Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Time Trial
The time you seem to have wasted getting misinformed makes my willful ignorance seem like a pretty good choice.

The fact that you have no common sense and you disapprove of my choices only reinforces my choices and opinions.

Have fun basking in the glory of your willful ignorance.

Originally posted by Gnosis
Have fun basking in the glory of your willful ignorance.


I do. Enjoy holding that "end of the world" sign. Someday, if you are lucky, you'll be right.

Originally posted by Time Trial
I do. Enjoy holding that "end of the world" sign. Someday, if you are lucky, you'll be right.

End of the World? End of the world as we knew it maybe.

Again, enjoy your self inflicted blissful ignorance. Your children and grand children will pay for your apathy.

Random note: I actually just saw an hour-long engineering special on skyscrapers, and among other reasons the Spanish skyscraper didnt collapse (besides not being hit by a massive airplane), it had a revolutionary fire retardant with a concrete base sprayed directly onto the steel beams, so they could not get hot enough to weaken. This fire-proof coating, as it happens, was and is being applied to every WTC building in the new development.

Originally posted by Gnosis
End of the World? End of the world as we knew it maybe.

Again, enjoy your self inflicted blissful ignorance. Your children and grand children will pay for your apathy.




Are you threatening my kids?

No, I'm kidding. You are just pretending that MY ignorance of the WTC (and I presume life?) will be to the detriment of MY children and grand-children.

Since I'm done law school, am half-way through articling, and will be a lawyer as of May, I'm pretty sure my children will be well taken care of. I won't spoil them, will expect them to excel in sports and education, and I will hope that someday I can spoil their children.

My children will be just fine, as nothing that happens to the world will affect them more so than yours. On the other hand, living in the cold prairies, you get to be a lot tougher. We know extreme climates better than anyone. If anything, I'm worried about your children and grandchildren, who will grow up believing that Israel is the source of, and the solution to, all of the world's problems. Also Mossad planned 9/11, Al Queda was merely a puppet they controlled through an intermediary using money and hinting at targets and dates, and they were the "inside man" who REALLY took the towers down.

Originally posted by rams78110
Random note: I actually just saw an hour-long engineering special on skyscrapers, and among other reasons the Spanish skyscraper didnt collapse (besides not being hit by a massive airplane), it had a revolutionary fire retardant with a concrete base sprayed directly onto the steel beams, so they could not get hot enough to weaken. This fire-proof coating, as it happens, was and is being applied to every WTC building in the new development.


Four different fireproofing materials were used during the construction of the World Trade Towers.

The initial material used for most of the fireproofing (later withdrawn because it contained asbestos) was a mineral fiber formulation consisting of about 20 percent chrysotile asbestos, 60 to 65 percent mineral wool, and the remainder made of gypsum and Portland cement binder. This was sprayed on structural steel up to the 36th floor and parts of the 37th and 38th floors of the North Tower.

Above this point in the North Tower, and for the entire structure of the South Tower, the spray was an asbestos-free successor to the original product consisting of mineral wool and binder. These formulations were applied to core columns, the outside face of the exterior walls and columns, the long-span steel joists (trusses) that supported the concrete floors, and trench headers for the underfloor raceway system.
Click here to enlarge image

The third type of spray, a lightweight gypsum plaster with vermiculite aggregate, was used on the inside face of the exterior walls and columns and on the seats supporting the long-span joists. This material contained no asbestos.

The fourth formulation was a "hard coat" consisting of 80-percent chrysotile asbestos set in a matrix of Portland cement. This was sprayed over the mineral fiber fireproofing in locations where it was thought that the more friable fireproofing material could suffer from vibration or air erosion. As such, this "hard coat" was used in the high-speed elevator shafts between the concourse level and the 44th- and 78th-floor sky lobbies in both towers, where it was thought that air currents from the "piston effect" of the elevators could damage the fireproofing. This material was also applied to the ceilings of the four mechanical equipment floors (in both towers) and on the ceilings immediately below these floors.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Are you threatening my kids?

I know its hard for you to stop being a douche, but get real.... YOUR apathy and disinterest in the truth is what is threatening your kids. The world is a far more dangerous place after 9/11 and everything that has changed and everything that is being done based on that lie of 9/11 is a direct threat to you, your children and your grand children.


Originally posted by Time Trial

If anything, I'm worried about your children and grandchildren, who will grow up believing that Israel is the source of, and the solution to, all of the world's problems. Also Mossad planned 9/11, Al Queda was merely a puppet they controlled through an intermediary using money and hinting at targets and dates, and they were the "inside man" who REALLY took the towers down.

Don't worry, your children will make excellent little worker bees. I can tell already you'll be a defense lawyer because you have no interest in the truth... only in making money and securing a "future" you think you'll have. Your head is buried deep.

Deny deny deny deny deny deny. Just keep on denying the truth. Your fragile little ego couldn't handle the ramifications associated with the paradigm shift that is necessary to take place if you learn the truth. So you choose, willfully, to ignore uncomfortable truths and instead cling to a false reality.

Enjoy where that gets you in the long run.

Originally posted by Gnosis
Don't worry, your children will make excellent little worker bees. I can tell already you'll be a defense lawyer because you have no interest in the truth... only in making money and securing a "future" you think you'll have. Your head is buried deep.

Deny deny deny deny deny deny. Just keep on denying the truth. Your fragile little ego couldn't handle the ramifications associated with the paradigm shift that is necessary to take place if you learn the truth. So you choose, willfully, to ignore uncomfortable truths and instead cling to a false reality.

Enjoy where that gets you in the long run.


There's no money in being a defence lawyer. I'd LOVE to run Criminal Drinking and Driving cases because they draw on a lot of Charter of Rights laws, also because they usually pay up front. The truth is that no one likes defence lawyers until they need one. Real law isn't like in the movies or on TV. Most of what a junior lawyer does is research, drafting, and cold calls. I'm lucky enough to get to do some co-council work on litigation files and run some hearings, but you have no idea what I do for a living because it doesn't resemble the one-hour dramas and it isn't published in the papers.

How can you go from calling me an Egghead to a worker bee (or at least my children, who I assume you will believe must adopt the trait from me) so quickly? Academics research the minutia of a subject to tease out all of the details and find solutions or at least publish findings (lazy Profs), whereas worker bees don't ask any questions and just do their jobs.

The "ignorant" are all around me. I live in a province of beer-swilling, truck-driving, motorcross-loving, rednecks (who for some reason voted socialist for like 70 years, WTF?). I have looked into the eyes of blissful ignorance, I assure you, it is not the look I get coming back in the mirror.

In the long run, my education, my saving, and my hardwork will do me and mine a lot better than your fears and hatred.

Originally posted by wormser1971

Four different fireproofing materials were used during the construction of the World Trade Towers.

The initial material used for most of the fireproofing (later withdrawn because it contained asbestos) was a mineral fiber formulation consisting of about 20 percent chrysotile asbestos, 60 to 65 percent mineral wool, and the remainder made of gypsum and Portland cement binder. This was sprayed on structural steel up to the 36th floor and parts of the 37th and 38th floors of the North Tower.

Above this point in the North Tower, and for the entire structure of the South Tower, the spray was an asbestos-free successor to the original product consisting of mineral wool and binder. These formulations were applied to core columns, the outside face of the exterior walls and columns, the long-span steel joists (trusses) that supported the concrete floors, and trench headers for the underfloor raceway system.
Click here to enlarge image

The third type of spray, a lightweight gypsum plaster with vermiculite aggregate, was used on the inside face of the exterior walls and columns and on the seats supporting the long-span joists. This material contained no asbestos.

The fourth formulation was a "hard coat" consisting of 80-percent chrysotile asbestos set in a matrix of Portland cement. This was sprayed over the mineral fiber fireproofing in locations where it was thought that the more friable fireproofing material could suffer from vibration or air erosion. As such, this "hard coat" was used in the high-speed elevator shafts between the concourse level and the 44th- and 78th-floor sky lobbies in both towers, where it was thought that air currents from the "piston effect" of the elevators could damage the fireproofing. This material was also applied to the ceilings of the four mechanical equipment floors (in both towers) and on the ceilings immediately below these floors.

Didn't work, unfortunately. The new WTC towers shunned it in favor of the coating on the Spanish building.

And Gnosis: Don't even mention anyone's children in unrelated arguments. Regardless of intention.

Originally posted by Time Trial


In the long run, my education, my saving, and my hardwork will do me and mine a lot better than your fears and hatred.

That is where you drop the ball... you think I am motivated by fear and hatred, when it is the exact opposite. I am motivated by hope that a well informed humanity can shed its fear and apathy and unite to truly change this world for the better. I am motivated by my love for my family, my friends, and humanity as a whole.

I seek the truth and the truth has no agenda.

9/11 was a false flag attack. The world we are creating as a result of that massive lie should strike fear in your hearts because where they are taking us is someplace none of us want to go... I assure you.

Originally posted by rams78110
And Gnosis: Don't even mention anyone's children in unrelated arguments. Regardless of intention.

Mind your own business.

If we as human beings aren't thinking about how current events and trends will effect our children, our grand children, the future of our nation... and our society etc etc we're not being very responsible stewards of the present.

>talks about someone's children
>tells someone to mind their own business

Originally posted by Gnosis
That is where you drop the ball... you think I am motivated by fear and hatred, when it is the exact opposite. I am motivated by hope that a well informed humanity can shed its fear and apathy and unite to truly change this world for the better. I am motivated by my love for my family, my friends, and humanity as a whole.

I seek the truth and the truth has no agenda.

9/11 was a false flag attack. The world we are creating as a result of that massive lie should strike fear in your hearts because where they are taking us is someplace none of us want to go... I assure you.


I treat everyday people in my community well. I aspire to that end. Thinking globally, especially when you are talking about changing nations, you have a tougher road. I aspire to give the poor people in my community access to good adult role models, proper nutrition, and access to sports and good role models amongst their peers. I hope that making the hardest up in our community stronger, more prone to making good decisions, and not let them get sucked into the violence, drugs, and crime will turn out a larger % of people who become productive members of society. Even with a lot of help, that is tough because you need to change the culture and thinking of tens of thousands of people from the outside.

You are trying to change the culture and thinking of millions, maybe billions, from the outside.

I'm 32 years old. I know what I want to accomplish, I'm putting together the things and people I think I need to accomplish it, and I think it is a long-term goal that is worthy of accomplishing, no matter the sweat and setbacks. I'll never "cure" a broken society in my lifetime, but changing the circumstances of enough people so that they and their will help with the cause instead of hurting it? That's worth pursuing in my mind. The shit I do on here? Debate. Practice for court and for keeping my skills sharp. My aspirations are bigger than the shit I talk on these forums.

What is your plan? Do you know what you want to accomplish? What is your role and who do you need behind you? What kind of resources do you need? How will you get them?

Any time you talk longterm goals with me, I ask three-five questions of myself:

Do I know what needs to be accomplished?
Do I know what I need to accomplish it?
Do I have the resources in place or have a plan to get those resources in place?
Do I have the skills or the people with the skills that I need?
Do I have the will to see this through, do the other people I need have the will they need?

Wisdom - Knowing what needs to be done
Power - Having the things/skills/resources you need to do the thing
Courage - Having the will to see the thing done

Legend of Zelda? Yes. But those three guideposts have gotten me through a lot. I could do a whole motivational speaking program on what I have developed from an otherwise simple concept (if that were in the plan... maybe for the kids...).

Someone who lacks Wisdom, but who has Power and Courage will blindly accomplish (both good and evil) tasks. They are the worst kind of people, because they can be directed to do things of enourmous evil. They also often waste their efforts by accomplishing meaningless tasks (I think we are all there from time to time).

Someone who lacks Power will live a frustrated life. They have plans, they have will, but they don't have the skills or the means to accomplish their goals.

People who lack courage will get everything together, but then never see things through when they get tough. In relationships, usually serial daters who never make it through the fights to get to a solid foundation. These people accomplish little, and often disapoint others who seem them trying to do good, but never get anywhere.