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Bladnach
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by jbleich

Wrong. And if I have to explain why you wont understand it anyways.

When you decided to post this, what reaction were you going for? It's mind-boggling that people continue to provoke me, then cry about it when I fire back.

Again, Alpine isn't split among multiple seasons the way that chronoaug claimed. In fact, I don't know anyone who is. You're not going to be 25% S3, 25% S4, 25% S5, and 25% S6, then replace each 25% as they hit the second season of decline. You don't do that because that roster isn't going to be good enough to compete against teams that are mostly at plateau. So yes, you would be able to weather decline better than those others teams, but it just means you'll stay mediocre for a long time. To be realistically competitive, you need a high percentage of dots from the same season, which means a down period once those dots hit the end of their careers.


We'll probably replace most the season 3-4 dots with season 6-7 dots this coming season. Then the next season we will try to replace the season 4-5 dots with 7-8 and so on. My point was that a lot of teams start with a core group of players or get a lot of guys 1season and then ride them into the ground and then are overwhelmed by having to recruit an entire team from scratch and then just gut. It's easier when you do it bit by bit. Is it still a lot of work? Hell yea. Because not only do you have to replace the older guys but also younger guys who jump to another team, guys who retire early to start on a slowbuild team, guys who go inactive,etc... If it wasn't for that second set of dot losses it probably would be a steady 30% a season because we've been planning on decline since it was announced season 9 (have had a season 3 hb starting since season 8). Won usapl gold, had an off year in WL (also was in the toughest conference in GLB history with 5 unbeatbable teams) and now are in line for the 2seed in usapl again. It can work


Is a team at it's best if they have all 1season of players and then all 55 peak? Yea, of course but they'll be in big trouble if they don't have a farm team of other dots in their 68-72peak coming in. Most teams (including alpine) have mostly season 3-4 guys peaking (don't forget that 1st season decline is pretty overrated) at key positions. Then we have season 4-6 guys who will still be on the team next season.

Pretty sure that's what bort envisioned when he started the decline system. I do think that we need another season of plateau so teams don't have to recruit the sheer volume every offseason because there honestly aren't enough pro dots for everyone to do that. I think 2seasons plateau instead of 1 would enable teams to battle decline a bit better and essentially have 3 seasons to recruit an entirely new roster instead of the 1-2 now. Recruiting was supposed to be part of the "football experience".
Edited by chronoaug on Feb 24, 2010 10:21:54
 
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Originally posted by F8n4tune
Only Bort knows who the majority is/are and let's get real here they are sitting on flex and won't be buying anymore soon , can we agree on this ?

So with that being said , where is the NEW MONEY going to come from that will/would be needed to keep the game alive ? I've said in this thread this is a good thing but unless it includes the whole game it's just another band aide fix that WILL have to be fixed again a few seasons down the line unless it includes eveyone.


im sure if there was an alarming need for new money at this second...they would have probably seen it.
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
No Way....PT and Stern...


wow, disgraceful.
 
Lions2x
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Originally posted by Snickerling
This thread makes me giggle.

Temper tantrums aplenty.

It's simple. Man up and field a team in the league you're in or start the fuck over and start doing things the right way.

Or come here and threaten to never spend another dime on this game because bort took away your advantage over all the other teams trying to do things the right way. Hell... even threaten to quit the game.

I hope you all do the latter. I need more threads to make me giggle.


so are you going to give me my cash back for all the low level farm dots that I paid for so that I can move them up in an organized system to play for our 4 top teams..... how about all the cash I spent keeping my teams since season 1..... the problem is everybody is being punished for the few people that took advantage of the system that they were given!

 
jdbolick
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Originally posted by jbleich
Financial system will recieve an overhaul, just wait, it's on the horizon.

Then this rule should wait for that system to be put in place, and it should apply at all levels instead of just the people who drop down (which would include my team, something that it won't do now). I can't tell you how many times I've heard a moderator say "just wait, things are going to change." I've heard it about Project Bort & so many other things that never panned out to anything at all.


Originally posted by bhall43
what if its a long time player who owns as many players at Tautology? but hes buying a new team? he is actually keeping this game more afloat than you.

Tautology has another generation of players waiting in the wings to join MPHD and won't really be affected.


Originally posted by 5STAR
New players are the life blood of this game because even you with your massive amount of skill and contributions will burn out and quit(hopefully soon). Without new players to replace you there is no game.

There hasn't been more than a trickle of new players on GLB for a long, long time. Without the people who build tons of players, this game would already be gone.
 
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No one is being punished though. There is just no more unfair advantage that only a few people had over guys playing honestly. If you're good at building dots, scouting, recruiting, running a franchise and coordinating then you will be ok.




I really hope all these people quit. I doubt they will as it's all spineless posturing. Someone should actually have some balls and just request a permaban and show everyone what they're made of
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick


Originally posted by 5STAR

New players are the life blood of this game because even you with your massive amount of skill and contributions will burn out and quit(hopefully soon). Without new players to replace you there is no game.

There hasn't been more than a trickle of new players on GLB for a long, long time. Without the people who build tons of players, this game would already be gone.


Because the game did not have rules in place to make it noob friendly

This is one of those rules that helps out the new player.
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
No one is being punished though. There is just no more unfair advantage that only a few people had over guys playing honestly. If you're good at building dots, scouting, recruiting, running a franchise and coordinating then you will be ok.




I really hope all these people quit. I doubt they will as it's all spineless posturing. Someone should actually have some balls and just request a permaban and show everyone what they're made of


Most people don't quit because there is money on the table. Lots of people stop boosting. Lots of people quit buying flex and simple play the game a different way.... http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4341

A agent with a bank of flex can and should still play for ever with the right approach.
Edited by rellascout on Feb 24, 2010 10:22:03
 
Voltron
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Awww, jdbolick ignored my post showing his team sitting in the minors gaining tons of cash with a team full of cpu's
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by rellascout
Most people don't quit because there is money on the table. Lots of people stop boosting. Lots of people quit buying flex and simple play the game a different way.... http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4341


and lots of people still boost...and buy flex...*Shrug*
 
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Originally posted by Lions2x
so are you going to give me my cash back for all the low level farm dots that I paid for so that I can move them up in an organized system to play for our 4 top teams..... how about all the cash I spent keeping my teams since season 1..... the problem is everybody is being punished for the few people that took advantage of the system that they were given!



First... I don't have any of your cash.

Second... I'm not being punished at all... so it's not everyone. My team has been around since season 9. Many of the players who were on that season 9 team are still there and will be in S15. We haven't had a farm team to fill roster holes with. We did it the old fashion way... by rolling up our sleeves and getting busy recruiting as best as we can. Are we the best team in our league? Not by a long shot. Are we in the top half... probably. Will we gut and drop down? Never.

Those who have been playing by the rules aren't getting punished. Those who have worked hard to get where they are (without farm teams, gutting or cash games) aren't getting punished because they want to stay where they are.

Third... I still don't have any of your cash. But if you lend me some, we can say I do and then I'll give it back to you.
 
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Originally posted by Voltron
Punishing them how? They are fielding a team right? Then they have no worries. You should go reread the annoucement


my farm team currently operates between AA and lvl 38 every four season, which means every 4th season our mid level teams and low level teams will lose stadium, cash, and fan support...

we are not cash cows, we try and give the guys 2-3 levels of equip and then they move on... no big cash bonuses, no depleting of funds and gutting......
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
No one is being punished though.

Please stop repeating things like this, because it makes you look dumb even though I know that you aren't. Having stadium sections and cash taken away obviously is punishment. Considering that collusion and other rule-breaking involves cash penalties, that's obviously considered punishment in GLB.

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I really hope all these people quit. I doubt they will as it's all spineless posturing. Someone should actually have some balls and just request a permaban and show everyone what they're made of

You haven't noticed that lots of old, respected users have faded away? Where did MightyPoopster go? BigRatUno? These guys had tons of players, but just disappeared. Hopefully they decided to quit and nothing bad happened to them, but there has certainly been a substantial number of large flex users who have left the game.


Originally posted by 5STAR
Because the game did not have rules in place to make it noob friendly This is one of those rules that helps out the new player.

No, it's because GLB satisfies a niche market. It's a very, very expensive game that will only appeal to a small segment of the population.
Edited by jdbolick on Feb 24, 2010 10:23:48
 
rellascout
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Originally posted by bhall43
and lots of people still boost...and buy flex...*Shrug*


Right but look at what I was replying to .....

Originally posted by chronoaug
No one is being punished though. There is just no more unfair advantage that only a few people had over guys playing honestly. If you're good at building dots, scouting, recruiting, running a franchise and coordinating then you will be ok.




I really hope all these people quit. I doubt they will as it's all spineless posturing. Someone should actually have some balls and just request a permaban and show everyone what they're made of


The people are not spinless. They simply speak with their $$$$ and play out until the flex is gone.
Edited by rellascout on Feb 24, 2010 10:24:56
 
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Originally posted by Voltron
Awww, jdbolick ignored my post showing his team sitting in the minors gaining tons of cash with a team full of cpu's

My team won't be affected by the new rule, genius.
 
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