Warrior General Games

Originally posted by randey
Can I plz be testerz too?





Honestly though, its true there are a few testers that have me wondering how they were picked. There are a lot of great minds out there in the game that could be tapped in to for testing and improving the sim. But I feel like that has been ignored for some time now. It appears to me that GLB is more concerned with adding on new features in an attempt to keep everyone "entertained" rather than refine the core of the product that has everyone coming back each season.

I'm of the opinion it has been all the crazy and cooky sim exploits, bugs, and querks that has driven many users off in the past, and yet there are still issues in the sim not addressed. Likewise, new issues with the new additions, plus the aggravation of re-learning how to train a player (for example) will drive even more players away.

I don't disagree much with anything you're saying. Trust me, though, you don't want to be a tester. I just literally chuckled a few mins ago, when looking at the test server. Someone who pretends to have every answer to every issue (in fairness, a lot of them aren't bad answers) and has been begging in his own way to be a tester for a very long time has just been added.

Honestly, I think he'll be a good addition, assuming ego and trying to get the edge he has always claimed that the testers have isn't his real motivation. That said, I'd put the odds of him actually being an active tester for more than 1 ssn at just under 2%. In the past 3 ssns, there have been somewhere over 30 testers cycled through, most of them sincerely "great minds." There are maybe 5 that are actually active, and 2 of them are the head scratchers. It can be extremely frustrating when you want to achieve something good, and most start all fired up, only to learn that and give up.

I pretty active and a decent glb mind ( maybe.... Decentish). I'll test stuff!

With that, I'll leave this topic alone.

Here's what I'll do, though, as a parting gift. I'll share the "advantage" I think I've gained this ssn testing. It's all in Catch's writeup, but that write is also long and harder to wrap your mind around than seeing it up close:

A) don't bother saving TPs. Spend them now, before the new system comes out, unless you're under lvl 51ish, and that's just because shopping under that lvl sucks. BTs are more valuable, since that will become the currency for damn near everything.

B) training on light provides a horrible, horrible return in the skills trained. It's pay off is really very little more than the 3 BTs you get from it. It will seriously take someone far better than I am at math to figure out the right way to train and the perfect way will likely change as the dot matures and be different for different types of builds.

C) If you can buy % stuff now, do it. The % stuff costs more to build as the initial AEQ purchase than anything else It costs 60 BTs to build any naked 5% piece, where as it only costs 30 to build a a naked SDC piece for a CB.

D) because all EQ will cost BTs to initially purchase, even the regular +1 stuff, make sure you have bought all the EQ for the various body parts before the new system is in place. Since you can upgrade 2 pieces of regular EQ for each body part for free each ssn, may as well get at least 2 different kinds (1 str and 1 vision, for QBs for example), but don't bother wasting the $ to upgrade it at all, since you'll be able to do that for free.

E) in may cases, I think you'll be better off making your own AEQ than shopping for it. Making a 3 speed & SDC piece costs a total of 70 BTs (40 for the +3 and 30 for the SDC). 70 BTs equals 35 trips to the store. There have been many dots I've searched for a specific piece of AEQ for over a ssn, and never got exactly what I wanted.

All of that is in Catch's post, most of that is already circulating team forums because ppl figured it out from reading's that post and that's all I even pretend to have learn from the test server this ssn.

<3 pp

Originally posted by StiffarmSteve


why do you say that Steve? I like that PP is willing to share info, unlike 2 others I could name that like to keep everything a secret...........................

Originally posted by Brutus Buckeye
why do you say that Steve? I like that PP is willing to share info, unlike 2 others I could name that like to keep everything a secret...........................

"Here's what I'll do, though, as a parting gift."
"All of that is in Catch's post, most of that is already circulating team forums because ppl figured it out from reading's that post and that's all I even pretend to have learn from the test server this ssn. "

This type of shit should be posted for EVERYONE to see, or no one to see...

Its cool that he gave up the info... but just proved everything I stated in my post about having advantages.
If we didn't have this conversation, that never would have been posted and others would have information not accessible to everyone.

Tell me this type of stuff isn't circulating through team forums every season... but you'll never know if your team didn't have a tester that had access to this information.

I'm done complaining in this forum now.

I re-read my post and all I heard was "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" LOL

Originally posted by StiffarmSteve
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This type of shit should be posted for EVERYONE to see, or no one to see...


ummmmmmm, big shooter, it is
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3946719

Before anyone says how hard it is to find, Catch put it in the Admin Announcements on everyone's main page

The ppl circulating it in team forums aren't testers (at least the one's I've seen). They are simply ppl that took the time to study the post that Catch made here for all to see. If you don't read or grasp it, whose fault is that? those other dirty testers that didn't just post what I did to the main forums?

As a side note, I probably should, but I've never posted that kind of stuff on my team's forum...Probably should AFTER it's gone public, that is

Oh, and I did say to begin with that there are advantages, though far less today than 3 ssns ago....I've said that all along. For what it's worth, those advantages are getting smaller still. I know you WWR guys hate Catch with a passion (you have to by default because Tricon still does for once saying something back in ssn 2), but that guy is by far the best thing that has ever happened to GLB. Remember, just because something comes off the test server, doesn't mean the testers wanted it....and just because Catch explains something, it may not mean that it's his baby either. However, chance are he tried to make it the best he could within the confines he was given, just like the better testers do with the changes they are given to test

1. Some of us must be dumb... even the best DC in the APL cause he was pretty excited to get your info.

2. Hate is a strong word. Honestly, I have no problem with Catch at all... He does a good job.

I don't think I have a record of being a hater or complainer of anything but you!

what the hell is going on in here?

Steve: wah wah
PP: blah blah blah
(repeat)

yes?

Originally posted by StiffarmSteve
1. Some of us must be dumb... even the best DC in the APL cause he was pretty excited to get your info.

2. Hate is a strong word. Honestly, I have no problem with Catch at all... He does a good job.

I don't think I have a record of being a hater or complainer of anything but you!

1) Hell, you know who taught me the most about training so far? My DC, just from studying that write-up. Seriously. The write-up came out before it was released for testing. When I had to go through to see everything worked, I say what he was saying. he nailed everything I wrote before I ever saw it. that said, I know the write-up is an OMG wall of text and not easy to follow. I just don't know what else Catch could really do with it.

2) Better hope Tricon doesn't see that part of your post or he'll be pissed and go into one of his tirades LOL

As to your last point, as I just responded in a PM to someone that said they couldn't believe what a ____ you are, I wouldn't have it any other way, and, though you were out of line once way back when (IMO), I've purposefully done nothing but egg you on since I 1st got to APL. I'd been sincerely disappointed if you didn't hate me. It'd suck all the fun out of what we got going on here