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Originally posted by Sov.
yeah i try to stay out of discussions regarding builds to avoid giving away trade secrets but pocket awa is huge for QB imo, will force QBs to throw on the move without things like on the run and have much lower accuracy. I bet most of madisons INTs come in games when they are being pressured/blitzed so IMO that solves diddy's puzzle

edit: just saw diddy's response. lol, i guess to each his own but i completely disagree with your theory on low pocket awa making your QB move less in the pocket. The QB is still going to move away from the blitzer, he is just going to make a more inaccurate throw

My S* QB on 1980s Super Villians will have 70 pocket awareness...and he is dual threat. So yeah...good luck catching him. High footwork + High Pocket Awareness = less bad throws on the run and less sacks and more scrambles.

Well, you just sold me on OTR to Gold.

Edit: AZ I mean.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
Well, you just sold me on OTR to Gold.

Edit: AZ I mean.

I hope you're kidding

That was a small sample size, AZ, want to do the first 10 games? As stated earlier, candice has played abnormally bad the last 10 games

I can't offer any advice. Candice's build is closed.

Fwiw, Madison threw no INTs against GA, and GA is pretty well built for them.

You've just been unlucky lately and facing different playcalling I'd suspect.

Folks still blitzing hard or sitting more defenders in passing lanes?

Originally posted by TDiddy8701
That was a small sample size, AZ, want to do the first 10 games? As stated earlier, candice has played abnormally bad the last 10 games

If you want increase the sample size then go ahead. We're dealing with 700-850 passing attempts, I'm fine with the sample size.

Originally posted by TDiddy8701
That was a small sample size, AZ, want to do the first 10 games? As stated earlier, candice has played abnormally bad the last 10 games

Because I'm bored and can't leave for the day yet, I ran the numbers (based on AZs calculation) for the four teams he listed for the entire season.

Madison Bulldogs - 3.88%
Djibouti Assassins - 2.35%
Logzilla Boys - 3.27%
Mercy Flush - 2.54%

The percentages for LZ and Mercy Flush went up pretty significantly but the Bulldogs still have the highest percentage of pure incompletions. I'm not sure what the significance of these numbers are since this isn't a controlled comparison, but its definitely interesting.

^^^ you know what also affects this %?

rec aware (and maybe jumping?)

if a player has high rec aware, he might jump for a ball and turn it into a catch, drop, knock loose, where a player with lower rec aware won't make a play on the ball and it'll just be over/underthrown.

Latimer has 59.... Black Dynamite, my best TE, has 39. What about the best WRs/TEs on your guys' teams? It seemed like DAs recievers make more plays on the ball than ours... which can EASILY be the difference in this percentage (0.5%?). To say it's because of pocket awareness is overlooking a ton of other things.

It's pretty cool to see the numbers that AZ and Air have laid out. I've always been a huge fan of On the Run and that's why I pumped Pocket aware so high. When seeing it fire with such small movement, it makes me glad he has it.

Tdiddy stop freaking out over the INT's. When looking at a player's performance over a game or a small group of games things can look off, but they tend to sort out over a larger sample size. Your QB is at nearly the exact same INT rate as last season and actually slightly lower.

Season 11: 1.10% Interception Rate
Season 12: 1.05% Interception Rate

Originally posted by TDiddy8701
I hope you're kidding

That was a small sample size, AZ, want to do the first 10 games? As stated earlier, candice has played abnormally bad the last 10 games

Not at all. It's not like I think OTR is a shit SA to begin with. It's just "accuracy penalties from moving" has never been quantified by Bortdog.

I think AZ's numbers shows that potentially those moving penalties are significant enough for me to favour that SA over the other mediocre QB SAs.

Doesn't mean they are either of course, but I'm not watching thousands of replays to see when a QB is moving or not when he throws.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
Not at all. It's not like I think OTR is a shit SA to begin with. It's just "accuracy penalties from moving" has never been quantified by Bortdog.

I think AZ's numbers shows that potentially those moving penalties are significant enough for me to favour that SA over the other mediocre QB SAs.

Doesn't mean they are either of course, but I'm not watching thousands of replays to see when a QB is moving or not when he throws.

Most QB SA's are underwhelming, so it makes the choice easy.

Well, I sure wasn't thinking Hail Mary instead of OTR. I was thinking why bother at all and just take HTH or Second Wind.

HTH is a very underrated SA for QBs IMO... if you're a good team, you'll have 65-75ish% of your games at home, including home playoff games and late ladder games which can be very important

Also, not many people putting SAs into clock manager either, which I like... I've had that on Yukiko and Candice. It can be huge in close games.

I just think OTR isn't that important when your accuracy is very high anyway....

the accuracy penalty can't be that much when your in the 90s. I bet if Saul went away from OTR on a respec, there wouldn't be much of a difference in accuracy of throws on the run since his accuracy is already like 99/100.