RayRay99
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Ags > sips at bouncy ball too
 
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Ags - 21-11 (11-7 conference)
sips - 20-13 (8-10 conference)

We lost winnable games down the stretch with out best player injured, we are still better at full strength.
 
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Oh, and nice loss to UTA in baseball last night

A&M - 22-0
sips - 13-8
 
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BTW, just because we are promoting doesn't mean this thread is going to die
 
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A look at 2016 recruiting:

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

My first thought is that Al Golden has given up on Miami, why else do you basically fill up your commit list with 3* players this early in the game? Granted they have a good number of 4*s this early as well, but if you were confident you could get better players you wouldn't have 12 3*s lined up already.
 
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Originally posted by ESPN
AUSTIN, Texas -- The $600,000 question at Texas is just who calls the plays for the Longhorns' anemic offense.

Assistant head coach Shawn Watson says he does. Offensive coordinator Joe Wickline says he does too. In fact, they swear they share.

And head coach Charlie Strong? Well, he says they both do, "And I'm on the headset."

But when asked who called most of the plays in a 31-7 bowl game thrashing by Arkansas, when Texas managed just 59 total yards, Strong said, "I don't know."


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12652460/texas-longhorns-coaches-swear-depositions-share-play-calling-duties

How the hell does a head coach not know who is calling his offensive play calls in a game? Either he is an absolute moron, perjured himself, or both.
 
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Cedric Ogbuehi was drafted in the 1st round of the NFL Draft, making five consecutive years A&M has had at least one player selected in the first round. No other Texas university has completed such a feat.
 
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Texas had 5 players drafted, the most of any team in Texas and over double the number of A&M players drafted. Charlie Strong had 16 total players drafted, the most of any coach. 45% of Strong's first recruiting class at Louisville has been drafted, even though the class only had four 4 star recruits and zero 5 star recruits. Of the 11 Louisville players drafted this year, only two were above three stars. Clearly Strong can evaluate and develop talent. Let's see what will happen with his first Texas class, which consists of a majority of 4 and 5 star recruits. The future looks bright.

The two aggies drafted were the last of Mike Sherman's offensive line recruits. Sumlin has done worse every year as players he recruited and developed are becoming a larger portion of the team. Let's see how he does when he doesn't have Manziel or Sherman's offensive line to lean on. The future doesn't look bright.
 
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