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TesT
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Originally posted by turnerhero
My point is that a "Shutdown Corner" is a player who covers so well that whoever it is they're defending against man to man cannot get open to catch the ball, thus, the QB isn't going to try to throw their way, and thus, the stats are not going to be there.

Also, trying to compare this game in it's current state to anything similar to real Football is ridiculous in so many ways I cannot even begin to list them...



Alas....you're trying to compare what makes a "real life" shutdown CB to what makes one here. They're not the same.

Shutdown CBs will put up stats in this game. The CPU engine doesnt say...."OMG, this CB is UBER special and I'm no longer doing to run or throw his way". The BEST CBs in this game will limit their WRs to minimal catches/no TDs while putting up solid INT and deflection totals.

Tackles can go either way depending on your opponents game tactics. Infact, A lot is determined by game tactics....both by the defense, CB, and opposing offense.



Last edited Jul 13, 2008 04:55:16
 
slofton
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Pppfffttt....

You HBs are lucky Shaun Gallagher is a back up and only getting 7 to 12 rushes a game and 20 plays.

 
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Originally posted by turnerhero

My point is that a "Shutdown Corner" is a player who covers so well that whoever it is they're defending against man to man cannot get open to catch the ball, thus, the QB isn't going to try to throw their way, and thus, the stats are not going to be there.

Also, trying to compare this game in it's current state to anything similar to real Football is ridiculous in so many ways I cannot even begin to list them...



If we are using this criteria, I nominate my CB, He has 42 tackles that mostly came on special teams and run support. 6ints and 9PDs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=569697
Last edited Jul 13, 2008 10:11:38
 
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Originally posted by Ecliptica
Can anyone explain to me why my player (CB - Reko Savinen, Carthage Mercenaries) hasn't received a single Pro Bowl Vote - let alone isn't even ranked in the top TWENTY FIVE in the power rankings?
79 tackles, 9 interceptions (second only to sole man, 1 returned for a 91 yard touchdown), 17 pass deflections.

What exactly do I need to do to get any sort of recognition?

EDIT: And for some reason unbeknownest to me, my guy wasn't even starting until two games ago.


I went and looked at some of your plays to see why you had so many tackles and why you didn't get Pro Bowl Votes. So I decided to show the plays that make you not look like a shutdown and Pro Bowl corner.LMAO you ain't no Hitman

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=6467316

WR was 3 levels lower than you and made you look bad.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=6467654

I know you wouldn't make it as a tackling corner cause of missed opportunities like this.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=6469102

Equal level so I can't knock your dude to bad on it but it's definitely not shutdown corner.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=6470586

Same thing here not shut down corner.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7183014

You faced a higher level WR here but you came very close to being on a poster.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7183014

Your Safety got burnt pretty bad but you should have made this tackle if your guy is set for wrapup since the tweaks to tackling hadn't been set yet.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7183014

I'm already seeing that this was a really bad game for you tackling and covering since you got beat for many 10 plus yard gains.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=9329579

I know it may have been goalline but you still got beat for a TD and shutdown corners don't get beat for TD's.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7909413

Don't know what happened here.

I'm kinda bored looking through the rest of your games for big plays your guy gave up but the point of this was to show that your guy isn't a shutdown corner. I will say you have a good corner that has come up with some INT's but your guy can be beat for many 8 yd plus plays consistently and your dude can be ran on quite a bit. I'm probably an ass for putting this post up but the fact that you want people to vote for your guy to the Pro Bowl and were serious about it kinda deserved this. I'm sure you wanna look at Hitman's highlights to see any weaknesses in his game but I'm gonna save you the trouble and tell you I haven't been beat for a touchdown all year and have given up a long of maybe 16 yds at most against a guy 5-8 levels higher than me since I'm only a level 13. The Hitman is for real and hasn't missed a tackle all year but there is one play where I believe it was Whale Shark or one of the top RB's made me look stupid and I probably should be credited with a Missed Tackle.The play looked like John Lynch trying to tackle Barry Sanders and my dude looked like he frooze and didn't know what to do and the run when for about 20 yards I think but I couldn't find it right now. Anyway whoever it was I will be paying you back if we meet in the playoffs.LOL




Last edited Jul 13, 2008 10:42:24
 
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My God! ON SUBJECT! People you only have a few more days to get these in! Voting will be cut off @ 5 PM on Wednesday, and rosters will be announced by 10 PM the same day!!!! Thanks!!!
Last edited Jul 13, 2008 18:31:59
 
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Originally posted by Ecliptica
Can anyone explain to me why my player (CB - Reko Savinen, Carthage Mercenaries) hasn't received a single Pro Bowl Vote - let alone isn't even ranked in the top TWENTY FIVE in the power rankings?
79 tackles, 9 interceptions (second only to sole man, 1 returned for a 91 yard touchdown), 17 pass deflections.

What exactly do I need to do to get any sort of recognition?

EDIT: And for some reason unbeknownest to me, my guy wasn't even starting until two games ago.


just looking at your build (which is open), i can tell you are not a pro bowl corner
Last edited Jul 13, 2008 13:09:05
 
bluepike
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Yeah, not a very good build by any means.

This is why I don't participate in this, people get all... well, for a lack of better word, butthurt over things like this.
 
G.O.D Turner
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He's not a receiver, he's a corner, but either way, he's not pro bowl caliber

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=352995

That's my CB, around the exact same lvl, and he's the #1 CB on the team (as far as the depth chart list). Now, being the top CB on depth, he's gonna be facing the top WRs of each team we face all season, and he has. His stats are LOW AS HELL compared to yours man, and the simple reason is that he's better at shutting down whoever he's defending all game long. Sure, he's been beaten before, given up a TD here and there, given up that big play once or twice, but all in all, the majority of the time, his WR doesn't get involved in the game, because there's no opening to pass that direction.

THAT...is a shutdown corner, and while he's not the best, he's a better example than your guy. I'm not trying to be a prick here, just trying to get you to see the reality here...
Last edited Jul 13, 2008 12:46:40
 
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yea i mean corner
 
TesT
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Originally posted by turnerhero
Sure, he's been beaten before, given up a TD here and there, given up that big play once or twice


Then you're not a shutdown corner.
 
TesT
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Again, the best CBs in the game not only shut down their WR, but also create scoring opportunities for their offense by providing turnovers and good field position...something your CB lacks considerably.
 
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LION
QB- Tex Mass (Tanzanian)
HB- DS Davis (Rwanda)
FB- Bad Liam (Togo)
WR- Antwan Malik (Zanzibar)
WR- Nidan Kamala (Pretoria)
TE- Give me The Ball (Niger)
OT- Jake "UofM" Long (Ethiopia)
OT- Pass Block (Zimbabwe)
OG- Run Block (Zimbabwe)
OG- Frontal Action (Ethiopia)
C- Protect Block (Zimbabwe)

DE- Wacko Bronsko (Pretoria)
DE- Depressed EmoBoy (Impending)
DT- Hikedi Kryschetchniver (Pretoria)
DT- Wyatt Load (Botswana)
LB- Yougotta Getdown (Pretoria)
LB- Slappy McSlappy (Texas)
LB- Nicky Manicotti (Congo)
CB- Skinny Ortiz (Botswana)
CB- Denny Dubs (Niger)
FS- Charles Dickens (Zimbabwe)
SS- Death Streak (Pretoria)

K- Da Bigg Fooot (Niger)
P- Joshua DeGrasse-Baumann (Tanzanian)
KR/PR- MyRoy Green (Zimbabwe)

Last edited Jul 15, 2008 14:14:03
 
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Originally posted by GSUFan513
My God! ON SUBJECT! People you only have a few more days to get these in! Voting will be cut off @ 5 PM on Wednesday, and rosters will be announced by 10 PM the same day!!!! Thanks!!!


EDITED for accuracy!!
 
G.O.D Turner
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Originally posted by TesT
Again, the best CBs in the game not only shut down their WR, but also create scoring opportunities for their offense by providing turnovers and good field position...something your CB lacks considerably.


He's made his plays. One of those clutch performers I guess. Made an interception that had our teammates jumping for joy, saved the other team from kicking a FG or getting a TD that would have beaten us at the goal line this season..

Had a few well-timed PDs that kept a team or two out of field goal range at just the right moment...

but that's not my point...my point was that he's MORE of a shutdown corner than the other dude who's crying about not getting votes. Chances are, there is no true shutdown corner alive, even in the NFL. You're gonna get burned once or twice - but the thing is, if you're only burned once or twice all season, you're doin pretty fuckin good
 
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LION
QB- Henson Gawliu Jr. (Tigers)
HB- DS Davis (Rwanda)
FB- Bad Liam (Togo)
WR- Antwan Malik (Zanzibar)
WR- Nidan Kamala (Pigs)
TE- Give_me The-BALL (Hitmen)
OT- Jake "UofM" Long (Ethiopia)
OT- Pass Block (Zimbabwe)
OG- Run Block (Zimbabwe)
OG- Frontal Action (Ethiopia)
C- Protect Block (Zimbabwe)

DT- Hikedi Kryschetchniver (Pigs)
DT- Wyatt Load (Botswana)
DE- Depressed Emoboy (Doom)
DE- Wacko Bronsko (Pigs)
LB- Slappy McSlappy (Texas)
LB- Yougotta Getdown (Bulls)
LB- Nicky Manicotti (Choir Boys)
CB- Nick Klein (Zanzibar)
CB- Scott Boros (Rwanda)
SS- Stump LagerAle (Tanzania)
FS- Charles Dickens (Bulls)

K- Da Bigg Fo0ot (Hitmen)
P- Joshua DeGrasse-Baumann (Tanzania)
KR- Lawrence of Mongolia (Zanzibar)
PR- Deion Warwick (Tigers)

Ow, my fingers hurt...
 
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