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StoutOne
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Originally posted by StoutOne
HB's are irrelevant, it's all about the Blocking.


I'm p sure about any HB would look halfway decent on my team.....luckily for us we have 2 of the best in the game.
 
Ahrens858
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hmm, with something like this soon to be tested, starting a HB now aiming towards this sort of build sounds like a good idea
 
Deathblade
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Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
So 100% Riskier / 100% Creative is = to what? Zig/Zagging like a batshit crazy person?


You mean Super Elusive? >_>
 
r87
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I know of a HB with 70 vision and otherwise unremarkable attributes and he is fairly dominant.
 
tautology
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Damn.

So is that something you're regretting? I'm guessing yes..


It's less than ideal, and he sort of sucks, but i don't really beat myself up over it. I don't think it's horrible.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by r87
I know of a HB with 70 vision and otherwise unremarkable attributes and he is fairly dominant.


at a high level?
 
TyrannyVaunt
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by tautology

Originally posted by Bukowski


deathblades has 77 with VAs.

But the highest I've seen on a upper-level RB, was about 68-70.


Iala Mane has natural vision of 65 or so, and I have tried him at 80.

(ouch!)


Damn.

So is that something you're regretting? I'm guessing yes..


I'm guessing in the current sim?
Yes.
In the future sim once vision actually works?
No.
 
Deathblade
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Originally posted by blln4lyf
Would it still emulate the power setting though, I am not sure the Safest route vs Riskier route really captures that, as it might lean towards elusives. That could be adjusted though, surely.


Even a powerback...why would they choose to not run at the angle that will get them the furthest downfield, untouched? I mean, why run 1 yard downfield into a defender, when you can turn slightly and go 2 yards downfield before running into that defender?
 
TyrannyVaunt
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt

So 100% Riskier / 100% Creative is = to what? Zig/Zagging like a batshit crazy person?


You mean Super Elusive? >_>


XD
 
tautology
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Originally posted by r87
I know of a HB with 70 vision and otherwise unremarkable attributes and he is fairly dominant.


Me too actually. But he's a freak of nature.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by Bukowski

Damn.

So is that something you're regretting? I'm guessing yes..


It's less than ideal, and he sort of sucks, but i don't really beat myself up over it. I don't think it's horrible.


There was a RB that was on Mayan that swore by it, but I really couldn't see the benefit.

But, if one was to build a pure fake build, then it would definitely be something to consider.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Even a powerback...why would they choose to not run at the angle that will get them the furthest downfield, untouched? I mean, why run 1 yard downfield into a defender, when you can turn slightly and go 2 yards downfield before running into that defender?


Yep, should be fine for PBs. They are easy enough, plot a course and hit the gas.
 
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Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
I'm guessing in the current sim?
Yes.
In the future sim once vision actually works?
No.


You have to ask yourself... what would more vision ACUTALLY do? Make you see holes better? With 60+ vision (I even find this at 48 vision on my Power HB) I already hit the hole fast enough. What would more Vision do? I don't think it would/should help in the missed tackle/juke/spin/etc. roll. All I can see it doing is making your HB more aware of defenders, which isn't the elusive problem IMO atm.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by Air18
Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt

I'm guessing in the current sim?
Yes.
In the future sim once vision actually works?
No.


You have to ask yourself... what would more vision ACUTALLY do? Make you see holes better? With 60+ vision (I even find this at 48 vision on my Power HB) I already hit the hole fast enough. What would more Vision do? I don't think it would/should help in the missed tackle/juke/spin/etc. roll. All I can see it doing is making your HB more aware of defenders, which isn't the elusive problem IMO atm.


Why shouldn't it help the Break Tackle/Juke/Head Fake/Spin roll?

It should help all of those things.
Edited by Bukowski on Dec 31, 2009 00:55:05
 
blln4lyf
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by blln4lyf

Would it still emulate the power setting though, I am not sure the Safest route vs Riskier route really captures that, as it might lean towards elusives. That could be adjusted though, surely.


Even a powerback...why would they choose to not run at the angle that will get them the furthest downfield, untouched? I mean, why run 1 yard downfield into a defender, when you can turn slightly and go 2 yards downfield before running into that defender?


Well, they wouldn't, but currently the adjustments they make can be very minor. As long as that holds true for the setting it is fine. I totally just made up an issue that wouldn't exist didn't I
 
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