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Originally posted by po
Originally posted by GoBrowns

Originally posted by po


Originally posted by GoBrowns



Originally posted by Modok




What this boils down to is Bort wouldnt allow a move if he thought everything was done in a kosher way. He has already gotten burned by the team moving and wouldn't risk it unless he thought it should be done.

Like I said earlier, I blame Bort and GLB for this. There should have been rules preventing this and there wasnt. The interesting thing is whether they use this to fix a problem that will only get worse....or ignore it like they do so many other things.

The problem we arent the only team to have ever given players contract that run out at seasons end due to an ownership change. Thats the only reason the contracts were done like that. At that point we become free agents, so by forcing us to move its basically saying

"as a free agent sign wherever you like, unless it makes that team appear loads better then other teams in the league that thought they had a chance to win it" If this was a level capped league i could understand all the comotion, but it isnt.


Yes but did those teams take 95% of the team to a new team in a much lower level?

I mean do you realize the can of worms this opens up?

This does nothing from two teams doing exactly what I said above and signing all their players to contracts ending on day 32 or 34 and jumping them to the other team.

I mean 5 to 6 players could make the difference between a championship and 4th place.

It also just sets the stage for any team that feels they cant hang in the pros any more and have a GM just get a team sit it out a year in the capped level and then bring in the cavalry, and just own and move right back up 2 or 3 levels for the next couple of seasons.

I mean I dont know if thats why you did this but it really doesnt matter. This opens up a whole mess of things that would blatantly be called cheating but what are you going to do?

This is why it was made that only 6 players pre season could go to the same team.

Of course there are loopholes, there are loopholes to everything. Its just a matter of wether or not its let go.

If it is thats fine, I know how I ll set up my playoff roster.

Would it be in the best interest of the game if everyone just had two teams and then combined them at playoff time due to them being magically FA at the end of the regular season?

We honestly didnt bring 95% of our roster over here. Plenty of guys decided they didnt want to make the trip and so they didnt. However those of us that did make the move had been assured there wasnt a problem with it as we were FA's. It would be absolute crap to go "ya know what, since people bitched about it were gonna force you guys to move"

We didnt make any changes to a roster during the season, all the season ending contracts were sent by July 4th which was well before we even knew of this team. Again think what you will but we didnt do a damn thing wrong.

You didnt even read what I put did you?

At this point I really dont care wether you schemed this, or planned this or just happened to find a guy willing to take your entire team on.

It still doesnt make it right.

And regardless as I read the rule you did break rule number 2 pretty easily.

I really dont know how with a straight face you can tell me you didnt break this rule:

-Rule 2 : Farm teams are allowed but you cannot dramatically enhance one team at the expense of another - that means you can move a few players (up to 6-8 but cannot totally transfer a roster). This has been a rule since the end of season 1

I really dont.

Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

Ok, let's all simmer down. This is a situation where i think that both sides aren't bad people with bad intentions so let's treat each other with respect and cool our heads a bit.
Po has a point, a normally relegated team no offense wouldn't look like yours. A newly owned team wouldn't look like yours (for the most part). They would have to go through the hell that is recruiting just like the rest of us. If they happened along an free agent owner with a multitude of players and was successful at bringing them on board then more power to them. This is the story you have told.

This is where the story diverges some. Capped leagues, trade deadlines, no more than 2 trades between teams. It's all to make leagues balanced and competitive. We all pay money to enjoy the pleasure of e-competition. I hear about how your team wants to stay together and that's fine, but on the flipside, you have paying customers that really don't have any way to compete. You can say low chemistry and game planning but we all know that's not reality. Imagine being on the flipside of this deal, and it doesn't help that some players came rampaging onto the board with shouts of how they'll dominate the league.

The fair and equitable solution is to take your game on the road, to whereever the powers that be recommend and enjoy the upcoming season. You have your team intact and the league has it's level of competition restored.

Personally I think this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Whatever is going to happen will happen.

I am not going to let a team like this intimdate me. Solid builds and gameplanning can make the difference between winning and losing.

Right now they are the favorite to win the conference and probably the league.

Preseason rankings don't mean squat.

Let's see what happens on the field first.

I don't mind a challenge.

Originally posted by Warren Buffett
Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

You do realize a mod said it was illegal in that thread correct?

Originally posted by Adol
Personally I think this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Whatever is going to happen will happen.

I am not going to let a team like this intimdate me. Solid builds and gameplanning can make the difference between winning and losing.

Right now they are the favorite to win the conference and probably the league.

Preseason rankings don't mean squat.

Let's see what happens on the field first.

I don't mind a challenge.


and this seemed to be the feeling of most of the league. It changed suddenly yesterday it seems. As for the whole moving thing, why should we have to move because we didnt follow your protocall of a relegated team. You guys were expecting a cupcake gutted team and didnt get one.

Originally posted by po
Originally posted by Warren Buffett

Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

You do realize a mod said it was illegal in that thread correct?

yes, a mod did. And an Admin told us prior that we were fine

Originally posted by Bengals89
I like the defeatist attitude. You're gonna make a great low level manager some day.

I really dont need a demotion at work with the way the economy is.

Originally posted by po
Originally posted by Warren Buffett

Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

You do realize a mod said it was illegal in that thread correct?

He said it was illegal because he assumed we had traded all the players from the other team to this one. He was proven wrong later in the thread.

Originally posted by po
Originally posted by Bengals89

I like the defeatist attitude. You're gonna make a great low level manager some day.

I really dont need a demotion at work with the way the economy is.

I didn't mean to insult you. I apologize.

Originally posted by Bengals89
Originally posted by po

Originally posted by Warren Buffett


Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

You do realize a mod said it was illegal in that thread correct?

He said it was illegal because he assumed we had traded all the players from the other team to this one. He was proven wrong later in the thread.

Well considering that would be impossible to trade more than 6 players over to a team I dont see how the rule could mean anything but FA.....

You guys seem to get awful defensive though about this. Resorting to name calling and talking down to people.

I mean if you guys stay good for you and good for me, but in the best interest of the game it shouldnt be allowed.

It would be like an NBA team just going to europe to play. How would that be fair or in the best interest of the game in Europe? It wouldnt they would just destroy everyone, and I am sure it wouldnt be allowed.

If you guys want to stay that badly go right ahead, but from the best interest of the game this shouldnt be good.

Originally posted by po
Originally posted by Bengals89

Originally posted by po


Originally posted by Warren Buffett



Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

You do realize a mod said it was illegal in that thread correct?

He said it was illegal because he assumed we had traded all the players from the other team to this one. He was proven wrong later in the thread.

Well considering that would be impossible to trade more than 6 players over to a team I dont see how the rule could mean anything but FA.....

You guys seem to get awful defensive though about this. Resorting to name calling and talking down to people.

I mean if you guys stay good for you and good for me, but in the best interest of the game it shouldnt be allowed.

It would be like an NBA team just going to europe to play. How would that be fair or in the best interest of the game in Europe? It wouldnt they would just destroy everyone, and I am sure it wouldnt be allowed.

If you guys want to stay that badly go right ahead, but from the best interest of the game this shouldnt be good.

Except for the fact that the US hasnt won the gold medal in a while, proving the European leagues are more then capable of holding their own Carry on though

Originally posted by po
Originally posted by Bengals89

Originally posted by po


Originally posted by Warren Buffett



Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

You do realize a mod said it was illegal in that thread correct?

He said it was illegal because he assumed we had traded all the players from the other team to this one. He was proven wrong later in the thread.

Well considering that would be impossible to trade more than 6 players over to a team I dont see how the rule could mean anything but FA.....

You guys seem to get awful defensive though about this. Resorting to name calling and talking down to people.

I mean if you guys stay good for you and good for me, but in the best interest of the game it shouldnt be allowed.

It would be like an NBA team just going to europe to play. How would that be fair or in the best interest of the game in Europe? It wouldnt they would just destroy everyone, and I am sure it wouldnt be allowed.

If you guys want to stay that badly go right ahead, but from the best interest of the game this shouldnt be good.

USA All-star basketball sucks. Use another analogy.

Originally posted by po
Originally posted by Bengals89

Originally posted by po


Originally posted by Warren Buffett



Your interpretation of the rules are wrong. We had permission from mods and admins that this was legal. But you think it's not legal because we happened to come to your league?

Do you go by what we have quoted from a Mod and Admin or do you think maybe they can interpret the rules fairly?

You do realize a mod said it was illegal in that thread correct?

He said it was illegal because he assumed we had traded all the players from the other team to this one. He was proven wrong later in the thread.

Well considering that would be impossible to trade more than 6 players over to a team I dont see how the rule could mean anything but FA.....

You guys seem to get awful defensive though about this. Resorting to name calling and talking down to people.

I mean if you guys stay good for you and good for me, but in the best interest of the game it shouldnt be allowed.

It would be like an NBA team just going to europe to play. How would that be fair or in the best interest of the game in Europe? It wouldnt they would just destroy everyone, and I am sure it wouldnt be allowed.

If you guys want to stay that badly go right ahead, but from the best interest of the game this shouldnt be good.

I think we might be a little defensive because someone accused us of cheating. We get a little hurt when someone shoots their mouth off without knowing all the facts and then tries to get us punished.

I think you're a good guy, don't get me wrong. You're doing what's best for your team and the league. It's out in the open and we can discuss it.

Dude Po, its just a game. You picked up some talent, if they have good builds you should be close to our level. Don't worry about that 1 game.

Worst case we suffer through another season of "I'm going to beat the XXXs" before playing them and then "Gosh the XXXs are good" afterwards. XXX was stingers last year, its Bora Bora this year. Did you think you would go undefeated?

Again Brawlers i applaud you for staying together as a team, it's impressive especially if you weren't friends in RL. The problem i see is glb is like the nfl in that if something works, 100 people are doing it within the hour. You'll see more Pro teams disappear and magicly reappear on lower level leagues. You may have good intentions of keeping your squad together and that's admirable but show the same amount of respect for the overall game by realizing a pro team doesn't belong in this league. I don't mind if you stay because i think the Gunners can give you a little bit of a fight, but realisticly the rest of the teams are fighting just to catch up to us, ASRW and a few others. To your team, it's insurmountable.