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bhall43
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Originally posted by Parab00n
It's meaningless when it doesn't fit your argument.


No it's meaningless because it is meaningless. It isn't like they are a balanced team or anything.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
No it's meaningless because it is meaningless. It isn't like they are a balanced team or anything.


Let me break it down so even you can understand it.

More plays ran = more complex defense
Fewer plays ran = less complex defense
 
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Yeah...those Xars arguments are getting more stupid from time to time I have th feeling^^

Love this defending pass Os
 
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Originally posted by Parab00n
Let me break it down so even you can understand it.

More plays ran = more complex defense
Fewer plays ran = less complex defense


Let me break this down for you. A pure O isn't complex. Especially a run pure O.
 
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Originally posted by peeti
Love this defending pass Os


Who is defending a pass O? Are you dense?
 
Stobie
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As someone who knows both teams, I will say that Air Raid has made it known they don't adjust much on offense and hope to win the rolls, that's their MO. Been stated publicly MANY times, nothing new. Their defense as I will say with MOST teams is what changes. Once you dial in an Offense you leave it there until you find a need to change it, but you will always need to adjust your D to account for other teams O. That's been the MO of the majority of teams I have had dealings with.

I do that on all 3 of the teams I have, leave the O and let it go and expect my D to adjust, when I have time, I am not the best case study here.

Stunners have also been known to be more diverse on both sides of the ball than most teams I encounter. When Steve ran the team and Madden, they game plan, they scout, they analyze and that is why they are so good at what they do. They don't just set it and leave it, even in cupcake games, they adjust. That is what makes them so dangerous. Teams that do the whole set it and leave it either benefit from lack of planning on the other teams, or just build superiority, or get beat because of stagnant play calling.

 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Who is defending a pass O? Are you dense?


Xars was saying that Stunners don't work hard, thus saying rushing was easy. TBH both arguments are moot as 1 dimensional teams are easy either way you slice it. You focus is not as wide, your builds will be superior and frankly it usually comes down to defense to see who wins in games where you have two one dimensional playing, you know there is going to be scoring.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Let me break this down for you. A pure O isn't complex. Especially a run pure O.


Amazing that you can't even follow 1 thread without getting lost and you have the audacity to call someone else dense.
 
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Here's my guess

Team A: 42 Different Plays : Stunners
Team B: 16 Different Plays : Air Raid
Team C: 38 Different Plays : Harrisonburg
Team D: 27 Different Plays : AA
Team E: 33 Different Plays : Virgins
 
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Originally posted by Stobie
Xars was saying that Stunners don't work hard, thus saying rushing was easy. TBH both arguments are moot as 1 dimensional teams are easy either way you slice it. You focus is not as wide, your builds will be superior and frankly it usually comes down to defense to see who wins in games where you have two one dimensional playing, you know there is going to be scoring.


He was saying scouting either is a joke.
 
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this just in:


Guy who's team has gone 18-17-1 in their last 36 games says "scouting is a joke"


I'm shocked.


(by 'guy' I mean bhall - not xars)
Edited by TxSteve on Feb 10, 2015 12:45:39
 
bhall43
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Next you are going to tell me that by scouting my team could have been undefeated.
 
TxSteve
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No. Can absolutely, 100% though make the difference in some of those losses. How many would you still have lost? I couldn't say because I don't know anything about your builds - and I've never watched you play unless I've played you with the stunners before.

To say "scouting makes no difference" is a bit of an exaggeration as implying I said you could go undefeated though.
Edited by TxSteve on Feb 10, 2015 13:18:10
 
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I wouldn't call what I do with Air Raid's offense "tactically uninteresting". That's a bit shallow sighted. What we do is incredibly tactical ultimately. Playcalling is only a small part of what a team does in this game. You can make it your tactical focus, or you can do what we did or the Stunners did and make the roster design the tactical focus.

I think too many folks are too focused on trying to build a roster to use a bunch of different pieces of the playbook (defensively too). The Air Raid approach is to master the hell out of a small, niche section of the playbook with your roster. We pulled it off on offense. We didn't really do that on defense.

Go look at what we're attempting with Ground Assault. If that idea pans out, we'll have done the same thing with defense.
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve

To say "scouting makes no difference" is a big of an exaggeration as implying I said you could go undefeated though.


You can go ahead and quote me on "scouting makes no difference". I will await your immediate reply.
 
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