Originally posted by Cowpoker
I like the tax idea personally because I don't consume many products. That being said, any idea what your budget would look like in terms of revenue ?
You realize that import taxes and tariffs can hurt you as much as they help you right ? If you look at oil and fuel alone, we are not that far removed from $100 a barrel, the only reason we are currently at a fraction of that is because of our ability to drill our own oil, if we aggressively added a tariff to foreign oil to support the Texas, ND, OK, Alaska regions, we would likely still be $70+ for oil and $3.50+ for a gallon of gas. I maybe see the dark side of these trade deals more then the average person, we just recently approved a trade deal with Columbia that removed an 80% tax on US beef and TPP will ratchet down what is currently a 39.5% tariff on US beef that Japan has in place and that is one of our largest export markets. The importance of those trade deals being that as the middle class grows worldwide, they consume energy and their diets change and we are one of the largest suppliers of protein and refined fuel and you want to fuck that up now ? That is shitty timing, we already weathered the loss of production jobs and now when it is our turn to reap the rewards from those sacrifices and investments, you want to fuck the whole thing up ? As much as it might pain me and others to admit, we are WTO's bitch. The American consumer supported Country of Origin Labeling (COOL) where US companies were allowed to label a beef product as born, raised, butchered in the USA and Mexico and Canada sued the US with WTO and WTO ruled in their favor to allow them to impose tariff increases which would have cost the US beef industry over 1 billion dollars a year. The US congress caved in immediately, they had no choice. Basically, Canada and Mexico have more control over your food then you do.
Where I live gas is $1.79/gallon. So if tariffs dropped the price from $100/barrel to $70 why would my gas go up to $3.50/gallon? That makes no sense. And we force the rest of the world to up their labor standards by making there cheaply produced stuff the same price as our goods. Thus Making null and void where the product is made, because all people will be more wage equivalent. And we should emphasize American made and American employed companies/products, not demonize there costs. It should be a sense of pride giving back to your community and country through your purchases.
I like the tax idea personally because I don't consume many products. That being said, any idea what your budget would look like in terms of revenue ?
You realize that import taxes and tariffs can hurt you as much as they help you right ? If you look at oil and fuel alone, we are not that far removed from $100 a barrel, the only reason we are currently at a fraction of that is because of our ability to drill our own oil, if we aggressively added a tariff to foreign oil to support the Texas, ND, OK, Alaska regions, we would likely still be $70+ for oil and $3.50+ for a gallon of gas. I maybe see the dark side of these trade deals more then the average person, we just recently approved a trade deal with Columbia that removed an 80% tax on US beef and TPP will ratchet down what is currently a 39.5% tariff on US beef that Japan has in place and that is one of our largest export markets. The importance of those trade deals being that as the middle class grows worldwide, they consume energy and their diets change and we are one of the largest suppliers of protein and refined fuel and you want to fuck that up now ? That is shitty timing, we already weathered the loss of production jobs and now when it is our turn to reap the rewards from those sacrifices and investments, you want to fuck the whole thing up ? As much as it might pain me and others to admit, we are WTO's bitch. The American consumer supported Country of Origin Labeling (COOL) where US companies were allowed to label a beef product as born, raised, butchered in the USA and Mexico and Canada sued the US with WTO and WTO ruled in their favor to allow them to impose tariff increases which would have cost the US beef industry over 1 billion dollars a year. The US congress caved in immediately, they had no choice. Basically, Canada and Mexico have more control over your food then you do.
Where I live gas is $1.79/gallon. So if tariffs dropped the price from $100/barrel to $70 why would my gas go up to $3.50/gallon? That makes no sense. And we force the rest of the world to up their labor standards by making there cheaply produced stuff the same price as our goods. Thus Making null and void where the product is made, because all people will be more wage equivalent. And we should emphasize American made and American employed companies/products, not demonize there costs. It should be a sense of pride giving back to your community and country through your purchases.
Edited by glbisthewaytobe on Feb 13, 2016 15:01:00
Edited by glbisthewaytobe on Feb 13, 2016 15:00:26






























