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Originally posted by SheVegas
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Originally posted by mikelj


ALL PLAYERS HAVE FLAWS. BUT name a better FS, I am waiting. You cant because ITP is the best in the league. 2 years running. Pretty amazing, CONSIDERING HIS LEVEL. That is my point, pretty easy to be the best when are are at or exceed league avg in level. Not as easy when you are prob at least 5 lvls lower than league avg.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=366822

Maybe not the best in the league, but he plays well.

Comparative stats (Duke : Possible)
Ms Tk : 2:12
Tk/PD Ratio (generally a DB has a low tackle to pd ratio. If it's high either he's not good or his front 7 isn't good): 77/23 : 34/29

It's hard to statistically compare DBs, as I've said. However, having 6 times as many missed tackles is pretty bad. Also, I'm sure that more balls are thrown Possible's way, and he has less PDs than Duke. The best statistical indicator of good DB play is forced incompletion rate (how many times he swats the ball, intercepts it, or knocks it loose from the receiver)

Now I can look through to give you a forced incompletion rate if you want, but if I do and Possible doesn't have the best %, you'll have to concede that he isn't the best. My guess is he isn't even that close with that low of PDs.

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One is he is 7 levels ahead of ITP....2 your team ran and hid once the WPL once announced...3.....The great Duke had 1 tackle against the ABD


You don't understand football if you think a FS having 1 tackle is a bad thing.

Free safeties aren't supposed to play the run even. That's a strong safety's job. When you put 8 in the box, it's almost exclusively the SS.

Also, he said best safety in the league. Not best safety per level. He said he was the lowest level and best safety. Both. That's not true. I could say Spoink is better than most of the DEs in the APL per level (which ofc may or may not be true because he'll need 16 levels before we find that out), but that wouldn't make him good now.

The only reason he has tackles is because he can't defend the pass (a really low pd / tackle ratio tbh) and your front 7 can't play the run.
 
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Besides, the measure of a good player is how he plays in the postseason. That said, we'll see how he does in the postseason.
 
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He is the best FS in the league. Period. By coincidence he is also a low level.
 
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Randey, no use in using sound logic when it comes to the King of the Village Idiots, he is just bitter as usual in that he has failed his team as an owner and once again will not be going to the playoffs. Yes Vegas you beat us, it might happen once every 50 times, but great win for you. The difference between the two of us is that you did nothing after the win except lose, while we picked it up a notch, reworked the AI's and got some good wins to put us in the 5th spot. I am glad that the win against the Riders can be used to make you feel better over the course of yet another losing season...
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Originally posted by soapbox
Besides, the measure of a good player is how he plays in the postseason. That said, we'll see how he does in the postseason.


Really I thought it was how they played in the Super Bowl.....Who cares about the playoffs
 
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Originally posted by mikelj
He is the best FS in the league. Period. By coincidence he is also a low level.


Your own owner even said you're weren't the best right now.

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Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by soapbox

Besides, the measure of a good player is how he plays in the postseason. That said, we'll see how he does in the postseason.


Really I thought it was how they played in the Super Bowl.....Who cares about the playoffs


Not you guys apparently. You don't even bother going
Edited by soapbox on Jul 18, 2009 11:44:25
 
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Here is an easy thing to check for you, how many times has he been the last guy and stopped a TD? Isnt that a major responsiblity of a FS? Now on a fantastic team you can have a subpar FS since your front 7 stop a lot-say on LOL. But on a team that is around .500 you cant have an avg FS, he better be able to get there or else the play is gone. Look at that. HE HAS A SHITLOAD.
 
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Originally posted by rjssob
Randey, no use in using sound logic when it comes to the King of the Village Idiots, he is just bitter as usual in that he has failed his team as an owner and once again will not be going to the playoffs. Yes Vegas you beat us, it might happen once every 50 times, but great win for you. The difference between the two of us is that you did nothing after the win except lose, while we picked it up a notch, reworked the AI's and got some good wins to put us in the 5th spot. I am glad that the win against the Riders can be used to make you feel better over the course of yet another losing season...


Again all I care about is titles...Playoffs don't mean squat....Since we get a mil a game, I am happy as a hound...Enjoy your rankings, and playoff games...You haven';t done squat as far as titles.....So no different then us.....Top it off we beat you head to head
 
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Originally posted by soapbox
Originally posted by mikelj

He is the best FS in the league. Period. By coincidence he is also a low level.


Your own owner even said you're weren't the best right now.

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Originally posted by SheVegas

Originally posted by soapbox


Besides, the measure of a good player is how he plays in the postseason. That said, we'll see how he does in the postseason.


Really I thought it was how they played in the Super Bowl.....Who cares about the playoffs


Not you guys apparently. You don't even bother going


Soapy Dope I said ITP is the best in APL at FS, and the guys you compare him to are not as good and are higher level
 
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Originally posted by soapbox
Originally posted by mikelj

He is the best FS in the league. Period. By coincidence he is also a low level.


Your own owner even said you're weren't the best right now.

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Originally posted by SheVegas

Originally posted by soapbox


Besides, the measure of a good player is how he plays in the postseason. That said, we'll see how he does in the postseason.


Really I thought it was how they played in the Super Bowl.....Who cares about the playoffs


Not you guys apparently. You don't even bother going


Yep Barry Sanders sucked, never made it to a Super Bowl...and how did he do in the playoff game against the Pack...- yardage rushing...Yep he sucks
 
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I love it...Only ABD guys can start a thread and have it go bonkers....We are the real deal Holyfield of APL....And we don't QUIT
 
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Is That Possible (FS)Height: 72in. (6'0") Weight: 191lbs
Created: Season 3, day 18 (Jun 29, 2008)
Team: Angola Blood Diamonds
Agent: mikelj

Conference D Rank 4

Conf All FS D Rank 1

Proof in the pudding
 
rjssob
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Sadly enough you are the equal to Mr Irrelevant in the NFL draft....You really don't have a clue and a superbowl for you is a ridiculous thread like this that means nothing. Tackles in the secondary usually mean the the Receivers are catching passes, so that is not a good thing. You talk about about only titles, put your damn team in a position to get to a title game and make the playoffs once in a while. Instead of being a douche all the time, try doing something to make your team competitive every season....
 
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Originally posted by rjssob
Sadly enough you are the equal to Mr Irrelevant in the NFL draft....You really don't have a clue and a superbowl for you is a ridiculous thread like this that means nothing. Tackles in the secondary usually mean the the Receivers are catching passes, so that is not a good thing. You talk about about only titles, put your damn team in a position to get to a title game and make the playoffs once in a while. Instead of being a douche all the time, try doing something to make your team competitive every season....


Competitive enough to beat you...Let me know when you when an APL title, again maybe if you get Lakes players you will have a chance...Playoffs mean squat
 
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Hmm, look at how he is used, before you say he isnt the best RJ, he played decent against your team, like I said if you had him you would be at least one win better.
 
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