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Originally posted by bhall43
then what is your problem?


look at this way... my team is AA now... after this season our team gets drafted by our 4 top teams.... then we request demotion back to lvl 38. We then sign an entire team from one of our low level teams.... now we are level 38...... with stripped fan support, stripped stadium, and stripped cash resetting to a base amount.... now we are in a league with new team who have moved up and have more cash, more stadium and better fan support.....

my problem is we created a system within the rules of the game, put good time and money into it to create an organization to make strong dots.... and then another sweeping change to the system changes everything we have built......
 
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Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
Originally posted by reddogrw

1 - my main team http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4127 - plenty of cash and does well
2 - Memphis can sign 30 players and earn media money very easily if that's the route I choose to take - not difficult - I have no plans to demote that team - if I wanted to do that I would have done it last season - I can keep the team loaded with cash until the farm team is level 36 and can all join the team - that's really not that difficult to do - would you rather this team stay in UM and lose a lot or drop down and have competitive games? hey, at least with the blowouts people will get their max XP
3 - my main complaints
3a - Catch 22 had me write a financial guide knowing that they are completely re-doing the money - what a fucking waste of time
3b - The new system looks to completely dumb down the game relative to money - something I enjoy doing for many teams since player building consists of training every 2-3 days (whoopee) so CFOing is (was?) keeping me interested in this game


http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=8240

you are a good guy, and we appreciate your thoughts.

please don't act like the team i linked to is irrelevant to this discussion.


see my answer #2

I am zero worry about my own team - if I wanted to drop down I would have done it last season - people see that and assume that is why I am very irritated

the points I made in item 3 are the reason

the last couple were not quoted as you quoted while I was editing
Edited by reddogrw on Feb 24, 2010 10:45:44
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Doesn't sound like you have the same motives that the rest of your league does.

Again, just because the game allows farm teams doesn't mean they deserve any special handling.


yes it is, because we self demote to a lower level to stay competive... we can only give them 2-3 lvls because they can only get that... we dont stay in the same level and shuffle through guys just for equip.
 
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Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=8240 you are a good guy, and we appreciate your thoughts. please don't act like the team i linked to is irrelevant to this discussion.



Originally posted by reddogrw
2 - Memphis can sign 30 players and earn media money very easily if that's the route I choose to take - not difficult - I have no plans to demote that team - if I wanted to do that I would have done it last season - I can keep the team loaded with cash until the farm team is level 36 and can all join the team - that's really not that difficult to do - would you rather this team stay in UM and lose a lot or drop down and have competitive games? hey, at least with the blowouts people will get their max XP - or I can sell the team and use my other team and build up the stadium, which is easy to do - haven't decided yet


When even the co-owner of the game can't be bothered to read posts before responding to them, it's easy to understand why the game is mismanaged.
 
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Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
No. A total reset won't happen.


Originally posted by mikeandbrooke07
and why not? whats the reasoning for not doing it?


 
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Originally posted by StinkCheese
no means no


 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
When even the co-owner of the game can't be bothered to read posts before responding to them, it's easy to understand why the game is mismanaged.


hes gonna have to stay somewhat competitive to stay in AAA another season.
 
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Speaking for myself, I would ,without a doubt , rather sell back my team than demoting now. It's very hard to be a multi-millionaire, and then having to go back to the bank for a loan.
Edited by tonylieu on Feb 24, 2010 10:49:41
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
see my answer #2

I am zero worry about my own team - if I wanted to drop down I would have done it last season - people see that and assume that is why I am very irritated

the points I made in item 3 are the reason

the last couple were not quoted as you quoted while I was editing


Wait, you like to CFO yet you're complaining about having to do it all again?
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
When even the co-owner of the game can't be bothered to read posts before responding to them, it's easy to understand why the game is mismanaged.


so you think tanking a season is a good thing?

also, FAIL TROLL
 
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Originally posted by Lions2x
look at this way... my team is AA now... after this season our team gets drafted by our 4 top teams.... then we request demotion back to lvl 38. We then sign an entire team from one of our low level teams.... now we are level 38...... with stripped fan support, stripped stadium, and stripped cash resetting to a base amount.... now we are in a league with new team who have moved up and have more cash, more stadium and better fan support.....

my problem is we created a system within the rules of the game, put good time and money into it to create an organization to make strong dots.... and then another sweeping change to the system changes everything we have built......


it doesnt really change all that much...other than you aren't able to game the system with your little farm teams...

and once equip is changed...you wont really have to give 2 shits about it.
Edited by bhall43 on Feb 24, 2010 10:51:45
 
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Originally posted by Voltron
Originally posted by reddogrw

see my answer #2

I am zero worry about my own team - if I wanted to drop down I would have done it last season - people see that and assume that is why I am very irritated

the points I made in item 3 are the reason

the last couple were not quoted as you quoted while I was editing


Wait, you like to CFO yet you're complaining about having to do it all again?


no

read my other post


3 - my main complaints
3a - Catch 22 had me write a financial guide knowing that they are completely re-doing the money - what a fucking waste of time
3b - The new system looks to completely dumb down the game relative to money - something I enjoy doing for many teams since player building consists of training every 2-3 days (whoopee) so CFOing is (was?) keeping me interested in this game
3c - having DD and R87 make their snide comments towards me really doesn't do much for me either
3d - we have an entire re-do of the money system and we're getting it in pieces - we need fewer bandaids and more complete solutions


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3800320&page=60
 
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If a team requests a demotion or reset, their stadium, cash and fan support will be reset to the default value for the level they are demoting/resetting to. For a team requesting a demotion to AA, only the fan support will be reset. Those default values are contained at the end of the announcement (all stadiums default with 100 level sidelines plus whatever is listed below):

I think this change is Bulls&*t I have been a team owner since season 1. I have had this team since season 1 and we have a full stadium and 1 hell of a bank to go with it because I have been a team owner for so long. After my guys hit there 10th year the 1st time around we started over with a brand new team cap 13. ALL the money and stadium came with me. Started in the minors level 13 cap and we are now SEA AA. Most of my guys are in there 6th or 7th year. So in 3 seasons I plan on restarting with a young and fresh roster. MORE FLEX POINTS PURCHASED AND MORE PLAYERS MADE

Now you are going to take away all the cash that I EARNED WITHOUT CHEATING. My stadium and basically my whole team just because I would rather start with a fresh roster instead or recruiting new players EVERY SEASON. So this time around I request demotion so the leagues are not all FU#%ED up and to HELP you guys. And in return you reset my whole team.. THAT IS BULLSH$T.

 
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Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
Originally posted by jdbolick

When even the co-owner of the game can't be bothered to read posts before responding to them, it's easy to understand why the game is mismanaged.


so you think tanking a season is a good thing?

also, FAIL TROLL


Do you realize how much jd has accomplished in this game? You do not have to like him to understand how great he is for GLB

 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by jdbolick

When even the co-owner of the game can't be bothered to read posts before responding to them, it's easy to understand why the game is mismanaged.


hes gonna have to stay somewhat competitive to stay in AAA another season.


I don't even think the new rules are strict enough. Not that big a deal to get 30 players averaging the suggested levels that are already way too low. I'd rather get rid of the reason behind these teams staying in these leagues with cpus.

Honestly, does anyone actually have fun with the current money system and stadium building? There isn't an art to it or anything. Build your stadium up before everything else, go a few years collecting money, drop down to start with full stadium and lots of money and then go from there. It's not fun or interesting. It's not an extra challenge or mental exercise. It's pointless and Bort i'm sure knows it is as he originally intended for money to do more things early on but i'm sure just got wrapped up in fixing the sim every season. I honestly would rather it go away altogether until a new system and new uses for money come out and then doll it out based on the team's lvl. It's just lame as is and not even worth keeping around if it's causing this much trouble
 
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