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killertoad
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Originally posted by steelerblitz
That was class act you did at the beginning of the season with your PM



If you're talking about the PM where I gave you the gameplans of every team in this league in return for free beer... well then SHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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Originally posted by killertoad
They are a class act from top to bottom. We didn't exactly invite them to this league with open arms after putting up with the endless trash talk from the Bandits last season after they won AAA. We wrongly assumed that The Caninites would act the same way.

They were a class act from day one and shamed me real fast for piling on with the mob early. I have nothing but respect for that team.



Sorry for trying to put a little spice in the league dude. And any off the trash talk we did was with the Gods, well, because it was fun. Its an online MMO game dude, a little talking is what makes it fun.

Hatin on the bandits, I love it.



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that was the problem. the league was plenty spicy before you all showed up thinking you were doing us some great favor with all your self-aggrandizing jabber. and at the end of the day all that talk, was well, what? talk. but at least you got the memo on putting up or shutting up.
 
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I didnt get any memo. Please resend.
 
steelerblitz
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Originally posted by killertoad
Originally posted by steelerblitz

That was class act you did at the beginning of the season with your PM



If you're talking about the PM where I gave you the gameplans of every team in this league in return for free beer... well then SHHHHHHHHHH!!!




:high 5:


 
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Originally posted by Jim Mora
They're a good group of guys, and they know quite a bit about the game.


you know I'm not even sure when you say "the game"
you mean GLB or football in general

it's easy for me to set up a game plan after scouting an opponent although
I get so annoyed with the fact that I can't assign matchups with the players and their opponents such as:
assign this linebacker to only cover the HB on run and pass plays

it's all numbers and percentages

man I am getting so anxious for the AI thing to come online
also what ever happened to running out of bounds to stop the clock?
I've enjoyed this GLB thing but a lot of its limitations really bother me
 
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Originally posted by kevins4484
I didnt get any memo. Please resend.



I think what Civ is trying to tell you is don't talk shit unless you can back it up. But then again you already learned that lesson I think.
 
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Originally posted by kevins4484
Originally posted by killertoad

They are a class act from top to bottom. We didn't exactly invite them to this league with open arms after putting up with the endless trash talk from the Bandits last season after they won AAA. We wrongly assumed that The Caninites would act the same way.

They were a class act from day one and shamed me real fast for piling on with the mob early. I have nothing but respect for that team.



Sorry for trying to put a little spice in the league dude. And any off the trash talk we did was with the Gods, well, because it was fun. Its an online MMO game dude, a little talking is what makes it fun.

Hatin on the bandits, I love it.



No, what you tried to do was prove that an annoying group of wannabees would show everyone up and win the league. You were half right. You were nothing but a group of annoying wannabees. What's funny is I told you how it would all end for you by week 3.

The difference is the Caninites have already gained the respect that you so desperately want.

 
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Originally posted by killertoad
Originally posted by kevins4484

I didnt get any memo. Please resend.



I think what Civ is trying to tell you is don't talk shit unless you can back it up. But then again you already learned that lesson I think.


Really? Bandits went undefeated nearly the whole season only to lose once in the regular season and again to the same team in the playoffs. If that's not enough "backing it up", then that means that there are only one or two teams each season that are allowed to try to have fun talking shit. If that. Is Oceania Pro really the No Fun League?
 
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Originally posted by HaplosDog
Originally posted by killertoad

Originally posted by kevins4484


I didnt get any memo. Please resend.



I think what Civ is trying to tell you is don't talk shit unless you can back it up. But then again you already learned that lesson I think.


Really? Bandits went undefeated nearly the whole season only to lose once in the regular season and again to the same team in the playoffs. If that's not enough "backing it up", then that means that there are only one or two teams each season that are allowed to try to have fun talking shit. If that. Is Oceania Pro really the No Fun League?


Hows that working for you now pal?
 
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Originally posted by killertoad
Originally posted by HaplosDog

Originally posted by killertoad


Originally posted by kevins4484



I didnt get any memo. Please resend.



I think what Civ is trying to tell you is don't talk shit unless you can back it up. But then again you already learned that lesson I think.


Really? Bandits went undefeated nearly the whole season only to lose once in the regular season and again to the same team in the playoffs. If that's not enough "backing it up", then that means that there are only one or two teams each season that are allowed to try to have fun talking shit. If that. Is Oceania Pro really the No Fun League?


Hows that working for you now pal?


Nice.
 
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Originally posted by killertoad
Originally posted by HaplosDog

Originally posted by killertoad


Originally posted by kevins4484



I didnt get any memo. Please resend.



I think what Civ is trying to tell you is don't talk shit unless you can back it up. But then again you already learned that lesson I think.


Really? Bandits went undefeated nearly the whole season only to lose once in the regular season and again to the same team in the playoffs. If that's not enough "backing it up", then that means that there are only one or two teams each season that are allowed to try to have fun talking shit. If that. Is Oceania Pro really the No Fun League?


Hows that working for you now pal?



Not horrible dude. We had a brutal start but should still make the playoffs, thats some fuckin percerverence afte starting like 1-7 or something. Now we get to hand that stupid 2 legged, one man pony its first lose in the pros.

I hate that horse.
 
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Originally posted by steelerblitz
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Originally posted by ironman4579


I'd also point out that I think the Cananites gameplanning has very little to do with their success. It's mainly player builds are excellent across the board.


I think that is a better description of the Brantford Mustangs. Those guys over there know how to build players from top to bottom. We are good with our builds, but cannot compare to their expertise.



I would agree. Brantford might be the best in ALL of Oceania at building players.

I have to disagree with you saying our planning doesnt have much to do with it. We "battle" each other on our boards daily trying to come up with gameplans. We dont always agree either. We get some good heated conversations going. We are just like every other team. We might all be from the same Fantasy football site, but we dont personally know each other. I dont know very many fantasy football players that dont think they know a lot . We are kind of like poker players. We all have opinions on things. At the end of the day we come together as a team. Our planning goes hand and hand WITH our builds. We know who we are as a team. We know our strengths and our weaknesses. We also have a group of unselfish guys.



First let me say, no offense was intended when I said that your gameplanning had little to do with it. You guys are a class act, and have already earned my respect as a very good team and group of guys. That said, here we go.

I'm sure you guys put alot of thought into your gameplans. I'm sure there is alot of battling that goes on. However I think it has little to do with your actual success for a few reasons. First you guys have 29 missed tackles on the season. That's not gameplan, that's build. And you've caused 374 missed tackles. In the 11 games played against at least decent teams, you've caused 248 missed tackles, or 22.5 per game. That's build, not gameplan, because regardless of what the other team does, perfect play calling throughout, your guys will still break tackles, causing the play to be a net gain. 22.5 broken tackles in game vs 2 per game for you guys is a basically insurmountable advantage, and it has little to nothing to do with gameplan. For your total missed tackles caused on the season, it's a basically 13 to 1 ratio. For every one missed tackle by you, the other team misses 13. That's something that cannot be overcome by a teams gameplan, regardless of what they do. That's only compounded by the fact you guys average 74 pancakes per game, which again is not gameplanning, it's build.

I'll go to 2 specific examples. The Las Vegas Outlaws played 100% run defense against you, and every player should have been set to run focus. You literally shouldn't have been able to run at all. Yet you rushed over 60 times, and were able to pick up over 200 yards. Even if you averaged 3.5 YPC. that's still too much against a purely run oriented defense. the 22 tackles you caused to be missed came into play, and that's build again, not gameplan, because the defensive gameplan should have been perfect, as you completed less than 50% of your passes. At least your offensive gameplan had little to nothing to do with your offensive success.

Now, you did have 4 INT's in that game, and 69 on the season, but that leads me to something else. The Outlaws went almost 100% long passes. I highly doubt that you had it set to cover that much of a percentage of long passes, yet you stopped them fairly easily. That's build again, not much gameplan.

Against the U Canes, you guys caused 49 missed tackles. Against a team that has 86 missed tackles on the season. Take that game away and they have 37 missed tackles. You guys caused 57% of the Canes missed tackles on the season in one game. It wouldn't have mattered what the gameplan was, there's no way they would have won.

Let me just say this. It may seem like I'm attacking you guys, or trying to run down your success. Please believe me, I'm really not. It's not sour grapes (Ok, maybe a little ) You guys are a very good team, with very classy players and owners, and are very well built, and should be good for a long time. That said, I think you guys could just go 100% run against most of the teams in Zeta, tell them that, have them go 100% run defense, and still win and put up decent yardage on the ground because of your total team build. You guys have wroked together well to put together the perfect/near perfect builds, and to make sure they complement each other. But let's be realistic here. It's those builds that are really the biggest factor in your success (as well as great teamwork, being classy etc.), and little to do with gameplan. I'm sure most people won't agree with me, but that's the way I see it.

Either that or you've managed to hack the game

 
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I have it on good authority that the Canninites cheat.

They hacked the game, looked at every player's build on the Cans, and gameplanned accordingly.

They not a class act, they're a bunch of dirty low-down egg-sucking cheaters. They even had a cameraman on our sidelines, stealing our signals. How lame can you be! Could you imagine if a real NFL team was caught doing that, much less one perceived as "classy"?

If you want a class act, look no further than the FFLW Cans. We would never stoop to the underhanded tactics of the Cannintes.
 
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Originally posted by football_scooter
They even had a cameraman on our sidelines, stealing our signals. How lame can you be! Could you imagine if a real NFL team was caught doing that, much less one perceived as "classy"?


Ahh... you mean like New England did just this last year? LoL

They just got a fine, a slap, and lost a draft pick...
 
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