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Originally posted by RayRay99
2014 Bowl Record:

ACC: 4-7
Big 12-1-1-2+1+1: 2-5

SEC: 7-5



ACC was underrated I think...most thought they would win 1-2 games...lol, it sucks.

I see you conveniently left off the Pac 12...
 
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I'll also rehash this:

2013 Bowls
SEC managed to have 4 top 10 teams going into the bowl games.
AU - 2
AL - 3
Miz - 8
USC - 9

#2 Auburn LOST to a higher ranked team
#3 Alabama LOST to a lower ranked team #11 OK
#8 Missouri WON against a lower ranked team #13 OK ST
#9 USC WON against a lower ranked team #19 WISC

2014 Bowls
SEC managed to have 3 top 10 teams going into the bowl games. EVERYONE of them lost...
AL - 1
Miss St - 7
Ole Miss - 9

#1 Alabama LOSTto #4
#7 Miss St. LOST to #12
#9 Ole Miss LOSTto #6

So in 2 seasons...if you want to see more, post them, I didn't leave any out for reasons other than time....the SEC had 7 teams ranked in the top 10 of the CFB bowls. Of those teams, they went 2-5.

So you think 2-5 in top 10 bowl games is acceptable? It's easy to say "yay, we had 7 teams ranked in the top 10" when you overlook the fact that the SEC gets overrated. If they rated them fairly, they would be as average as anyone else. Being rated high and being able to back up that rating with convincing wins are not equivalent.
Edited by mwoods07 on Jan 6, 2015 11:06:40
 
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Originally posted by mwoods07
I'll also rehash this:

2013 Bowls
SEC managed to have 4 top 10 teams going into the bowl games.
AU - 2
AL - 3
Miz - 8
USC - 9

#2 Auburn LOST to a higher ranked team
#3 Alabama LOST to a lower ranked team #11 OK
#8 Missouri WON against a lower ranked team #13 OK ST
#9 USC WON against a lower ranked team #19 WISC

2014 Bowls
SEC managed to have 3 top 10 teams going into the bowl games. EVERYONE of them lost...
AL - 1
Miss St - 7
Ole Miss - 9

#1 Alabama LOSTto #4
#7 Miss St. LOST to #12
#9 Ole Miss LOSTto #6

So in 2 seasons...if you want to see more, post them, I didn't leave any out for reasons other than time....the SEC had 7 teams ranked in the top 10 of the CFB bowls. Of those teams, they went 2-5.

So you think 2-5 in top 10 bowl games is acceptable? It's easy to say "yay, we had 7 teams ranked in the top 10" when you overlook the fact that the SEC gets overrated. If they rated them fairly, they would be as average as anyone else. Being rated high and being able to back up that rating with convincing wins are not equivalent.


Oh, and of those 2 wins, they played teams almost twice their rank below them...not their fault, but calling a win against a team well outside the top 10 when you are in the top 10 convincing doesn't fly to me...
 
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Pac12, whether Oregon wins or loses, is clearly the best conference this season.
Also, the Pac12 was arguably the best last season and they have proved it on the field.
 
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Pac12, whether Oregon wins or loses, is clearly the best conference this season.
Also, the Pac12 was arguably the best last season and they have proved it on the field.


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Originally posted by AAS
Texas athletic director Steve Patterson has insisted for months that the athletic department does not have as much money as everyone thinks.

He's right. The Longhorns are now operating in the red.

"I think we're still healthy," UT athletic director Steve Patterson says.

The UT athletic department lost money during the 2013-14 academic year, according to an audited financial statement obtained by the American-Statesman through an open records request.

The actual shortfall was negligible by Texas' standards about $2.8 million. Still, it's the first time the department has lost money since the 1999-2000 academic year.

...

Specifically examining Texas athletics, football ticket sales remained the same, approximately $34 million from one year to the next. But men's and women's basketball and baseball ticket sales all declined.

The department also incurred a one-time charge of $4.375 million to buy out Charlie Strong's contract at Louisville. That money came straight from reserves and not the operating budget, Patterson said, dropping the overall reserve total to about $35 million currently.

Former coach Mack Brown received a $2.75 million severance package, but the payout is structured over four years. Brown also received a $500,000 one-year payment to become a special assistant to the president, an arrangement Patterson said will continue in 2015.


http://www.mystatesman.com/news/sports/college/texas-athletics-finished-2013-14-school-year-28-mi/njkqz/?ecmp=statesman_social_facebook_2014_sfp#3787265d.3585732.735608

Y'all WERE the Joneses.
Edited by RayRay99 on Jan 11, 2015 05:44:50
 
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Originally posted by mwoods07
I'll also rehash this:

2013 Bowls
SEC managed to have 4 top 10 teams going into the bowl games.
AU - 2
AL - 3
Miz - 8
USC - 9

#2 Auburn LOST to a higher ranked team
#3 Alabama LOST to a lower ranked team #11 OK
#8 Missouri WON against a lower ranked team #13 OK ST
#9 USC WON against a lower ranked team #19 WISC

2014 Bowls
SEC managed to have 3 top 10 teams going into the bowl games. EVERYONE of them lost...
AL - 1
Miss St - 7
Ole Miss - 9

#1 Alabama LOSTto #4
#7 Miss St. LOST to #12
#9 Ole Miss LOSTto #6

So in 2 seasons...if you want to see more, post them, I didn't leave any out for reasons other than time....the SEC had 7 teams ranked in the top 10 of the CFB bowls. Of those teams, they went 2-5.

So you think 2-5 in top 10 bowl games is acceptable? It's easy to say "yay, we had 7 teams ranked in the top 10" when you overlook the fact that the SEC gets overrated. If they rated them fairly, they would be as average as anyone else. Being rated high and being able to back up that rating with convincing wins are not equivalent.


The top of the SEC underachieved in bowls this year no doubt, but adding this season to last season when the high ranked teams were 2-2 is just trying to fluff it up to make it a *trend*

Overall this year, the SEC went 7-5 in bowls, and was the only Big 5 conference besides the PAC with a winning bowl record. The SEC West went 28-0 in non-conference regular season, with wins against Wisconsin, Kansas St, Boise St., and West Virginia.

The reason the SEC is better than everyone else comes down to a few factors:

1. Recruiting: Duh. The dominance of the SEC in recruiting is undeniable. Looking at the 2015 class that will sign next month, the breakdown is as follows:

5 Stars:
SEC - 14
Everyone Else - 13

4 Stars:
SEC - 104
Everyone Else - 165

Average per team:
SEC 5 Stars - 1.0 per team
All other teams - .11 per team

SEC 4 Stars - 7.4 per team
All other teams - 1.3 per team

This is without some of the highly rated recruits committing yet, and the SEC should be snatching many of them as well. The SEC currently has 5 of the top 10 rated recruiting classes, and all 7 SEC West teams are in the top 24.

2. Money: With the SEC Network online, even the poorer schools will be able to upgrade their programs. While that does not really affect the big schools in the SEC much, it will make them more attractive to athletes thinking about schools in other conferences.

3. Perception: While this post-season tarnished it a bit, the SEC has still clearly been the best conference since many of these kids started playing football. When you grow up watching the SEC dominate continually, it is going to stick with you.

4. Location: The vast majority of 5* recruits grow up in the SEC blueprint, or in the South. A visual reminder of this can be found on the interactive map here: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/2/20/5409336/college-football-recruiting-map-regions Those recruits grew up watching and cheering for SEC teams, and want to stay close to home, so they remain in the SEC.

This is why the SEC is not overrated. There will be outlying post seasons like this year, but overall the momentum gained the past decade is sustainable, and will continue giving the SEC a sizeable advantage every year as a whole. There are great teams in every conference, but they will only have one or two top tier teams in reality while the SEC will have 7 or 8. Arkansas went 2-6 in conference play but went 2-0 against the Big XII with an average margin of victory of 23 points. That is our bottom feeder.
 
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Start watching around the 1:40 mark to see Malik Jefferson talk about how the 12th Man is the greatest tradition he has ever seen. It is a shame he let his parents dictate where he went to school.
 
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Originally posted by @The Kyler Murray
Following my heart... #GigEm


 
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looks like Texas is smacking A&M around today on signing day?
 
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Now that the season and signing day are over, I think it would be a good idea to visit the whole "we run this state" manta that the aggies have been spewing. What goes into running this state? Well it can't be on the field success because Baylor and TCU have aggie beat there. It can't be recruiting success because Texas has the highest rated class in the state. Texas also has the highest rated class in the Big 12 whereas A&M is 4th in the SEC West (hurr durr, we tha best until bowl games).

Here is a list of some things that aggie doesn't have when it comes to running this state:
Best current team (TCU)
Best recruiting class (Texas)
Most wins (Texas)
Most championships (Texas)
Most conference championships (Texas)
Most division titles (Texas)
Most recent championship (Texas)
Most recent conference championship (Baylor/TCU)
Most recent division title (Baylor/TCU)
Most bowl wins (Texas (also the only team with a winning bowl record))
Most BCS bowl wins (Texas)
Head to Head record (Texas)
Most NFL players (Texas)
Hottest cheerleaders (Texas or TCU, but definitely not aggie)
Most money (Texas)
Best academics overall (Texas or Rice)
Best academics for a public (Texas)
Governor (Texas)
Most distinguished military alumnus/man who designed the raid that killed Osama (Texas)

So what does aggie have? Let's see:

Most mugshots
Most sheep fucked
Most glory holes
Most football alums in rehab
Most instances of cheating
Most jizz jars
Most cheerleaders who look like milk men
Most instances of hiding behind the skirt of their conference mates because they can't tout their own success
Most alcohol consumed on a daily basis by a head coach
Most deluded fan base
Longest time since a championship

aggie, you can claim to run this state all you want, but you will never be anything more than little brother who will have a few flash in the pan seasons of success littered amongst the morass of mediocrity that is your team's history. You may claim to run this state, but we own this state. We. Are. Texas.


Edited by Longhornfan1024 on Feb 4, 2015 12:35:45
 
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LHF hiding behind TCU and Baylor skirts, how pathetic

Let's look at the recruiting classes: The sips ended up 11th, we ended up 12th. They signed 4 more kids than we did, which is why they are currently higher. I say currently, because we still have Roquan Smith on the board, who if signed will bump us to 9th. We signed 2 more 5 star recruits than them and 2 less 4 stars. We signed the greatest QB in Texas High School Football history, while they signed a "QB" that only went there because the sips were the only one that would give him a shot at QB, everyone else was recruiting him as a WR/ATH. They have no QB, whiffed on recruiting one, got trounced in head to head recruiting matchups against A&M and are crowing that they had a better class

I like how everything in the list LHF threw up had to do with either 1) Schools not tu, 2) Things that happened a decade or more ago, 3) Things that have nothing to do with football.

The fact of that matter is that since A&M joined the SEC, we have been better in every facet than the sips.

Better record - Texas A&M
Better conference - Texas A&M
Better recruiting - Texas A&M
Better facilities - Texas A&M

Your wins this season were over teams with a combined 27-47 record, and the best win finished the season 7-6. Your team finished 109th in offense, which makes your offense significantly worse than our pathetic defense, which finished 77th. There is not a QB on the roster worth a damn, and y'all whiffed on an impact QB, which means you will be in the same position next season, fighting to reach .500 in the worst Big 5 conference. A&M has a favorable schedule and will have an upgraded defense under Chavis. 9 wins is the minimum, 10 likely.

 
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Originally posted by RayRay99
LHF hiding behind TCU and Baylor skirts, how pathetic

Let's look at the recruiting classes: The sips ended up 11th, we ended up 12th. They signed 4 more kids than we did, which is why they are currently higher. I say currently, because we still have Roquan Smith on the board, who if signed will bump us to 9th. We signed 2 more 5 star recruits than them and 2 less 4 stars. We signed the greatest QB in Texas High School Football history, while they signed a "QB" that only went there because the sips were the only one that would give him a shot at QB, everyone else was recruiting him as a WR/ATH. They have no QB, whiffed on recruiting one, got trounced in head to head recruiting matchups against A&M and are crowing that they had a better class

I like how everything in the list LHF threw up had to do with either 1) Schools not tu, 2) Things that happened a decade or more ago, 3) Things that have nothing to do with football.

The fact of that matter is that since A&M joined the SEC, we have been better in every facet than the sips.

Better record - Texas A&M
Better conference - Texas A&M
Better recruiting - Texas A&M
Better facilities - Texas A&M

Your wins this season were over teams with a combined 27-47 record, and the best win finished the season 7-6. Your team finished 109th in offense, which makes your offense significantly worse than our pathetic defense, which finished 77th. There is not a QB on the roster worth a damn, and y'all whiffed on an impact QB, which means you will be in the same position next season, fighting to reach .500 in the worst Big 5 conference. A&M has a favorable schedule and will have an upgraded defense under Chavis. 9 wins is the minimum, 10 likely.



I see you're regurgitating all the delusional nonsense you read on texags. Let's break this down.

TCU and Baylor may be ahead of Texas right now, but they are only experiencing a short period of success, just like A&M did for one season in 2012. Your response does nothing to show that A&M is somehow running this state. All you did was dodge the issue.

As to recruiting, we may have signed 4 more recruits than you, but they are still part of the class. I've never seen you argue quality vs. quantity when you claim #wrts based in part on a 2013 class where you signed 20 more recruits than we did and yet you only placed 8 spots in front of us.

You can call Kyler Murray the greatest QB in Texas High School Football History, but you fail to mention that he played for a powerhouse program that had only 1 loss in each of the three prior seasons (and two in the season before) with one state championship (it helps when you're one of the biggest high schools in Texas and you recruit kids to come play football). You also fail to mention that he's barely 5'10", 170 lbs, if that, and he will likely not even play a down of football for A&M since he has a 1st round baseball draft grade. In contrast, our QB is 6'3", 190 lbs, a 4 star QB, and also the son of a QB and Offensive Coordinator. He has the size, the ability, and comes with a high football IQ.

What your class doesn't have is any defense whatsoever outside of Daylon Mack. You struck out on your DB recruiting with Texas and Bama taking the recruits you wanted. And your LB class is a total joke. I'm sure Chavis will do really well there working for a coach with a horrible defensive record and no talent on that side of the ball. I'm sure he'll use his genius to come up with a brand new two-man defense to run with Garret and Mack. We'll call it the 2-0-0. I'm sure it will look better than the crap you've put on the field the prior three seasons.

You also tout head to head recruiting battles without any type of context. The majority of the recruits that Texas and aggie went head-to-head for were aggie commits or leans before Strong was even coach at Texas. Since Strong actually started recruiting in this class, Texas is 7-1 versus aggie for recruits who weren't already committed to A&M. Even if you include Kyler Murray, Strong is 7-2 vs. Sumlin.

In the end, your #wrts recruiting talk is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. aggie had a better recruiting class than Texas for two years, and in one of those years you only placed 8 spots in front of us despite having 20 more recruits and the other coincided with a coaching change. As I've said before, it was a flash in the pan and nothing more.

As for my list, the only thing it has to do with is 1) who runs this state. And aggie has no claim there. There is absolutely no claim aggie can make that they run this state. As with most things aggie, they are all hat and no cattle.

Edited by Longhornfan1024 on Feb 5, 2015 14:25:31
 
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You are right about Baylor and TCU being anomalies. They do not have the resources to sustain long-term. A&M does, which is why only A&M or Texas can ever run this state. Therefore, as I said:

Better record - Texas A&M
Better conference - Texas A&M
Better recruiting - Texas A&M
Better facilities - Texas A&M

#WRTS

As for the rest of your "arguments":

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


As to recruiting, we may have signed 4 more recruits than you, but they are still part of the class. I've never seen you argue quality vs. quantity when you claim #wrts based in part on a 2013 class where you signed 20 more recruits than we did and yet you only placed 8 spots in front of us.


Those 4 extra recruits were 3* kids, not elite talent. On the other hand, we signed 2 more 5* kids than you did. Lets look at average player rankings, which nullifies the bump from signing extra scrubs:

A&M - 9th
sips - 13th

There is no doubt your class is pretty good, but you whiffed at the most critical position.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
You can call Kyler Murray the greatest QB in Texas High School Football History, but you fail to mention that he played for a powerhouse program that had only 1 loss in each of the three prior seasons (and two in the season before) with one state championship (it helps when you're one of the biggest high schools in Texas and you recruit kids to come play football). You also fail to mention that he's barely 5'10", 170 lbs, if that, and he will likely not even play a down of football for A&M since he has a 1st round baseball draft grade. In contrast, our QB is 6'3", 190 lbs, a 4 star QB, and also the son of a QB and Offensive Coordinator. He has the size, the ability, and comes with a high football IQ.


We signed the number one QB in the country for the 2nd straight season. Y'all signed "the son of a QB and Offensive Coordinator" who was only being recruited to other major schools as a WR. Spin it however you want. If Kyler is too small, blah blah blah, then why did texas screw themselves over when they thought they had a shot at him, losing Gentry in the process? If Kyler has signed with texas, you would be crowing loudly, but since he shunned you as expected, he was only undefeated, won 3 straight Texas 6A state titles, and back to back national player of the year because his team was good.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
What your class doesn't have is any defense whatsoever outside of Daylon Mack. You struck out on your DB recruiting with Texas and Bama taking the recruits you wanted. And your LB class is a total joke. I'm sure Chavis will do really well there working for a coach with a horrible defensive record and no talent on that side of the ball. I'm sure he'll use his genius to come up with a brand new two-man defense to run with Garret and Mack. We'll call it the 2-0-0. I'm sure it will look better than the crap you've put on the field the prior three seasons.


DLs
A&M - 1 5* and 2 4*
tu - 0 4 or 5*

LBs
A&M - 0 4 or 5*
tu - 1 5* and 2 4*

DBs
A&M - 3 4*
tu - 3 4*

It looks like our defensive recruiting was even, with us having the advantage on the DL and you having the advantage at LB. This is with you having a salty defense and us having hot garbage the past 3 seasons on defense and firing our DC at the early signing period, which is the only reason you have Malik Jefferson to begin with. Let's compare offense now, where we have been good, and y'all have sucked:

OL
A&M - 3 4*
tu - 1 4*

WR/TE
A&M - 1 5* 2 4*
tu - 4 4*

RB/FB
A&M - 1 4*
tu - 1 4*

QB
A&M - 1 5*
tu - 1 "4*" (listed as athlete, not QB)

Basically where your offense is most deficient, OL and QB, you whiffed while we dominated there. Also, overall you have 3-4 grade risks that probably won't even make it in to school, so all of these numbers are inflated on your end anyway.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
You also tout head to head recruiting battles without any type of context. The majority of the recruits that Texas and aggie went head-to-head for were aggie commits or leans before Strong was even coach at Texas. Since Strong actually started recruiting in this class, Texas is 7-1 versus aggie for recruits who weren't already committed to A&M. Even if you include Kyler Murray, Strong is 7-2 vs. Sumlin.


I am pretty sure Strong started recruiting this class when he got the job. When Sumlin got hired, it was December of 2011. By signing day in February, he got us a sold recruiting class (average player ranking 90.47 compared to 90.03 for sips). You can't set the bar for recruiting wins based on when "Strong started recruiting in this class." We won 15-7 head to head:

A&M
Bradford
Davis
Dunning
Elam
Elbert
Evans
Keke
Kirk
Lanfear
Lockhart
Mack
Murray
Pryor
Siverand
Sutherland

tu
Boyd
Elliott
Hill
Jefferson
McNeal
Warren
Wheeler

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
In the end, your #wrts recruiting talk is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. aggie had a better recruiting class than Texas for two years, and in one of those years you only placed 8 spots in front of us despite having 20 more recruits and the other coincided with a coaching change. As I've said before, it was a flash in the pan and nothing more.

As for my list, the only thing it has to do with is 1) who runs this state. And aggie has no claim there. There is absolutely no claim aggie can make that they run this state. As with most things aggie, they are all hat and no cattle.


Everything I listed shows #WRTS. Please refute my arguments with facts instead of saying "lolol pooooor agggsies, nuh uh, we are better."

 
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