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Catullus16
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Originally posted by Ahoda
Cat is the best troll in GLB history. UBass will be upset to find out he's now #2.
let me introduce myself.
95% of the time, i'm not taking anything seriously and just make jokes. most of them are bad because most of them are either inside jokes or to myself. usually i'm just posting noise because i need a break from job computing durations at AverageRates, Inc.
every once in a while, someone will say that i'm wrong about something. that's fine, i often am. first move? double-check, triple-check, see if i'm actually wrong. in this case, i'm not, so it's game on. so 5% of the time, i'm going to the wall about some stupid issue or another.
the point? i fully understand what spin (and others) are saying. i fully understand what the true duration is and how to calculate it. but if someone wants to tell me that i'm wrong about how to calculate average rate, well then i'm happy to rub their nose in it. i'm sorry that the math isn't leading to the answer that they like or that they're calculating the entirely wrong thing to get at duration, but that doesn't change the facts.
so for the rest of you, pop your popcorn and watch this thread go. i doubt any of us are taking this all that seriously (i hope). entertainment!
Cat is the best troll in GLB history. UBass will be upset to find out he's now #2.
let me introduce myself.
95% of the time, i'm not taking anything seriously and just make jokes. most of them are bad because most of them are either inside jokes or to myself. usually i'm just posting noise because i need a break from job computing durations at AverageRates, Inc.
every once in a while, someone will say that i'm wrong about something. that's fine, i often am. first move? double-check, triple-check, see if i'm actually wrong. in this case, i'm not, so it's game on. so 5% of the time, i'm going to the wall about some stupid issue or another.
the point? i fully understand what spin (and others) are saying. i fully understand what the true duration is and how to calculate it. but if someone wants to tell me that i'm wrong about how to calculate average rate, well then i'm happy to rub their nose in it. i'm sorry that the math isn't leading to the answer that they like or that they're calculating the entirely wrong thing to get at duration, but that doesn't change the facts.
so for the rest of you, pop your popcorn and watch this thread go. i doubt any of us are taking this all that seriously (i hope). entertainment!
Ahoda
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Originally posted by Catullus16
let me introduce myself.
95% of the time, i'm not taking anything seriously and just make jokes. most of them are bad because most of them are either inside jokes or to myself. usually i'm just posting noise because i need a break from job computing durations at AverageRates, Inc.
every once in a while, someone will say that i'm wrong about something. that's fine, i often am. first move? double-check, triple-check, see if i'm actually wrong. in this case, i'm not, so it's game on. so 5% of the time, i'm going to the wall about some stupid issue or another.
the point? i fully understand what spin (and others) are saying. i fully understand what the true duration is and how to calculate it. but if someone wants to tell me that i'm wrong about how to calculate average rate, well then i'm happy to rub their nose in it. i'm sorry that the math isn't leading to the answer that they like or that they're calculating the entirely wrong thing to get at duration, but that doesn't change the facts.
so for the rest of you, pop your popcorn and watch this thread go. i doubt any of us are taking this all that seriously (i hope). entertainment!
Spin takes it seriously. But he's just a cunt and no one cares what he thinks.
let me introduce myself.
95% of the time, i'm not taking anything seriously and just make jokes. most of them are bad because most of them are either inside jokes or to myself. usually i'm just posting noise because i need a break from job computing durations at AverageRates, Inc.
every once in a while, someone will say that i'm wrong about something. that's fine, i often am. first move? double-check, triple-check, see if i'm actually wrong. in this case, i'm not, so it's game on. so 5% of the time, i'm going to the wall about some stupid issue or another.
the point? i fully understand what spin (and others) are saying. i fully understand what the true duration is and how to calculate it. but if someone wants to tell me that i'm wrong about how to calculate average rate, well then i'm happy to rub their nose in it. i'm sorry that the math isn't leading to the answer that they like or that they're calculating the entirely wrong thing to get at duration, but that doesn't change the facts.
so for the rest of you, pop your popcorn and watch this thread go. i doubt any of us are taking this all that seriously (i hope). entertainment!
Spin takes it seriously. But he's just a cunt and no one cares what he thinks.
stromstarhammer
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You were right in how to calculate the average rate in your car with varying speeds.
I don't see how that is applicable to Redster's sister's problem.
If you are agreeing with Spin (and everyone else), then I don't see what point you were trying to make yesterday.
I don't see how that is applicable to Redster's sister's problem.
If you are agreeing with Spin (and everyone else), then I don't see what point you were trying to make yesterday.
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Originally posted by Catullus16
nope.
maybe read the thread? or heck, read what a wrote here -- http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5260783&page=last#49416952
Apples/oranges.
You are one of those people who think the teacher is the only right one in this problem:
http://aplus.com/a/pizza-reasonability-test
because you've made your assumption about the basic problem when in fact your assumptions themselves may be flawed, thus leading to an incorrect answer.
Once you acknowledge that you are solving the problem with certain assumptions, then you can then declare yourself as having the only correct answer. Otherwise you are opening yourself up to problems (like when our US/Euro Mars probe crashed because we used imperial units and assumed Europe was as well, but in fact they were using metric).
Originally posted by Catullus16
but hey, this isn't the first time i've been amazed at people calculating duration by ignoring terms and leaping from average rates.
granted, i have to live in a world where this shit actually matters otherwise people die.
If you have a job where this is important, then I recommend you question your assumptions each time, or otherwise you are going to be killing a lot of people with your logic. Good luck and try not to harm anyone with your faulty logic.
nope.
maybe read the thread? or heck, read what a wrote here -- http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5260783&page=last#49416952
Apples/oranges.
You are one of those people who think the teacher is the only right one in this problem:
http://aplus.com/a/pizza-reasonability-test
because you've made your assumption about the basic problem when in fact your assumptions themselves may be flawed, thus leading to an incorrect answer.
Once you acknowledge that you are solving the problem with certain assumptions, then you can then declare yourself as having the only correct answer. Otherwise you are opening yourself up to problems (like when our US/Euro Mars probe crashed because we used imperial units and assumed Europe was as well, but in fact they were using metric).
Originally posted by Catullus16
but hey, this isn't the first time i've been amazed at people calculating duration by ignoring terms and leaping from average rates.
granted, i have to live in a world where this shit actually matters otherwise people die.
If you have a job where this is important, then I recommend you question your assumptions each time, or otherwise you are going to be killing a lot of people with your logic. Good luck and try not to harm anyone with your faulty logic.
vladykins
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Originally posted by Catullus16
let me introduce myself.
95% of the time, i'm not taking anything seriously and just make jokes. most of them are bad because most of them are either inside jokes or to myself. usually i'm just posting noise because i need a break from job computing durations at AverageRates, Inc.
every once in a while, someone will say that i'm wrong about something. that's fine, i often am. first move? double-check, triple-check, see if i'm actually wrong. in this case, i'm not, so it's game on. so 5% of the time, i'm going to the wall about some stupid issue or another.
the point? i fully understand what spin (and others) are saying. i fully understand what the true duration is and how to calculate it. but if someone wants to tell me that i'm wrong about how to calculate average rate, well then i'm happy to rub their nose in it. i'm sorry that the math isn't leading to the answer that they like or that they're calculating the entirely wrong thing to get at duration, but that doesn't change the facts.
so for the rest of you, pop your popcorn and watch this thread go. i doubt any of us are taking this all that seriously (i hope). entertainment!
Nah- I'm just avoiding work. And this is more fun.
let me introduce myself.
95% of the time, i'm not taking anything seriously and just make jokes. most of them are bad because most of them are either inside jokes or to myself. usually i'm just posting noise because i need a break from job computing durations at AverageRates, Inc.
every once in a while, someone will say that i'm wrong about something. that's fine, i often am. first move? double-check, triple-check, see if i'm actually wrong. in this case, i'm not, so it's game on. so 5% of the time, i'm going to the wall about some stupid issue or another.
the point? i fully understand what spin (and others) are saying. i fully understand what the true duration is and how to calculate it. but if someone wants to tell me that i'm wrong about how to calculate average rate, well then i'm happy to rub their nose in it. i'm sorry that the math isn't leading to the answer that they like or that they're calculating the entirely wrong thing to get at duration, but that doesn't change the facts.
so for the rest of you, pop your popcorn and watch this thread go. i doubt any of us are taking this all that seriously (i hope). entertainment!
Nah- I'm just avoiding work. And this is more fun.
vladykins
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I was also going to send some "educational" videos from Pornhub regarding simultaneous action, but my work blocks those links.
Catullus16
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Originally posted by stromstarhammer
You were right in how to calculate the average rate in your car with varying speeds.
I don't see how that is applicable to Redster's sister's problem.
i was trying to make a point about average rates in general. the only problem with the calculation to 45mph is that it's answering a different problem, just as calculating average time-per-dude isn't answering the question of how long each dude is being serviced (i.e. duration). and the final paragraph stressed again that average rates don't capture simultaneity unless you're asking the right average rate or are including a term to get there.
the problem is that spin (and others) are just shoehorning the math and including the term -- which is fine, but then don't pretend that average time-per-dude has changed. clocktime and girltime are two different terms.
Originally posted by stromstarhammer
f you are agreeing with Spin (and everyone else), then I don't see what point you were trying to make yesterday.
i'm agreeing with his lay calculation of duration (who wouldn't). the issue is when i pointed out that average time-per-dude hadn't changed and he told me to /learntomath
You were right in how to calculate the average rate in your car with varying speeds.
I don't see how that is applicable to Redster's sister's problem.
i was trying to make a point about average rates in general. the only problem with the calculation to 45mph is that it's answering a different problem, just as calculating average time-per-dude isn't answering the question of how long each dude is being serviced (i.e. duration). and the final paragraph stressed again that average rates don't capture simultaneity unless you're asking the right average rate or are including a term to get there.
the problem is that spin (and others) are just shoehorning the math and including the term -- which is fine, but then don't pretend that average time-per-dude has changed. clocktime and girltime are two different terms.
Originally posted by stromstarhammer
f you are agreeing with Spin (and everyone else), then I don't see what point you were trying to make yesterday.
i'm agreeing with his lay calculation of duration (who wouldn't). the issue is when i pointed out that average time-per-dude hadn't changed and he told me to /learntomath
Edited by Catullus16 on May 25, 2016 10:48:14
spindoctor02
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Originally posted by Catullus16
i'm agreeing with his lay calculation of duration (who wouldn't). the issue is when i pointed out that average time-per-dude hadn't changed and he told me to /learntomath
Ummm...duration is a measurement of time, last I checked. So, time-per-dude and duration-per-dude are the same thing.
i'm agreeing with his lay calculation of duration (who wouldn't). the issue is when i pointed out that average time-per-dude hadn't changed and he told me to /learntomath
Ummm...duration is a measurement of time, last I checked. So, time-per-dude and duration-per-dude are the same thing.
ibleedgreen007
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The important part that you're all missing, is that the winner(s) in the initial article, is the first guy that came in her pussy, the first guy that came in her ass, and the first guy that came in her mouth (now that could all be one guy). After that they got to just sit and watch everyone else get their sloppy seconds, thirds, etc.
Catullus16
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Originally posted by vladykins
Apples/oranges.
You are one of those people who think the teacher is the only right one in this problem:
http://aplus.com/a/pizza-reasonability-test
nope, wrong again.
this isn't an issue with ambiguous wording. average rate and duration are two different things. they are only equal if you have accounted for simultaneity or can assume consecution.
Originally posted by vladykins
because you've made your assumption
nope.
Originally posted by vladykins
about the basic problem when in fact your assumptions themselves may be flawed, thus leading to an incorrect answer. ]Once you acknowledge that you are solving the problem with certain assumptions, blahblahblah
you are leaning rather hard on this particular little theory, to your detriment. the only assumption being made here is that by "average" we mean the arithmetic mean. at which point, exactly how many definitions for arithmetic mean do you think there are? if we're looking for the mean in terms of time-per-dude, well then that's total time divided by total dudes. end of story.
i realize that's not the number you like, but you can't just pretend that we've entered the world of opinions and do a little handwaving to get the number you want -- because doing so means you're now dealing with other terms entirely. if you want the mean in terms of girltime-per-dude, then calculate that. the error(s) you're making here are tantamount to thinking that yen is yaun or that years are lightyears. your innumeracy is troubling.
Apples/oranges.
You are one of those people who think the teacher is the only right one in this problem:
http://aplus.com/a/pizza-reasonability-test
nope, wrong again.
this isn't an issue with ambiguous wording. average rate and duration are two different things. they are only equal if you have accounted for simultaneity or can assume consecution.
Originally posted by vladykins
because you've made your assumption
nope.
Originally posted by vladykins
about the basic problem when in fact your assumptions themselves may be flawed, thus leading to an incorrect answer. ]Once you acknowledge that you are solving the problem with certain assumptions, blahblahblah
you are leaning rather hard on this particular little theory, to your detriment. the only assumption being made here is that by "average" we mean the arithmetic mean. at which point, exactly how many definitions for arithmetic mean do you think there are? if we're looking for the mean in terms of time-per-dude, well then that's total time divided by total dudes. end of story.
i realize that's not the number you like, but you can't just pretend that we've entered the world of opinions and do a little handwaving to get the number you want -- because doing so means you're now dealing with other terms entirely. if you want the mean in terms of girltime-per-dude, then calculate that. the error(s) you're making here are tantamount to thinking that yen is yaun or that years are lightyears. your innumeracy is troubling.
Catullus16
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Originally posted by spindoctor02
Ummm...duration is a measurement of time, last I checked. So, time-per-dude and duration-per-dude are the same thing.
lolno
Originally posted by Catullus16
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the real takeaway is that average rates seem simple on the surface but can lead straight to several different pitfalls. they're not necessarily intuitive to compute, they imply consecution, can elide simultaneity, and often are completely meaningless. for example, consider someone trying to figure out how long it takes to make a widget by asking how many widgets a factory can produce in an hour. but since the employees are working simultaneously, they should instead be asking how many widgets a factory employee can produce in an hour. to get at duration, you need to ask the right average rate (or have some other term to account for simultaneity).
Ummm...duration is a measurement of time, last I checked. So, time-per-dude and duration-per-dude are the same thing.
lolno
Originally posted by Catullus16
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the real takeaway is that average rates seem simple on the surface but can lead straight to several different pitfalls. they're not necessarily intuitive to compute, they imply consecution, can elide simultaneity, and often are completely meaningless. for example, consider someone trying to figure out how long it takes to make a widget by asking how many widgets a factory can produce in an hour. but since the employees are working simultaneously, they should instead be asking how many widgets a factory employee can produce in an hour. to get at duration, you need to ask the right average rate (or have some other term to account for simultaneity).
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Originally posted by Catullus16
lolno
http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy03NmRhYTc1MWE5NzUxNDgy.png
lolno
http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy03NmRhYTc1MWE5NzUxNDgy.png
ibleedgreen007
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I think the problem is that you're both trying to figure out different things, but you're not realizing it. spin is trying to make a point that you don't know how long each dude lasted with her on average until you have all of the information of how many guys she's doing at a time, whereas cat is essentially calculating the amount of time she has spent with each guy over that amount of time.
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