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So I decided not to watch much college football this weekend..

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Boise State loses 1 lousy fuckin game and gets forced to play Utah. The BCS is so afraid that a non BCS team will beat one of their teams they bitch out and always make them play each other. What a fuckin bunch of bullshit!

Even more evidence that the BCS is a fraud. We need to get rid of it as a Championship deciding system and we need to use it only for rankings and then have a playoff system for the top 8 teams.

What does the Las Vegas bowl have to do with the BCS?

AP poll puts Boise State at 10. They don't get to play in your playoff, either, so what did the BCS do wrong here?

Edit - oh you want to use the BCS for the top 8. Okay, Boise State is 11th there. Great work.

WL conference rankings look sort of nice with two OPL teams occupying the top spots...

Originally posted by kadafitcd
So I decided not to watch much college football this weekend.. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Boise State loses 1 lousy fuckin game and gets forced to play Utah. The BCS is so afraid that a non BCS team will beat one of their teams they bitch out and always make them play each other. What a fuckin bunch of bullshit!
The Broncos are the cowards. They only schedule one or two legitimate opponents at the beginning of the season when upsets are the most likely. Meanwhile TCU will play anyone any time, as they did when the beat Oklahoma mid-season a couple of years back. If Boise would schedule four quality non-conference opponents instead of pussing out with Toledo and Wyoming, then maybe they would get some respect. Until then, they, their fans, and the gullible media all need to shut the fuck up.

Originally posted by kadafitcd
Even more evidence that the BCS is a fraud. We need to get rid of it as a Championship deciding system and we need to use it only for rankings and then have a playoff system for the top 8 teams.
A playoff system would be idiotic for college football.

Originally posted by NiborRis
What does the Las Vegas bowl have to do with the BCS?

AP poll puts Boise State at 10. They don't get to play in your playoff, either, so what did the BCS do wrong here?

Edit - oh you want to use the BCS for the top 8. Okay, Boise State is 11th there. Great work.

The top 8 should be done in a playoff whether the team I'm rooting for or not is in it. I said it out of context as the BSU v. UU game has nothing to do with the top 8.

I'm venting asshole leave me alone! I just want BSU to have the chance to face a powerhouse BCS team. They beat Oklahoma and ever since the BCS is afraid to give them a chance.

Originally posted by jdbolick

A playoff system would be idiotic for college football.


Then why do they use it at almost every level of college football?

Originally posted by jdbolick

A playoff system would be idiotic for college football.


You're an idiot. Tell me one other team sport that decides it's championship without a playoff? It's ridiculously hard to do it with College football I agree. But they do it with College basketball. So it's not impossible. All I am saying is that they need a way to figure out who's the best in the top of their rankings.

As far as the BSU vs. TCU. Who won last year? TCU shouldn't be taken any more serious than Boise. I'm not a BSU fan I'm a Notre Dame / Georgia fan. I'm a native Idahoan who wants well for his states team and I also attended U of U.

Originally posted by GMathiasf
Then why do they use it at almost every level of college football?
Because no one cares about the lower levels of college football, so a playoff is the only way they can generate any interest at all. In D1-A, the regular season already has tremendous exposure, which a playoff would only diminish. In a playoff system, Auburn's comeback victory over Alabama wouldn't even matter except to fans of the teams involved. Auburn still would have won the SEC, and they still would have been in a playoff. Meanwhile in the BCS system there was enormous suspense because the Tigers probably needed to win in order to play for the national championship. Plus, playoffs are constructed under the facile assumption that winning one game makes you "the better team," yet we all understand that upsets do happen. I have a voluminous, detailed explanation for all the many reasons why a college football playoff is a horrendous idea, so I won't post that here, but I hope that one day I'll eventually get around to putting it up on a website.


Originally posted by kadafitcd
You're an idiot. Tell me one other team sport that decides it's championship without a playoff? It's ridiculously hard to do it with College football I agree. But they do it with College basketball.
Compelling argument, chump. Who cares about college basketball's regular season? No one. And if you actually are a fan of college basketball, then you know the "best team" actually rarely wins the NCAA tournament. The odds of any particular team winning six consecutive games against progressively more difficult opponents are quite small. It's a matter of luck as much as it is of skill. In fact, the team with the best regular season record very rarely wins its league's playoff in virtually any sport. That goes for MLB, the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, etc.

Originally posted by jdbolick

A playoff system would be idiotic for college football.


An old quote comes to mind. It says something about a fool keeping his mouth shut lest everyone know he's a fool.
Do you remember that one?

Nah, of course you don't. Else, why would you have posted something so mind-blowingly stupid?

Originally posted by InLondonWeTrust
An old quote comes to mind. It says something about a fool keeping his mouth shut lest everyone know he's a fool.
Do you remember that one?

Nah, of course you don't. Else, why would you have posted something so mind-blowingly stupid?

Wlers only bro

Originally posted by jdbolick

Compelling argument, chump. Who cares about college basketball's regular season? No one. And if you actually are a fan of college basketball, then you know the "best team" actually rarely wins the NCAA tournament. The odds of any particular team winning six consecutive games against progressively more difficult opponents are quite small. It's a matter of luck as much as it is of skill. In fact, the team with the best regular season record very rarely wins its league's playoff in virtually any sport. That goes for MLB, the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, etc.

How do you know the best team wins the championship in college football when teams that have a perfect record don't even get the chance?

I would argue for 4 teams rather than 8. There always seems to be an argument for 3 if not 4 teams that are deserving but rarely do the 5-8 teams have a reason to be there. It would only take one more game so really the only reason they don't do this is so the Boises and TCUs don't have the chance to take out the "powerhouses."

Then again, I might as well not even try because I know you are always right.

Originally posted by InLondonWeTrust
An old quote comes to mind. It says something about a fool keeping his mouth shut lest everyone know he's a fool. Do you remember that one? Nah, of course you don't. Else, why would you have posted something so mind-blowingly stupid?
If you want to debate it, we can start a thread in the Sports forum and I'll be glad to thoroughly humiliate you. I've done the same to national columnists to the point that they stopped supporting a playoff system, but feel free to think you'll achieve a different result. If you're not willing to back up your talk, though, then don't post any more on the subject.


Originally posted by Galkuris
How do you know the best team wins the championship in college football when teams that have a perfect record don't even get the chance?
No system is perfect, but the best means we have for evaluating team quality is really subjective assessment over the course of a full schedule. Hell, look at Michigan State vis-a-vis Wisconsin. Does anyone who didn't attend MSU think that the Spartans are actually the better team overall, even though they obviously won the head-to-head match-up? No, because the entirety of the schedule let us see that Wisconsin is capable of obliterating solid teams, whereas Michigan State had to scrape by them.

Originally posted by
I would argue for 4 teams rather than 8.
A "plus-one" model isn't terribly objectionable because it avoids many of the problems associated with the 8, 12, or 16 team scenarios.

Originally posted by
It would only take one more game so really the only reason they don't do this is so the Boises and TCUs don't have the chance to take out the "powerhouses."
Ugh, that is such stupid reasoning. Why would the NCAA be afraid of Boise State or TCU winning? Cinderella stories are great, but for some reason people like you have this illogical, paranoid perception that the BCS wants to shut those teams out. The bowls themselves don't like TCU or Boise because they don't travel well, but the same is true of BCS teams like Miami or Rutgers.

Originally posted by
Then again, I might as well not even try because I know you are always right.
I'm not always right, but I'm definitely about five to ten times smarter than you are, so keeping your mouth shut is probably the wiser course of action.

Boise's conference is the equivalent of winning uncapped minors and whining that you didn't get a chance to play the WL champs .... because the WL champs are OMG skurred.

A conference road game in college football is the toughest game to win. That Nevada team who beat Boise averaged less than 18K fans for their home games last season. Compare that to playing a road game against LSU, Ohio State, or any other program that routinely packs 80-100K fans into the stadium.

In 2009, Vanderbilt averaged more fans in attendance for home games than Boise State.

Go to this link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity

Hit page down 12 times and you'll see Boise's stadium listed. Looks like a pretty serious football conference...

All I'm really pissed about is why the hell did the BCS put BSU vs. Utah. They aren't even ranked closely. But yet they are in a non BCS conference so they get put together. Just let the little guys have a chance against the big dogs don't force them to play each other every fucking year!

the BCS DOES want to keep TCU and BSU out of the major bowl games for the simple fact that you mentioned. They don't have a huge following and they won't make the BCS all the money that they and the Bowl game sponsors want. Cinderella stories are great unless they cost you money. That's the whole point.