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Bevo53
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Originally posted by sully
Originally posted by Bevo53

Originally posted by sully


The only real solution is for the Lumberjacks to move up, so I bring my rankings and such to the A #3 forums. Well... Elvis', Longhorns, Psychos, Cha Chings... What are you gonna do to make that happen?



Sully, we definitely miss you guys Sully. Whoever, moves up next will have to deal with asnyder and akleine like the rest of us.


Just imagine what fun you guys will have if the Cajuns move up. At least if I move up, I can provide some power rankings and junk.


Clay and I might have our disagreements, but I think our teams generally like and respect each other. Cajuns can at least back it up with wins too.
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by asnyder14
I was just saying that projections suck, id rather see rankings based on what has actually happened


here ya go: http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=34
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by akleine21

My point is proven. No thought put into it. Stats do mean a lot yes but just like with real football there is more to it than stats. gtbice put effort into it. You did not and are obviously simple


let's compare. i challenge you to get these set up:
- League Projector: http://snipr.com/470138-glb
- League Projector Macro: http://snipr.com/803223-glb | http://snipr.com/automate-bas

and then take a look at gtbice's "projections":
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=708260

what's that? oh, it's just a list with no data. and how did he get it?Originally posted by gtbice

I just used the matchup screen for these, so don't read too much into it as I put very little thought into it. It just makes it easier on me getting them all lined up, last season I did it by average team level, but that took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
to much time.


the following week, he did do a more in-depth job:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=743432

... which was awesome and greatly appreciated, but i'm guess he still did it by average level with some subjective tweaking in spots. when he ran out of time (link below), i thought i'd step up and leverage some of the projection spreadsheets out there.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=825026

again, if you knew what you were talking about (hint: you don't), you would know they take forever to setup and tweak. quite frankly, i obviously put more effort into making projections than gtbice did. and yes, i wasn't satisfied with the results, but i was considering switching to a more robust spreadsheet that took more into account than just SOS/PF/PA:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=817264#6329061

bottom line: i know you're just fishing for something to whine about, but it helps if you've got facts on your side first. otherwise you just look even more foolish than usual.


If you spent all the time and it wasn't what you wanted I guess they weren't very good. I'd prefer gtbice's. He basically made it into a news column. It was good reading. Yours is a plain list that has no commentary. Yes the stats show something but the commentary is what made it interesing. One of these days you won't be so slow at keeping up.

 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by asnyder14

I was just saying that projections suck, id rather see rankings based on what has actually happened


here ya go: http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=34


That was helpful. I'm sure no one could've found that page without your help.
 
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Originally posted by akleine21
If you spent all the time and it wasn't what you wanted I guess they weren't very good. I'd prefer gtbice's. He basically made it into a news column. It was good reading. Yours is a plain list that has no commentary. Yes the stats show something but the commentary is what made it interesing. One of these days you won't be so slow at keeping up.


should i be surprised that you're missing your own point? you were talking about "effort", now you've conveniently switched your tune to 'quality'. i already said i was a little disappointed in the output of the spreadsheet, so you're not scoring any points there.

i'm glad you liked gtbice's projection. i thought it was great, too, and i wish he would've been able to keep it up... but its apples and oranges to compare his approach to mine. the quality issue with the spreadsheet i was using (again: not my creation) was that it only looked at SOS/PF/PA. there was another one that looked at performance stats, but it would've taken even more "effort" to set up. and here's a telling point: its output still would not have had any commentary.

in other words, if you don't like the spreadsheet i was using, go talk to the author or something. if you prefer qualitative analysis over quantitative analysis, fine... but that's a different discussion. but here's what was actually at hand:
Originally posted by akleine21
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by akleine21
If its a problem put something of worth up so others will post. All of you have plenty of time to complain so post some power rankings or something useful if you want it to be more active and fun.
i was posting projections and it never shut you up.
Your predictions were a waste of my reading time. They took you all of 5 seconds and had nothing to support them.


i encourage you to take your own advice. instead of ragging on those who have actually contributed and pissing off everyone else, how about you "put something of worth up" for once? lets see your "power rankings or something useful".
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by akleine21
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by asnyder14

I was just saying that projections suck, id rather see rankings based on what has actually happened

here ya go: http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=34

That was helpful. I'm sure no one could've found that page without your help.


http://www.answers.com/sarcasm

One of these days you won't be so slow at keeping up.
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by akleine21

If you spent all the time and it wasn't what you wanted I guess they weren't very good. I'd prefer gtbice's. He basically made it into a news column. It was good reading. Yours is a plain list that has no commentary. Yes the stats show something but the commentary is what made it interesing. One of these days you won't be so slow at keeping up.


should i be surprised that you're missing your own point? you were talking about "effort", now you've conveniently switched your tune to 'quality'. i already said i was a little disappointed in the output of the spreadsheet, so you're not scoring any points there.

i'm glad you liked gtbice's projection. i thought it was great, too, and i wish he would've been able to keep it up... but its apples and oranges to compare his approach to mine. the quality issue with the spreadsheet i was using (again: not my creation) was that it only looked at SOS/PF/PA. there was another one that looked at performance stats, but it would've taken even more "effort" to set up. and here's a telling point: its output still would not have had any commentary.

in other words, if you don't like the spreadsheet i was using, go talk to the author or something. if you prefer qualitative analysis over quantitative analysis, fine... but that's a different discussion. but here's what was actually at hand:
Originally posted by akleine21

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by akleine21

If its a problem put something of worth up so others will post. All of you have plenty of time to complain so post some power rankings or something useful if you want it to be more active and fun.
i was posting projections and it never shut you up.
Your predictions were a waste of my reading time. They took you all of 5 seconds and had nothing to support them.


i encourage you to take your own advice. instead of ragging on those who have actually contributed and pissing off everyone else, how about you "put something of worth up" for once? lets see your "power rankings or something useful".


I could care less what spreadsheet you use. Once its set up its done. All you do is import numbers and its done. That is not effort or time. One of these days you will figure it out...well, from what I've seen so far I guess not.
 
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Originally posted by akleine21
I could care less what spreadsheet you use. Once its set up its done. All you do is import numbers and its done. That is not effort or time. One of these days you will figure it out...well, from what I've seen so far I guess not.


nope, wrong again. with that spreadsheet, you have to enter each score... twice. which was the whole point behind the macro... except it broke repeatedly and took even more time to sort out. and besides all that, setting everything up the first place still took more effort than you're aware... which is enough on its own to prove my point.

bottom line: you still don't know what you're talking about... and you won't until you actually try to do some projections yourself. i gave you the links to the spreadsheets... knock yourself out. you'll quickly find that trying to "import numbers" is a lot trickier than you're making it out to be. oh, and... the clumsy formatting and the movement arrows were manual, not automatic.

your opinion is utterly irrelevant in this regard because you still don't know what you're talking about. try actually applying yourself for once and you'll gain a little perspective.
 
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Catullus, you do realize that all you're doing is feeding the trolls, right?
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by HaplosDog
Catullus, you do realize that all you're doing is feeding the trolls, right?


ha, well... i don't think they're skilled enough to call themselves "trolls". if anything, i think i represent a better breed of troll... and they're more like dogs you have to walk -- because if they don't get their exercise they get all pent up and start pissing themselves and chewing on everything.
 
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It seems I won't be able to post as much anymore fellas.
Yeah, my pops straight up grounded my ass for not doing any chores around the house.

I didn't organize his matchbox cars and sega genesis cartridges, didn't keep my ass off the plastic, and most of all I brought one of them hoes up in here and didn't let him fuck 'em first.

Oh well, just never forget, man. Either they don't know, don't show, or just don't care about bein' a menace to South Central while they drink their juice in the 'hood.
 
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Too much to read, after coming back into town from work I have come to realize the A3 foums sucks, sully we need you
 
akleine21
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by HaplosDog

Catullus, you do realize that all you're doing is feeding the trolls, right?


ha, well... i don't think they're skilled enough to call themselves "trolls". if anything, i think i represent a better breed of troll... and they're more like dogs you have to walk -- because if they don't get their exercise they get all pent up and start pissing themselves and chewing on everything.


You represent why some parents eat their young.

 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by HaplosDog

Catullus, you do realize that all you're doing is feeding the trolls, right?


ha, well... i don't think they're skilled enough to call themselves "trolls". if anything, i think i represent a better breed of troll... and they're more like dogs you have to walk -- because if they don't get their exercise they get all pent up and start pissing themselves and chewing on everything.



Haha.... Cattullus don't let clown discourge you. If you actually address their comments you are infact feeding the trolls. Bratty Children are all the same, it's the attention they need and they don't care if its bad attention or good attention. My suggestion and that of Child Psychologist everywhere is that you only give attention to the children when they are acting well. If we change our reaction they will change their action. So, that will be the tact I take in dealing with our spoiled brat USA A #3 children.

Complete shock that one of their dad's grounded them.....
 
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Originally posted by bknudson
Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by HaplosDog


Catullus, you do realize that all you're doing is feeding the trolls, right?


ha, well... i don't think they're skilled enough to call themselves "trolls". if anything, i think i represent a better breed of troll... and they're more like dogs you have to walk -- because if they don't get their exercise they get all pent up and start pissing themselves and chewing on everything.



Haha.... Cattullus don't let clown discourge you. If you actually address their comments you are infact feeding the trolls. Bratty Children are all the same, it's the attention they need and they don't care if its bad attention or good attention. My suggestion and that of Child Psychologist everywhere is that you only give attention to the children when they are acting well. If we change our reaction they will change their action. So, that will be the tact I take in dealing with our spoiled brat USA A #3 children.

Complete shock that one of their dad's grounded them.....


Yes feed them...feed them more.

And his dad let him off easy. He's confined to his room and can only look and post on this website.

 
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