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Originally posted by JudeMorrigan

I think you're confused about what Xav is saying. He's saying they shuffle when they *don't* see a gap open in front of them.


Right, gimme a link where there is no gap on the LoS. I'll believe when i see it.

Here. Watch what 59 is doing at ~13s. I believe this is what Xav is wanting players to do rather than running straight forward into blockers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W24vK_499M

Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. It's a "fix your build" issue. Wanna shut down these QB rollout teams? Get silver showboat and 40+ intimidation on your main TFL players.

10+ TFLs are all well and good until you've cost your entire offense 100 morale and boosted the entire defense by 50 morale.

Originally posted by JudeMorrigan
Here. Watch what 59 is doing at ~13s. I believe this is what Xav is wanting players to do rather than running straight forward into blockers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W24vK_499M

hilarious link. but 59 is running right at the LOS.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/63110/525891

Fix it like in this play, have the LBers teleport when they are blocked, through to the ball carrier

Originally posted by JudeMorrigan
Here. Watch what 59 is doing at ~13s. I believe this is what Xav is wanting players to do rather than running straight forward into blockers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W24vK_499M

That's exactly it!

Move down the line, then crash when you see the ball carrier.

You know, you're right. That's not the best of all possible examples. But you know what, rather than trying to fish up youtube links, I'm going to post this instead:

http://coachxo.com/defending-sweep-perimeter-plays-3-5-3-defense/

It goes into more of the basic principles of how actual defenses try to stop these sorts of plays.

Originally posted by JudeMorrigan
You know, you're right. That's not a great example. But you know what, rather than trying to fish up youtube links, I'm going to post this instead:

http://coachxo.com/defending-sweep-perimeter-plays-3-5-3-defense/

That's really, really counting on the outside guy to contain. I know this, because that's where I played when I played football.

And you have to run wind sprints the next practice any time a back gets outside you

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/63110/525891

Fix it like in this play, have the LBers teleport when they are blocked, through to the ball carrier

lol

Originally posted by Xavori
That's exactly it!

Move down the line, then crash when you see the ball carrier.

No... You don't do that unless the LOS is jam packed, like 5-2 vs. Big I or GL or something.

Originally posted by Xavori
That's really, really counting on the outside guy to contain. I know this, because that's where I played when I played football.

And you have to run wind sprints the next practice any time a back gets outside you
Sure, sure. I'm just saying that worrying about containment really is a thing rather than just having everyone go full speed ahead, damn the blockers, pursuit angles et al.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
No... You don't do that unless the LOS is jam packed, like 5-2 vs. Big I or GL or something.


Erm, what were we talking about again? I thought the whole discussion was about how it's a bad thing to have linebackers run headlong into scrums in plays like goalline sweeps.

Btw, in today's Completely Wrong For Making The Two Lounge Seasoned Teams Play Each Other Bowl...


The team that is all sneaky with QB Rollouts going so far as to use a running QB specifically for them...lost.

The defense totally coached by yours truly....won. (and I refused to gameplan for it on general principle instead just running my default D)

Now, Darkside did score on one of those rollouts, but it took the linebacker who got past the line not making a pursuit roll and both the FS and ILB missing tackles to do it.

'Course we turned another of those rollouts into a fumble, so it's all good.

Pursuit angles are OP, but no one builds these types of joes and wonder why they get burned to the outside.

What you want is nothing new, AGD2D and 42 joes do it all the time.

Originally posted by JudeMorrigan

Erm, what were we talking about again? I thought the whole discussion was about how it's a bad thing to have linebackers run headlong into scrums in plays like goalline sweeps.

They don't do that, and if they are (and you don't want them to) pick better plays.

Originally posted by JudeMorrigan

Erm, what were we talking about again? I thought the whole discussion was about how it's a bad thing to have linebackers run headlong into scrums in plays like goalline sweeps.

You're trying to have a discussion about real football with Jampy which is lot like trying to push Sisyphus's builder up that hill...