Warrior General Games

Originally posted by justind0301
All I got out of these 5 pages is that people are upset they have to choose whether they are good at stopping the pass, run, or a little of both. aka they want the offense to suck at passing so they can just focus on stopping the run

you idiot,

CBs are for stopping the Pass. If they can't do that, then they can't do anything.

If WRs can do what they aren't even being built to do and CBs can't do what they are being built to do,
then game is broken.

When will see the effects of Corndogs fix?

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
When will see the effects of Corndogs fix?

I'd hold my judgment on calling it a fix considering it's my first time actually touching the sim code. Seems to generally work better though /shrug

Originally posted by Corndog
I'd hold my judgment on calling it a fix considering it's my first time actually touching the sim code. Seems to generally work better though /shrug

Ah ok, no prob.

Originally posted by justind0301
All I got out of these 5 pages is that people are upset they have to choose whether they are good at stopping the pass, run, or a little of both. aka they want the offense to suck at passing so they can just focus on stopping the run

Nobody wants the offense to suck at passing. What we want is for the offense to be good at passing, and the defense to be good at stopping the pass. When both of those things are true, then play calling / game planning is the deciding factor, which is how it ought to be.

Originally posted by Badhands
Nobody wants the offense to suck at passing. What we want is for the offense to be good at passing, and the defense to be good at stopping the pass. When both of those things are true, then play calling / game planning is the deciding factor, which is how it ought to be.

This.

There should be an equal number of Run only teams as there are pass only.

Run only teams aren't appealing for the sense that they are terrible at 3rd down. That has nothing to do with how good the passing game is.

Originally posted by bhall43
Run only teams aren't appealing for the sense that they are terrible at 3rd down. That has nothing to do with how good the passing game is.

Not really, good pitches are about as hit or miss as 10 yard pass plays imo.

Well now you are just playing dumb.

Originally posted by Badhands
Nobody wants the offense to suck at passing. What we want is for the offense to be good at passing, and the defense to be good at stopping the pass. When both of those things are true, then play calling / game planning is the deciding factor, which is how it ought to be.

P much. Passing game seems to fail mostly independant of CBs, which isn't interesting for CB owners. Good CBs now have about 45% pass allowance across the board, but only ~8% PD rate. What is happening to the other 47% of incomplete passes? Falling in the dirt, dropped, scared of nearby defenders.. whatever it is, it's pretty unsatisfying to watch. If you could see, say, 2 PDs per game, that'd be some good feedback.

Originally posted by bhall43
Well now you are just playing dumb.

yea ur right that was a stretch,

but the fact is TT turned his "run only team" into a pretty pass heavy team in damn near no time.

If testers are doing this, what effect does this have on the user base?
What does this say about the sim?

Originally posted by brock86
P much. Passing game seems to fail mostly independant of CBs, which isn't interesting for CB owners. Good CBs now have about 45% pass allowance across the board, but only ~8% PD rate. What is happening to the other 47% of incomplete passes? Falling in the dirt, dropped, scared of nearby defenders.. whatever it is, it's pretty unsatisfying to watch. If you could see, say, 2 PDs per game, that'd be some good feedback.

Good, you are getting it.

Originally posted by brock86
Good CBs now have about 45% pass allowance across the board, but only ~8% PD rate.

There's more to interrupting passing than jumping in front of the ball and knocking it down.

The low PD% probably also has a lot to do with teams running Cover 0's so they can blitz more.

Defenders try not to jump the pass if they are the last man.

Originally posted by Corndog
The low PD% probably also has a lot to do with teams running Cover 0's so they can blitz more.

Defenders try not to jump the pass if they are the last man.

Well, this is useful info. Makes since because everyone figured out that the best way to stop the pass is to get to the QB. Thanks C-dog.