Warrior General Games

Originally posted by peeti
and check that statistic pls for all other top ten ruahing teams not called erkner...you might see sth para, but yeah. that would be too much for you I guess as you still only argue about half my post

Again, you show up empty handed. Stop piggy backing on other peoples posts, do some research yourself instead of just crying because you were dominated by BSB.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Again, you show up empty handed. Stop piggy backing on other peoples posts, do some research yourself instead of just crying because you were dominated by BSB.

Haha, you still dont get that i said that long before Erkner was back in rookie. Nit crying at all about that loss or beeing no2.

Steve posted my point and gave data to that. You are too stupid to understand my initial point in here. I dont know what to say other than fckin start reading and comprehending.

I am on on mobile...not gonna do that know. maybe tomorrow. Until that read Steves fckin post to maybe start understanding what i said...gosh, how are you able to make a living with that attitude

Originally posted by peeti
Haha, you still dont get that i said that long before Erkner was back in rookie. Nit crying at all about that loss or beeing no2.

Steve posted my point and gave data to that. You are too stupid to understand my initial point in here. I dont know what to say other than fckin start reading and comprehending.

I am on on mobile...not gonna do that know. maybe tomorrow. Until that read Steves fckin post to maybe start understanding what i said...gosh, how are you able to make a living with that attitude

Shocking, absolutely nothing to back up anything you post once again.

You know, I wonder if part of the reason passing in rookie these days is able to escape the ZEB death because people just don't build LBs to run it anymore. Does anyone still build OLBs all sprinting for the majority of their rookie season? I'd be surprised.

ZEB was dirty in the past, but it was especially dirty because everyone had lightweight OLBs that were lightning fast very early in the build. They were much faster to the QB than WR/TEs were getting to useful target windows on the field.

Originally posted by TxSteve
Right - that is how season 9 ended.

Erkner had 13,416 yards
4099 yards of that came from GL (mostly sweeps and rollouts)

So - they just 'lost' 30% of their offense.

I think he is simply predicting: Passing should stay about the same -- and rushing will see a large drop off.

Shocking that you are that stupid. Again...not gonna start copying and looking for IDs from my phone. Its sad that you cant see what I mean without actually posting it. But thats non of my business.

We will talk after the season.

Originally posted by Galithor
You know, I wonder if part of the reason passing in rookie these days is able to escape the ZEB death because people just don't build LBs to run it anymore. Does anyone still build OLBs all sprinting for the majority of their rookie season? I'd be surprised.

ZEB was dirty in the past, but it was especially dirty because everyone had lightweight OLBs that were lightning fast very early in the build. They were much faster to the QB than WR/TEs were getting to useful target windows on the field.

yes we did. And back then we didnt even had pure guys like that and just jumped on the bandwagon and the play still killed everything. It was really the play not builds. Good that this got fixed

I expect people still build fast LB's.

Wasn't there a artificial bump given to rookie QB's awareness? I can't remember (don't get me wrong - it was definitely needed).


All that is being said here I think:
last season: 60% of top 10 was passing and 40% was all run.

This season: running teams have (rightfully so) had their bread and butter taken away and will see a ~30% reduction in offensive production (based on Erkner only), while passing has been left untouched.

Prediction: passing will dominate rookie

(which is perfectly fine)

Well, its wrth pointing out one thing for rookie balancing purposes.

Its not that passing is OP in rookie. Its pretty awful in its own right.

Its that HBs don't really break any tackles in rookie, so rushing is just pitiful without the untouched touchdown type plays in the playbook.

No idea how you improve tackle breaking in rookie without also impacting some interactions at veteran (particularly on pass catchers).

Originally posted by TxSteve
Right - that is how season 9 ended.

Erkner had 13,416 yards
4099 yards of that came from GL (mostly sweeps and rollouts)

So - they just 'lost' 30% of their offense.

I think he is simply predicting: Passing should stay about the same -- and rushing will see a large drop off.

They didn't lose 30% of their offense, they lost 3 plays. You guys are acting like they aren't going to gain any yardage on whatever plays the replace those 3 with.

right.

run game is purely based around winning 1 on 1s (or actually turning 1 on 1s into 1 on 2s)

Without speed/pancakes/jukes/broken tackle it is difficult to win a 1 on 1 for a hb -- or for a blocker - especially in the 1st half of rookie.

Originally posted by Galithor
Well, its wrth pointing out one thing for rookie balancing purposes.

Its not that passing is OP in rookie. Its pretty awful in its own right.

Its that HBs don't really break any tackles in rookie, so rushing is just pitiful without the untouched touchdown type plays in the playbook.

No idea how you improve tackle breaking in rookie without also impacting some interactions at veteran (particularly on pass catchers).

not rly...TEs who do not spend a single point in CIT should not win so many rolls in that situation. not at all

Originally posted by Parab00n
They didn't lose 30% of their offense, they lost 3 plays. You guys are acting like they aren't going to gain any yardage on whatever plays the replace those 3 with.

are you high? drunk? what is your problem today -- you are making no sense.

you asked for data.

data was provided that 30% of their offense came from goal line.

will they run something else instead? yes. will they get 17 yards per carry from it? probably not (which is a good thing)

Originally posted by TxSteve
are you high? drunk? what is your problem today -- you are making no sense.

you asked for data.

data was provided that 30% of their offense came from goal line.

will they run something else instead? yes. will they get 17 yards per carry from it? probably not (which is a good thing)

How is this not making any sense? The rookie teams this season aren't going to have a 30% loss in production, will it be a drop? Absolutely. However its not like those are the only outside rushes that work. Just using Peeti's team with rushes he used a lot. Don't get all pissed because I don't agree with you...

SI QB Rollout - 11.3 YPC
SB Trip QB Rollout - 10 YPC
Big I HB Sweep Left - 8.3 YPC
Big I QB Rollout Left - 7.4 YPC

Originally posted by peeti
not rly...TEs who do not spend a single point in CIT should not win so many rolls in that situation. not at all

Run the right plays on defense. You beat a receiving TE by having him not get targeted. Leaving him covered 1 on 1 on TE Post is a bad plan all the way up to Veteran.

Originally posted by TxSteve
right.

run game is purely based around winning 1 on 1s (or actually turning 1 on 1s into 1 on 2s)

Without speed/pancakes/jukes/broken tackle it is difficult to win a 1 on 1 for a hb -- or for a blocker - especially in the 1st half of rookie.




First half of rookie is generally hard on everyone (both pass and run) because chem and lack of skills keeps low scoring.