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Originally posted by Xars


I do find it hypocritical that the Left goes nuts when Trump mentions that players should be fired, but said nothing when Obama actually fired the CEO of GM and then destroyed 100 years of bankruptcy precedent to give creditor money to union employees. Yes, that actually happened.

I guess Actions don't speak louder than Words.


Oh you will never hear anything bad about the great divider Obama or the left. They can never do anything wrong. It doesn't hurt to have Soros and his evil empire owning the main stream media either.

From a Minority that has numerous military members active and retired from the armed services, the actions during the "Anthem" have nothing to do with American Military, the American Flag and is not being done to disrespect our service members.

I have never seen so many people in a country get wound up about standing vs kneeling........

If your married I am sure you got down on a knee and proposed to your wife/fiancee........

If your catholic you kneel numerous times throughout a Mass .......

So why not stand and ask for your Girls hand in marriage or Stand instead of kneel when a priest recites rites......

Even in football, players kneel as an act of surrendering themselves i.e. kickoffs/victory formation.......... Yet somehow players are now being vilified for not standing at attention during the "anthem"

It is all about freedom of expression which our military members fought for so that we can have that right.....
Yes some call it a distraction others see it as creating awareness...... But as you all can see it has made such a wave in todays society that it has made it to the GLB message board.

Like anything in this world before you make strong opinions regarding the way a group of people do something have some knowledgeable background on the subject matter.

The media will always dictate the pulse of America, there is no way around that..... unless your living the life of someone that is oppressed you will never understand that viewpoint.

Hayrow facts are a cop beat the hell out of a Seattle player and told him he would blow his fucking brains out. And he attacked him because he was a black male out to late at night. But he was doing nothing wrong. Those are facts. And if you read these players comments they aren’t just about blacks they are saying all people being attacked for no reason, all people being racially profiled this includes whir epeople such as myself from Arkansas that you assume is a hillbilly from the mountains when I am actually a man that was raised on a farm and taught right from wrong and am very very well educated. Now is that a fact that he was attacked for being black? Yes it is. Fact of racism is a young man walked into a North Carolina church and shot up a black church because they didn’t deserve to live

Originally posted by dredgar
Hayrow facts are a cop beat the hell out of a Seattle player and told him he would blow his fucking brains out. And he attacked him because he was a black male out to late at night. But he was doing nothing wrong. Those are facts. And if you read these players comments they aren’t just about blacks they are saying all people being attacked for no reason, all people being racially profiled this includes whir epeople such as myself from Arkansas that you assume is a hillbilly from the mountains when I am actually a man that was raised on a farm and taught right from wrong and am very very well educated. Now is that a fact that he was attacked for being black? Yes it is. Fact of racism is a young man walked into a North Carolina church and shot up a black church because they didn’t deserve to live

Yup the cop told him "wrong place, wrong time" basically in an attempt to defend himself. So basically his whole argument was that it was Bennett's fault for even being out.

And you can't say Bennett riled him up, he's a big ass dude. He honestly could've fought back, but instead he sucked it up then reported it afterwards.

Because you don't want to see the facts right in front of you doesn't mean there's nothing to fight for. It means that you don't have the courage to fight. So Hayrow, I leave you with these two question.

Do you not pay attention to leak security tapes or recorded videos that confirm police have indeed overstepped their boundaries and are engaging in acts of overwhelming aggression?

If there are dirty cops, why is it so hard to wrap one's mind around the fact that not all cops are good guys and something simple as abusing power is possible?

I'm not saying all cops are like this, but most of the cops that have engaged in police brutality get off the hook. This has led to even more offenders. Yes the good outweigh the bad, but the bad is there and we don't even know the number because something's are covered up from the beginning.

Plus everyone who said that kid was a "sweetheart" was white and they most likely didn't show a lot of interviews considering the fact that he was a homocidal maniac who enjoyed posing with confederate flags.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
I believe it's their right to kneel as their freedom of speech, but they are also employees whose boss can dictate if that's allowed I think...either way, while it is peaceful, it is also divisive or we wouldn't be even having this conversation.



sums up exactly how I feel about it. It is their 1st amendment right. Their bosses are apparently OK with it (or more likely terrified of being protested against).

I think there would be much better and less divisive ways to further their goals - but whatever.

Originally posted by dredgar
Hayrow facts are a cop beat the hell out of a Seattle player and told him he would blow his fucking brains out. And he attacked him because he was a black male out to late at night. But he was doing nothing wrong. Those are facts. And if you read these players comments they aren’t just about blacks they are saying all people being attacked for no reason, all people being racially profiled this includes whir epeople such as myself from Arkansas that you assume is a hillbilly from the mountains when I am actually a man that was raised on a farm and taught right from wrong and am very very well educated. Now is that a fact that he was attacked for being black? Yes it is. Fact of racism is a young man walked into a North Carolina church and shot up a black church because they didn’t deserve to live

Dred - I like you - but you are part of the problem. I can find no mention (even in Michael Bennett's own explanation of what happened) that they 'beat the hell out of him"

I'm not on any side - but you damage your position when you embellish / exaggerate / lie about what happened.

Just tell the truth - and that either makes your point or it doesn't.

There was an incident - Police suspected Bennet was involved - they ordered him to the ground - they threatened to blow his head off while keeping guns on him.

An officer certainly should not have said that and/or held a gun to his head. Absolutely should not happen. But you muddy the water to much by making stuff up.

Okay let me not use phrasing. When you watch the video. He put his hands up and said i did nothing wrong.(being out late isn't wrong doing). They told him to get down. He got down on his knees. Then the cop grabbed him and slammed him on his face. and we all know the yelling of blow his head off. Now those aren't mucked up anymore. But you are right the simple part was there was no reason for him to slam him down or cuss at him threatening his life. But the main point is that he shouldn't have been treated that way at all or even arrested in the first place being he didn't do anything. If you are a suspect then a cop approaches you and says you are needed for question.

txsteve i will agree that was an error by me to paraphrase and is an issue in a ton of arguments among other things.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
Do your own homework, I've done mine

The argument of those that don't have more proof than a couple individual incidents. ..

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
I'll just leave you all with a little fact on this topic and I won't say a single word about this any longer after that....
All of you on here that say kneeling during a national anthem is so disrespectful...I bet not a single 1 of you stand up at home ever while the national anthem is played as you sit on your couch...but lets go on GLB and social media and make a spectacle because its trending....hmmmm bunch of hypocrites


Again, proof you don't understand what a fact is. That needs to be hashed out for you to start having success in arguments like this.

As a hs coach of multiple sports I stand everytime it's played. Comparing being at an event live where you are looking at the flag to watching a game on tv is silly. Not to mention most games don't even show the anthem.

I stand everytime for the superbowl because it's made a focal point of the event

Originally posted by HayRow
Again, proof you don't understand what a fact is. That needs to be hashed out for you to start having success in arguments like this.

As a hs coach of multiple sports I stand everytime it's played. Comparing being at an event live where you are looking at the flag to watching a game on tv is silly. Not to mention most games don't even show the anthem.

I stand everytime for the superbowl because it's made a focal point of the event

so hayrow do they even play the national anthem at your games? If they do, do any of your players kneel or stand? Just curious here. Also do you have a policy on your players on this or do you tell them you will support them on their positions and decisons?

Originally posted by dredgar
Hayrow facts are a cop beat the hell out of a Seattle player not a fact, not even true and told him he would blow his fucking brains out. unsure if it's true, from early reports it was bennett vs cops word (could be more released since then) And he attacked him because he was a black male out to late at night.not true at all, Bennett was running from the scene of the crime, did you even watch the video?? They passed up likely hundreds of other black males in the casino and picked him because he was a blacker black male? C'Mon man But he was doing nothing wrong. Those are facts. not even close to what a fact is. And if you read these players comments they aren’t just about blacks they are saying all people being attacked for no reason, a lie all people being racially profiled this includes whir epeople such as myself from Arkansas that you assume is a hillbilly from the mountains when I am actually a man that was raised on a farm and taught right from wrong and am very very well educated. Now is that a fact that he was attacked for being black? Yes it is. no it's not, he ran from the scene of a crime, watch the video Fact of racism is a young man walked into a North Carolina church and shot up a black church because they didn’t deserve to live yes sir, that is an incident of racism. I never said it doesn't exist...

Originally posted by TyDavis315
Yup the cop told him "wrong place, wrong time" basically in an attempt to defend himself. So basically his whole argument was that it was Bennett's fault for even being out.

And you can't say Bennett riled him up, he's a big ass dude. He honestly could've fought back, but instead he sucked it up then reported it afterwards.

Because you don't want to see the facts right in front of you doesn't mean there's nothing to fight for. It means that you don't have the courage to fight. So Hayrow, I leave you with these two question.

Do you not pay attention to leak security tapes or recorded videos that confirm police have indeed overstepped their boundaries and are engaging in acts of overwhelming aggression? of course and those incidents are very few and far between, although you wouldn't think so from cnn/msnbc

If there are dirty cops, why is it so hard to wrap one's mind around the fact that not all cops are good guys and something simple as abusing power is possible? not a hard concept, but the abuse % is sooooooo minimal it's silly that it's talked about like it's a top 3 problem facing minorities

I'm not saying all cops are like this, but most of the cops that have engaged in police brutality get off the hook.another statement based in emotion and not factual evidence This has led to even more offenders. Yes the good outweigh the bad, but the bad is there and we don't even know the number because something's are covered up from the beginning.

Plus everyone who said that kid was a "sweetheart" was white and they most likely didn't show a lot of interviews considering the fact that he was a homocidal maniac who enjoyed posing with confederate flags.

Just because you guys like to make things up, or believe things w/out proof does not make them true. I legit don't think you understand what the word "fact" means...

Is it possible we could move this discussion somewhere more appropriate, like Free For All or General Discussion, or to the surface of the sun?

Originally posted by TxSteve
Dred - I like you - but you are part of the problem. I can find no mention (even in Michael Bennett's own explanation of what happened) that they 'beat the hell out of him"

I'm not on any side - but you damage your position when you embellish / exaggerate / lie about what happened.

Just tell the truth - and that either makes your point or it doesn't.

There was an incident - Police suspected Bennet was involved - they ordered him to the ground - they threatened to blow his head off while keeping guns on him.

An officer certainly should not have said that and/or held a gun to his head. Absolutely should not happen. But you muddy the water to much by making stuff up.

this oh so much