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Season 1, Southeast Asia Pro League, GM of Compton Cougars
Zeta Conference Champ
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Boston Massacre
USA AA #4 (Eastern Conference)
Cash: $56,159.80
Next Game: 05/05/2008 vs Dallas Lampshades (in 20:37:23)
Last Game: L 10-24

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Lv. 12
Rob Eversleigh (WR)
Team: Compton Cougars
Next Game: 05/06/2008 at More Cowbells (in 36:37:23)
Last Game: W 20-19 (7 Rec, 67yds, 0 TD)
Lv. 4
Thomas Dean Rathman (FB)
Team: Compton Cougars
Next Game: 05/06/2008 at More Cowbells (in 36:37:23)
Last Game: W 20-19 (1 Rush, 1yds; 2 Rec, -4yds; 0 TD)

Originally posted by sf49r09
Originally posted by krwynn

Originally posted by trauty


They need to come down on teams that do this. Really make an example out of somebody or this is going to continue to happen. This affects me little at the moment, but if it continues to be allowed it will eventually make a mockery of every league in this game.

I agree. BAN


you agree because your upset about the loss, no cheating went on , the trades are fine


See earlier post. Your behind. I guess you're to busy trying to cover your tracks.

Originally posted by sf49r09
here is no cheating here are the trades players were involved in all the trades

Whether or not "cheating" has happened depends on intent. Two owners have colluded in order to stack one team, at the expense of the other. That's called collusion. The fact that both owners agreed to do it doesn't make the trades fair, it makes the arrangement collusion.

The trades are HORRENDOUS for the Massacre. This site isn't running a MMO economics simulator. One team got significantly worse from the transactions, and the other got significantly better - and both owners explicitly agreed to do just that.

I dont think they will be banned because everything is on the up and up and within the rules.

The trades aren't the issue guys. Its the fact a farm team system exists with in a single region that has the danger of both teams ending up on each others schedule.


I think there is some anti-farm team bias going on here, which is perfectly fine in my mind, just not in this manner.

Originally posted by RunningMn9
Originally posted by sf49r09

here is no cheating here are the trades players were involved in all the trades

Whether or not "cheating" has happened depends on intent. Two owners have colluded in order to stack one team, at the expense of the other. That's called collusion. The fact that both owners agreed to do it doesn't make the trades fair, it makes the arrangement collusion.

The trades are HORRENDOUS for the Massacre. This site isn't running a MMO economics simulator. One team got significantly worse from the transactions, and the other got significantly better - and both owners explicitly agreed to do just that.


BINGO....we have a winner!

Originally posted by RunningMn9
Originally posted by sf49r09

here is no cheating here are the trades players were involved in all the trades

Whether or not "cheating" has happened depends on intent. Two owners have colluded in order to stack one team, at the expense of the other. That's called collusion. The fact that both owners agreed to do it doesn't make the trades fair, it makes the arrangement collusion.

The trades are HORRENDOUS for the Massacre. This site isn't running a MMO economics simulator. One team got significantly worse from the transactions, and the other got significantly better - and both owners explicitly agreed to do just that.

No because the cougars trades just as much mid to high level players

Originally posted by sbuck143
I dont think they will be banned because everything is on the up and up and within the rules.

The trades aren't the issue guys. Its the fact a farm team system exists with in a single region that has the danger of both teams ending up on each others schedule.


I think there is some anti-farm team bias going on here, which is perfectly fine in my mind, just not in this manner.
HOW ABOUT EVERY ONE READ THIS. he is right only conflict is teams might end up in same league

so how is this farming? where have we traded players back and forward from our team to their team? our BACKUPS are going to their team. As our backups continue to level, so will our starters so where would we put them? ahead of our starters? we are also trading cash to even out the deals, not sure if you guys noticed that.

ANd this is not a farm system, 3 trades were made and that was it. SO how can you call this a farm set up

2 level 11's for a 7, 3, 1 and $100 k cash. In the current market a level 11 at those positions goes for around $300k (might even find some people willing to go as high as $400-500k, depending on how desperate they are and how much cash they have). A level 7 WR goes for around $150-200k. A level 3 DT might get you $80-100k and a level 1 guard might go for $40-50k if you can find somebody desperate.

So this trade is basically $600k (on the way low end, with a possibility of these 2 guys selling for somewhere around $800k-$1million)to a maximum of maybe $450k for the other side. This trade is totally lopsided. Nobody in their right mind would make this trade given the current market for high level players.

-- Andy

squeal little piggy...

Originally posted by trauty
2 level 11's for a 7, 3, 1 and $100 k cash. In the current market a level 11 at those positions goes for around $300k (might even find some people willing to go as high as $400-500k, depending on how desparate they are and how much cash they have). A level 7 WR goes for around $150-200k. A level 3 DT might get you $80-100k and a level 1 guard might go for $40-50k if you can find somebody desparate.

So this trade is basically $600k (on the way low end, with a possibility of these 2 guys selling for somewhere around $800k-$1million)to a maximum of maybe $450k for the other side. This trade is totally lopsided. Nobody in their right mind would make this trade given the current market for high level players.

-- Andy

you let them decide what they wanna do in their right mind

3 trades between the same teams... Check
GM the same on both teams... Check
One team consistently get the higher player... Check
Lots of denial and the GM suddenly is no longer the GM...Check

What other teams are you trading with? Do you have 3 trades with other teams that are as lopsided in regards to player levels?

You're gonna have to do some more talking. Still smells like collusion.

so you trade back ups to become starters, what happens to the starters.. do they become back ups? and that benefits who?

Originally posted by trauty
2 level 11's for a 7, 3, 1 and $100 k cash. In the current market a level 11 at those positions goes for around $300k (might even find some people willing to go as high as $400-500k, depending on how desparate they are and how much cash they have). A level 7 WR goes for around $150-200k. A level 3 DT might get you $80-100k and a level 1 guard might go for $40-50k if you can find somebody desparate.

So this trade is basically $600k (on the way low end, with a possibility of these 2 guys selling for somewhere around $800k-$1million)to a maximum of maybe $450k for the other side. This trade is totally lopsided. Nobody in their right mind would make this trade given the current market for high level players.

-- Andy

you are an idiot, it doesnt even let you trade 300,000 for a lvl 11