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RaphaneKnight
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lol Bevo raging like crazy. You think you'll have a chance going after me like that? You might want to check the scoreboard

Just because I don't create bunch of me-threads 24/7 doesn't mean I just came out of nowhere in S20. Do your homework, based on tournament championship wins, there isn't any coordinators in GLB that has won more than RK buddy . I have been winning since S13, it's nothing new. Also only coordinator to win 2 gold league championship doing everything without sharing coordinating role. Might as well add the 3rd one for this argument since you think builds play the biggest role. You have a tendency of flip flopping but can't have it both ways. I try to down play my role this season since I believe coordinating is what wins games in PW not builds but in this case you just made me a 3 time gold league champion

Now let's see this epic OC=Bevo. Did some research to see if this kid is as good as he say he is. Nope, hasn't won anything until he merged with 85B. Got lucky in S20 with the right builds where he had zmj screaming exploit. Funny how you think builds is what made maine successful. Before I knocked your team out silly and swept everything in S20, everyone thought your team had the best builds.Your players were constantly getting wide open despite double triple coverage and was annoying the hell out of everyone. While except for 1 HB (mccollums), all our rbs were closer to a power back with couple of them having 70ish speed. I know exactly what you were going to call and is why I beat you all the time. It's called good scouting/game planning. Don't try to downplay superior game planning when you know better Maine were at disadvantage build wise with 7-man depth at O-line and builds not really fit for S20 sim.

As for jkid2, Maine was actually about the only team that went toe to toe with FGC in their prime and this is despite jkid2 having significant advantage of building all the players himself while we suffered from inactive agents and bad builds due to mistakes by some of our agents. I swept the tournament while he edged out in playoff. At the end we had a 1:1 win/loss ratio. Hardly punching bag and hardly based on facts, just another emotional outcry. In a bigger picture, obviously I have won more trophies and accomplished more than him, end of the story.

Originally posted by Bevo05

If they were given a team of good/elite builds. They would be in hunt by the second season at the very minimum and maybe even get it turned around fast enough in the first season to be competitive in the playoffs if they got there.





I actually thought you made a little bit of sense but just reading your posts today, it's red herring lol. Duffman/official guys are upper league legends and his team would be considered one of the best historically in normal league. The guy comes down to PW and it was nothing but failure to him. There are couple of others I've seen fail (Is hell exothermic or endothermic) but I don't know how I can come up with a better example than that. I'm just stating facts buddy. Why does it bother you that upper leaguers tend to fail in PW? Now enough with the red herring and start laying out facts if you want to continue this discussion.
Edited by RaphaneKnight on May 2, 2011 20:49:11
 
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Originally posted by Bevo05
I disagree. I think PW Gold is just as much build oriented as the WL at least looking at the top teams. Once you get past the basics on game planning (i.e. covering outside runs early, tagging running QB's, situational double coverage etc......) then it comes down to builds and RNG. Just looking at the final four teams in the playoffs. If a team had a far superior game plan that made that much difference then the scores would not be 1-2 score games. It comes down to players making a few plays here and there that make the difference and that is based on builds and winning rolls.

I mean according to you everyone uses your defensive scheme that you invented. So why are they not as successful running that defense??? hmmm only leaves builds and/or tactics......

Plus the difference in the points at low levels have far great impact than they do at the higher levels. Meaning the difference between 80 speed and 75 speed is greater than the difference between 135 and 130 speed. And that especially applies to lower attributes where 25 vs 20 has a greater impact then 60 vs 55

But it is just an opinion with no right or wrong answer.



Maybe this bevo guy needs some access to my game reports and see what goes through my mind. I know PW gold used to be tough on the new guys, where is juice, d-town, and those guys when we need'em. You can't possibly say PW gold=WL being the same build oriented league. You are talking about 400 days. By your own words, if you think people can't figure out day 40 builds, isn't it obvious the 400 day builds will have a greater gap between elite teams and non-elite teams.

I was talking to legster recently and I gave him some freedom for Maine and I can't tell you how similar they were with my builds. I'm not saying builds aren't important in PW but based on my experience game planning plays a much bigger role. But that's me but I'm sure you wouldn't understand having that luxury of fielding the entire team all by yourself.

I mean according to you everyone uses your defensive scheme that you invented. So why are they not as successful running that defense??? hmmm only leaves builds and/or tactics......


You are kidding me right? Yeah a lot of guys use my defensive schemes but I don't have any fixed schemes. I change plays based on how I see it. I used to have like thousands of custom plays that would take like 10 min to upload.
Edited by RaphaneKnight on May 2, 2011 19:17:27
 
LordEvil
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there isn't any coordinators in GLB that has won more than RK buddy

I beg to differ
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
there isn't any coordinators in GLB that has won more than RK buddy

I beg to differ


Based on league championship/tournament championship wins in PW. I was mainly talking about the 1st places. I won about 20 tournament championship adding the teams I coordinated in silver league. Not really trying to boast but yeah I thought I would let that out since someone is too lazy to do any research on his own and thinks that I'm an one hit wonderer. (ironically from an one hit wonderer lol)

But you are right, just based on wins as in games, that would be you. You have what 500 wins? That's impressive. I think we are very close in 1st places as well but I think I'm little bit ahead since I coordinated for TP/BNI.
Edited by RaphaneKnight on May 2, 2011 19:28:40
Edited by RaphaneKnight on May 2, 2011 19:26:52
 
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Ive been doing it since season 7 bud, not dissing you but before you even started playing in silver I was OCing and DCing many pee wee teams and championships. Countless tourney wins and what not. I burned out before you even got your feet wet. Like they so though past is the past, it's present day and that's Maine which is good for you. I am just trying anything to keep me interested and playing this game. Also I never had the chance to play any silver or copper tourneys since I have been in gold since it's inception or I probably would of had a lot more.

Also why you always refer to yourself in the 3rd person, kind of annoying
 
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Originally posted by DirtyMike
Bevo,

Gold/West was anything but spectacular competition last season. There were a few teams with their try face on but quite a few teams on cruise control taking a break to recharge the batteries, not to mention teams that were CPU or had no business in Gold to begin with. So you being an epic OC that made all the difference in the world to Gerr's team.. well I don't buy into that. Gerr could have got there on his own last season IMO. Not taking anything away from you Gerr cause we have played vs each other many times and my opinion is based on experience.

Also Bevo to call out RK and try to discredit his abilities in this game is ReDonkulous. Bottom line he has hardware/scoreboard and you don't. With a quick check over S20 it looks like RK was 4>0 vs UT Pimps. To say he's JKids playoff punching bag is a douchbag thing to say tbh.

There are a few Agents/Owners that continually rise to the top every season and with that being said there are even fewer at the very top. Any given season in the past it has never been a surprise that RK is at the top tier in this game.

Hmm cant wait for S22, I hope I can stay motivated.





Thanks mike, I hope you get motivated because we all know how good you are. For most part of your career, dirty inc has always been one of the most feared team. I know you are not the type of guy that make excuses but the eagle and I know you were busy and I think I remember you being sick. You are just too classy to bring these things out.

I remember back in silver league when you got the best of me. You guys were one of the few teams where our smash mouth football just didn't work. Good times I missed the days where we would just shake hands like a man and say GG without all the whining. It's definitely one of the reasons why I quit just looking back from now. GL this season!
 
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3rd person? Isn't that like "Cocojedi is posting in this thread."?
 
Nif
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rk just said up yours baby

this offseason jsut keeps getting better
 
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Originally posted by RaphaneKnight

lol Bevo raging like crazy. You think you'll have a chance going after me like that? You might want to check the scoreboard


I am not raging one bit....just having a little fun. Seems you are the one raging. One little cheap jab and you post your entire GLB resume......LOL
Especially when several post later
"I don't discredit RK at all. He is great and one of the top notch team builders/Coor/player builders etc..... "
"And the simple fact is Maine is back to back champions. Best team in PW until someone proves otherwise. And RK had a lot to do with it. That isn't really news to anyone........"

Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
Now let's see this epic OC=Bevo. Did some research to see if this kid is as good as he say he is. Nope, hasn't won anything until he merged with 85B. Got lucky in S20 with the right builds where he had zmj screaming exploit. Funny how you think builds is what made maine successful. Before I knocked your team out silly and swept everything in S20, everyone thought your team had the best builds.Your players were constantly getting wide open despite double triple coverage and was annoying the hell out of everyone


I never once have said I have won anything. Nor have I said I was en epic OC. Nor done anything to promote myself as anything other than a good Coor that has had some recent success. And those people were wrong. Maine had the better overall builds than the Pimps IMO.


 
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Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
I actually thought you made little bit sense but just reading your posts today, it's red herring lol. Duffman/official guys are upper league legends and his team would be considered one of the best historically in normal league. The guy comes down to PW and it was nothing but failure to him. There are couple of others I've seen fail (Is hell exothermic or endothermic) but I don't know how I can come up with a better example than that. I'm just stating facts buddy. Why does it bother you that upper leaguers tend to fail in PW? Now enough with the red herring and start laying out facts if you want to continue this discussion.


Sorry don't know who duffman is nor what he did down in PeeWee. Nor the circumstances of why he/they failed.

My argument is based purely on speculation. As there is just hasn't been enough to truly try it and stick with it. That is why it is an opinion.

Are we just going to go in circles? I was an upper leaguer (still am just waiting 2 years to rebuild a team lol GLB )and have had success in Gold. So yes it has been done. and quite frankly they are better coor's up there. So it is not that big a stretch to me think those guys could have success in Pee Wee Gold.

It doesn't bother me one bit if they fail or don't. Just a good discussion to take up the off season boring time since there really is no right or wrong answer and only opinion

Edited by Bevo05 on May 2, 2011 20:50:09
 
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Originally posted by Nif
rk just said up yours baby

this offseason jsut keeps getting better


I have had more fun this off season than any other

 
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Originally posted by Bevo05
Sorry don't know who duffman is nor what he did down in PeeWee. Nor the circumstances of why he/they failed.



Pretty sure he had like 3 or 4 people actually pay him money to be their DC. I remember a forum post where he basically was selling his talents and he took a lot of heat for it but no one really debated that he was one of the best DC's in the game. Came out of USAPL I'm pretty sure.

He came down to peewee presumably to burn off his remaining flex. Pretty much bought himself a silver championship in the fact that no one else in silver was boosting at the time.Then he got raped in Gold...1-15 or something.
 
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Originally posted by Bevo05
I never once have said I have won anything. Nor have I said I was en epic OC. Nor done anything to promote myself as anything other than a good Coor that has had some recent success. And those people were wrong. Maine had the better overall builds than the Pimps IMO.




Hardly raging, more like toying if you ask me. You can go further and call it educating Fact is, you know better there is no reason for me to rage. I think it's pretty obvious why.

Well you did sound like you were about to rage until you backed off. Check your earlier posts lol

And nope it's not the builds. If I remember correctly it was Maine that played with 52-man roster and how can you forget your team losing to TP despite the CE advantage. You just even admitted how big of a difference 5-6 speed makes here. It must've been the game planning right? And about success, I don't know man you need more than 1 good season.
 
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Let's be honest here people, Trial Time owns everybody at all levels of the game. And at life.

I heard one time Trial Time encountered Chuck Norris and forced him to roundhouse kick himself in the face. Nobody can top that guy.
 
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Originally posted by 1kwerdna
Originally posted by Bevo05

Sorry don't know who duffman is nor what he did down in PeeWee. Nor the circumstances of why he/they failed.


He came down to peewee presumably to burn off his remaining flex. Pretty much bought himself a silver championship in the fact that no one else in silver was boosting at the time.Then he got raped in Gold...1-15 or something.


he went AWOL after the first Rnd in gold I believe, and then it was discovered that all of the agents on his team went nonactive also ...multi much?
 
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