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Ballinbob
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What happened to you guys here? http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=499723 Surely your superior builds can make up for the little bit of level difference.
Edited by Ballinbob on May 24, 2009 12:13:42
 
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Originally posted by Ballinbob
What happened to you guys here? http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=499723 Surely your superior builds can make up for the little bit of level difference.



LOL. I'm sure there is some smart ass excuse for that one.
 
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Originally posted by Porch
It is interesting and a sign that many teams are having problems paying the salaries.

The real question is what will teams in 'A' do. For the number of level 40+ players many teams do not have the stadium keep this and pay for equip.

A serious concern would have to be the Jackolopes who have not even started the level 200 seating yet nor upgraded the seating. They have to be hurting money wise and even a playoff run probably doesn't save them. I would have major concerns if I was on that team.

I think the Nomads, Seagulls and Borderslav Pirates are also hurting to some extent.

A few others should just fold now but they are all bottom dwelling teams so it won't matter much.

Just curious as to how some of these teams plan to be able to handle equip and other issues.


Seagulls arent hurting at all financially and equipment is well taken care of...We can thank our complete give up season 1 on that....

 
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The question isn't at this young stage where the equip costs are not that damaging.

We are talking next year and your team probably doesn't have enough and with that won't end up with enough the next year.
 
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Just looking again.

The Seagulls to do a full upgrade will likely need at least 64M with a project income of 50M.

Again to get that 50 you need to have already purchased the remaining 200 sections this year and to upgrade every seat in the stadium. Not sure how much that runs but that is huge drop so you will be at least 14M. That means about 14 Seagulls will not be getting equipment next year.



 
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According to our last budget check. (4 days ago) we are still looking good. Our chemistry hasnt really changed much this year from beginning to end. We have ALL the 200 sections purchased already just waiting for offseason to hit. Plenty of cash in equipment fund to check out to pay for current salary as well as can still take out the loan if need be. We had roughly 25million spent on equipment/seating this season and we are estimating a need around 35million for seats and equipment. Our turnover is going to be very small, 6 people tops, and that allows us to find people that have the right build and right level....Our main concern is needing a home playoff game next season to be able to afford the first 300 section, but time will tell on that one.
 
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you will need much much more than 35 mil for next seasons upgrades and EQ...
 
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Originally posted by jestisp
According to our last budget check. (4 days ago) we are still looking good. Our chemistry hasnt really changed much this year from beginning to end. We have ALL the 200 sections purchased already just waiting for offseason to hit. Plenty of cash in equipment fund to check out to pay for current salary as well as can still take out the loan if need be. We had roughly 25million spent on equipment/seating this season and we are estimating a need around 35million for seats and equipment. Our turnover is going to be very small, 6 people tops, and that allows us to find people that have the right build and right level....Our main concern is needing a home playoff game next season to be able to afford the first 300 section, but time will tell on that one.


How are you getting 35M for seats and equip?

2 - level 56 - 6.4M
6- level 48 - 14.4M
19- level 40 - 30.4M
6- level 32 - 4.8M

That is easily 56M. That does not include all of the seat upgrades which I have no figured at all. Add in more upgrades which would be about 9M and salary about 8M you are looking at 73M in expenses and possibly more.

Not sure which numbers you think are wrong.

The incomes figures to be about 50M. That is 8 home game sales of a complete 200 section stadium and concession sales. It also figures the prices at the FPB rates which assume to be higher than yours.

 
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Going to the movies in a few mins, but when I get home I will pull and post our budget. Also are you only looking at those who will need upgrades next season only.
 
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Originally posted by Porch
Originally posted by jestisp

According to our last budget check. (4 days ago) we are still looking good. Our chemistry hasnt really changed much this year from beginning to end. We have ALL the 200 sections purchased already just waiting for offseason to hit. Plenty of cash in equipment fund to check out to pay for current salary as well as can still take out the loan if need be. We had roughly 25million spent on equipment/seating this season and we are estimating a need around 35million for seats and equipment. Our turnover is going to be very small, 6 people tops, and that allows us to find people that have the right build and right level....Our main concern is needing a home playoff game next season to be able to afford the first 300 section, but time will tell on that one.


How are you getting 35M for seats and equip?

2 - level 56 - 6.4M
6- level 48 - 14.4M
19- level 40 - 30.4M
6- level 32 - 4.8M

That is easily 56M. That does not include all of the seat upgrades which I have no figured at all. Add in more upgrades which would be about 9M and salary about 8M you are looking at 73M in expenses and possibly more.

Not sure which numbers you think are wrong.

The incomes figures to be about 50M. That is 8 home game sales of a complete 200 section stadium and concession sales. It also figures the prices at the FPB rates which assume to be higher than yours.



A few arent coming back next season, quite a few dont need full equipment as they are still earning BTs for advanced equip that work out better. My figures are 48 million on equipment, 8.5million on salary. Seat upgrades will cost 4Million for a grand cost of 60.5million...This does not include the cost of stadium upgrades next season, as we are hoping for playoff games to help with that.

Budget (still waiting on wife to get ready)
Ticket Sales +51,216,000
Concessions +10,000,000
Stadium -4,000,000
Salary -8,500,000
Equipment -48,000,000

Leaves me with 716,000 and no mony for the 300 section. But if I get a home playoff game this will be taken care of.

So far every year I have been within a million of my budget. So I doubt I will be off by much this year.
 
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I think your ticket sales are way off.

Maybe I missed something but I think you will do well to hit 40M in ticket sales.

The rest I can't argue with but that would be a 9M shortage which is pretty big. AEQ does cost money as well so you can't completely ignore those costs.

100 sideline 10000 95 950000
100 end zone 7500 75 562500
100 corner 10000 89 890000
100 club 2600 225 585000
200 endzone 4200 53 222600
200 suite 500 500 250000
200 sideline 8400 75 630000
200 corner 12600 62 781200
200 club 1060 160 169600

Not sure of the format will work but that gets you to only about 5M a game. That gets you only to 40M for the year.


 
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Originally posted by Porch
Originally posted by jestisp

According to our last budget check. (4 days ago) we are still looking good. Our chemistry hasnt really changed much this year from beginning to end. We have ALL the 200 sections purchased already just waiting for offseason to hit. Plenty of cash in equipment fund to check out to pay for current salary as well as can still take out the loan if need be. We had roughly 25million spent on equipment/seating this season and we are estimating a need around 35million for seats and equipment. Our turnover is going to be very small, 6 people tops, and that allows us to find people that have the right build and right level....Our main concern is needing a home playoff game next season to be able to afford the first 300 section, but time will tell on that one.


How are you getting 35M for seats and equip?

2 - level 56 - 6.4M
6- level 48 - 14.4M
19- level 40 - 30.4M
6- level 32 - 4.8M

That is easily 56M. That does not include all of the seat upgrades which I have no figured at all. Add in more upgrades which would be about 9M and salary about 8M you are looking at 73M in expenses and possibly more.

Not sure which numbers you think are wrong.

The incomes figures to be about 50M. That is 8 home game sales of a complete 200 section stadium and concession sales. It also figures the prices at the FPB rates which assume to be higher than yours.



not to mention the fact that they are going to have to recruit 6 players and pay for their equip... btw he said they would be getting 6 players
 
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Originally posted by Madcow8me
Originally posted by Porch

Originally posted by jestisp


According to our last budget check. (4 days ago) we are still looking good. Our chemistry hasnt really changed much this year from beginning to end. We have ALL the 200 sections purchased already just waiting for offseason to hit. Plenty of cash in equipment fund to check out to pay for current salary as well as can still take out the loan if need be. We had roughly 25million spent on equipment/seating this season and we are estimating a need around 35million for seats and equipment. Our turnover is going to be very small, 6 people tops, and that allows us to find people that have the right build and right level....Our main concern is needing a home playoff game next season to be able to afford the first 300 section, but time will tell on that one.


How are you getting 35M for seats and equip?

2 - level 56 - 6.4M
6- level 48 - 14.4M
19- level 40 - 30.4M
6- level 32 - 4.8M

That is easily 56M. That does not include all of the seat upgrades which I have no figured at all. Add in more upgrades which would be about 9M and salary about 8M you are looking at 73M in expenses and possibly more.

Not sure which numbers you think are wrong.

The incomes figures to be about 50M. That is 8 home game sales of a complete 200 section stadium and concession sales. It also figures the prices at the FPB rates which assume to be higher than yours.



not to mention the fact that they are going to have to recruit 6 players and pay for their equip... btw he said they would be getting 6 players


it balances if they lose some also.
 
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Originally posted by Porch
Originally posted by Madcow8me

Originally posted by Porch


Originally posted by jestisp



According to our last budget check. (4 days ago) we are still looking good. Our chemistry hasnt really changed much this year from beginning to end. We have ALL the 200 sections purchased already just waiting for offseason to hit. Plenty of cash in equipment fund to check out to pay for current salary as well as can still take out the loan if need be. We had roughly 25million spent on equipment/seating this season and we are estimating a need around 35million for seats and equipment. Our turnover is going to be very small, 6 people tops, and that allows us to find people that have the right build and right level....Our main concern is needing a home playoff game next season to be able to afford the first 300 section, but time will tell on that one.


How are you getting 35M for seats and equip?

2 - level 56 - 6.4M
6- level 48 - 14.4M
19- level 40 - 30.4M
6- level 32 - 4.8M

That is easily 56M. That does not include all of the seat upgrades which I have no figured at all. Add in more upgrades which would be about 9M and salary about 8M you are looking at 73M in expenses and possibly more.

Not sure which numbers you think are wrong.

The incomes figures to be about 50M. That is 8 home game sales of a complete 200 section stadium and concession sales. It also figures the prices at the FPB rates which assume to be higher than yours.



not to mention the fact that they are going to have to recruit 6 players and pay for their equip... btw he said they would be getting 6 players


it balances if they lose some also.


not really, they will have to over pay to get some good players, also, depending on the players leaving, they already have their equip, and the people they bring in, prob wont have it
 
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Originally posted by jestisp
Going to the movies in a few mins, but when I get home I will pull and post our budget. Also are you only looking at those who will need upgrades next season only.


What did u go see?
 
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