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Originally posted by baumusc
Lol, you are either off your rocker or just trolling.



You left out "tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist" and "anti-Semite".
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

You left out "tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist" and "anti-Semite".


That too. Gnosis and Wormser hate America. That is the only explanation to their ignorance of obvious facts. Remote controlled planes, fire always goes up, a missile hit the Pentagon, the Jews did it. Blah, blah, blah. Spew your anti American hatred in some other forum.
 
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Originally posted by baumusc
That too. Gnosis and Wormser hate America. That is the only explanation to their ignorance of obvious facts. Remote controlled planes, fire always goes up, a missile hit the Pentagon, the Jews did it. Blah, blah, blah. Spew your anti American hatred in some other forum.



Exactly.
 
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OMG... Fucking Idiot!

In your world:

Planes hit the building (we all agree on that). Those planes destroyed the absolute maximum of steel core columns and removed 100% of the fireproofing from areas not associated with the impact zone. A massive fireball escaped the building through the path of least resistance and towards the oxygen supply outside(makes sense). Another fireball traveled against gravity (???) through an area with very little oxygen by finding every elevator shaft available, even though only 3,500 gallons of fuel remained. Not only was that small amount of fuel able to burn the supplies in every office on four floors, it traveled 800 feet down and sideways, igniting everything on the way, and retaining enough energy to explode elevator doors, destroy the lobby area and still leave enough at the 80th floor to bring the steel to a temperature that office fires alone cannot reach. The fire also traveled to the opposite side of the building, through walls that remained intact, and also weakened those steel columns, even though office fires cannot reach temperatures that can do that. The steel, completely disregarded the laws of thermodynamics by heating quicker than calculable data showed was possible. The Elevator doors got "popped open" by the fire ball that had so much energy from somewhere, that it did this for 800 ft and popped 80 separate doors in every elevator in the towers... and it did that in both, because that totally makes sense. The elevator shafts carried a perfect oxygen mixture, even though they were hermetically sealed so that the fire would not do that in those towers. Every witness who claims they heard bombs was wrong, and sally, the office clerk, knows it was jet fuel popping the elevators that she heard (but all others who heard stuff are just wrong). The buildings then gave up and collapsed from fire and impact damage, even though the fire and impact damage on each tower was different they fell exactly the same, cuz that's how buildings play. The buildings then fell at a rate that assumes that the rest of the buildings steel turned into air.

In my world:
Planes hit the buildings. Jet fuel started fires in several locations and had a massive fireball that escaped the building. Linear thermite cutters cut steel in several locations. Explosive Charges were timed to go off in sequence to bring the building down in a top down demolition that had never before been attempted. Fire behaved as it does in the real world. Jet fuel burned for only 5 minutes, which coincides with all calculations of the ignition and burning of a volatile fuel. Explosive charges sounded like bombs, and since they were placed in the core near the elevator by the ACE elevator company that was working in the building foir 8 months prior, and disappeared forever after the first plane hit. Several people who said they heard a bomb, actually heard a bomb. Fuel burned according to mathematical calculations. Steel behaved according to what is expected when exposed to temperatures of 1100 f for 5 minutes and then 700 f for 1 hour more. A building fell at a speed expected for demolition.

Yup... you totally make sense arguing that crazy shit.

How does your magical situation make more sense than planted explosives and cutters? Al Qaeda knocking them down with airplanes is easier for you to believe? Sad, really
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
"There is endless photographic evidence" *links zero photographs*


 
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Originally posted by wormser1971
In my world: Planes hit the buildings. Jet fuel started fires in several locations and had a massive fireball that escaped the building. Linear thermite cutters cut steel in several locations. Explosive Charges were timed to go off in sequence to bring the building down in a top down demolition that had never before been attempted. Fire behaved as it does in the real world. Jet fuel burned for only 5 minutes, which coincides with all calculations of the ignition and burning of a volatile fuel. Explosive charges sounded like bombs, and since they were placed in the core near the elevator by the ACE elevator company that was working in the building foir 8 months prior, and disappeared forever after the first plane hit. Several people who said they heard a bomb, actually heard a bomb. Fuel burned according to mathematical calculations. Steel behaved according to what is expected when exposed to temperatures of 1100 f for 5 minutes and then 700 f for 1 hour more. A building fell at a speed expected for demolition.

Yup... you totally make sense arguing that crazy shit.

How does your magical situation make more sense than planted explosives and cutters? Al Qaeda knocking them down with airplanes is easier for you to believe? Sad, really


So... who did it? Who covered it up? How did something of this magnitude not get leaked? Why did they do it?

We know Al Qaeda hijacked the planes and crashed them into the buildings. If someone knew this was going to happen (in order to plant and ignite the thermite cutters), how has that not been discovered? It means a partnership between someone with access to the core structure of the WTC had to be in league with the terrorists who attacked the US that day.

Who? To what end? What amount of value could be worth the risk of being caught plotting to kill that many people? If Al Qaeada did the whole thing, why even use the planes? How did they hide that part of their plan? Where did they get the technical specifications on the building in order to pull it off?

If not them, who? Who would sacrifice that many lives and for what gain? If it was someone in the government, how has that not been uncovered given the turnover in the agencies / highest ranks when the democrats became elected?

The answer is either that your science is wrong (aka someone who took the measurements did not correctly predict the outcome) or this is some vast conspiracy involving international terrorism... and nobody got caught and nobody has spilled the beans.

I'm willing to guess that the answer is: terrorists did it. I don't need the Hardley Boys to solve this one. The real question is: who took a shit in the urinal? What would bring someone to do that? What motive or possible explanation exits for someone to shit in the urinal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_of_the_Urinal_Deuce
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s10e09-mystery-of-the-urinal-deuce

The real, real question is: how is this thread still going? What is the motive?
 
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Lol just read his text wall, he still believes that jet fuel is the only thing capable of catching on fire in an office building and there was no fire after 5 minutes.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
Lol just read his text wall, he still believes that jet fuel is the only thing capable of catching on fire in an office building and there was no fire after 5 minutes.


He is either trolling or he is a complete moron. Ignore the fact that FIREFIGHTERS reported burning JET FUEL below the elevator in the lobby level.
 
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Originally posted by baumusc
He is either trolling or he is a complete moron. Ignore the fact that FIREFIGHTERS reported burning JET FUEL below the elevator in the lobby level.


They're lying tbh. They're covering up the fact that they ran in with bombs.
 
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In fact, anyone or anything who ever disagrees is automatically part of the conspiracy and can be explained by the fact that they must be lying and bending the laws of physics, no matter how heavily they outnumber those who 'saw or heard bombs'
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

You left out "tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist" and "anti-Semite".


Go fuck yourself, loser.

Originally posted by baumusc
That too. Gnosis and Wormser hate America. That is the only explanation to their ignorance of obvious facts. Remote controlled planes, fire always goes up, a missile hit the Pentagon, the Jews did it. Blah, blah, blah. Spew your anti American hatred in some other forum.


I guess the family members of the victims of 9/11 who started and continue to participate and help lead the 9/11 truth movement also hate America. Maybe they should considering 9/11 was a false flag attack.


Originally posted by Time Trial
So... who did it? Who covered it up? How did something of this magnitude not get leaked? Why did they do it?

We know Al Qaeda hijacked the planes and crashed them into the buildings. If someone knew this was going to happen (in order to plant and ignite the thermite cutters), how has that not been discovered? It means a partnership between someone with access to the core structure of the WTC had to be in league with the terrorists who attacked the US that day.

Who? To what end? What amount of value could be worth the risk of being caught plotting to kill that many people? If Al Qaeada did the whole thing, why even use the planes? How did they hide that part of their plan? Where did they get the technical specifications on the building in order to pull it off?

If not them, who? Who would sacrifice that many lives and for what gain? If it was someone in the government, how has that not been uncovered given the turnover in the agencies / highest ranks when the democrats became elected?

The answer is either that your science is wrong (aka someone who took the measurements did not correctly predict the outcome) or this is some vast conspiracy involving international terrorism... and nobody got caught and nobody has spilled the beans.

I'm willing to guess that the answer is: terrorists did it. I don't need the Hardley Boys to solve this one. The real question is: who took a shit in the urinal? What would bring someone to do that? What motive or possible explanation exits for someone to shit in the urinal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_of_the_Urinal_Deuce
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s10e09-mystery-of-the-urinal-deuce

The real, real question is: how is this thread still going? What is the motive?


Ignorance.
 
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If you are saying that the American government perpetrated 9/11 by flying remote controlled planes into the WTC buildings and then detonating them then yes you do hate America. Basically you cannot possibly love a country that is based on what you believe to be a lie and a cabal of murderers. The fact that you believe the things that you do even when provided evidence to the contrary, that shoots down each individual point, tells me that you are the one portraying ignorance. There basically isn't one thing that you claim that can't be explained or debunked through science, physics, and eye witness accounts.
 
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Originally posted by baumusc
If you are saying that the American government perpetrated 9/11 by flying remote controlled planes into the WTC buildings and then detonating them then yes you do hate America. Basically you cannot possibly love a country that is based on what you believe to be a lie and a cabal of murderers. The fact that you believe the things that you do even when provided evidence to the contrary, that shoots down each individual point, tells me that you are the one portraying ignorance. There basically isn't one thing that you claim that can't be explained or debunked through science, physics, and eye witness accounts.


You're full of shit.
 
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Originally posted by wormser1971
Planes hit the buildings. Jet fuel started fires in several locations and had a massive fireball that escaped the building. Linear thermite cutters cut steel in several locations. Explosive Charges were timed to go off in sequence to bring the building down in a top down demolition that had never before been attempted. Fire behaved as it does in the real world. Jet fuel burned for only 5 minutes, which coincides with all calculations of the ignition and burning of a volatile fuel. Explosive charges sounded like bombs, and since they were placed in the core near the elevator by the ACE elevator company that was working in the building foir 8 months prior, and disappeared forever after the first plane hit. Several people who said they heard a bomb, actually heard a bomb. Fuel burned according to mathematical calculations. Steel behaved according to what is expected when exposed to temperatures of 1100 f for 5 minutes and then 700 f for 1 hour more. A building fell at a speed expected for demolition.


 
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Originally posted by Gnosis
You're full of shit.


Calm down, commie.
 
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