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jdbolick
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
As far as dominant stretches goes, Valhalla had a 3-peat in early WL, HHWC had a 3-peat in s17-s19, and Odessa currently has a 4-peat going s42-s45. In my eyes, HHWC had the toughest competition in that time period of the 3 streaks, as valhalla was a little earlier before all of GLB were on the right level with builds/VA/AE

I would actually say that s13-s15 was a tougher stretch than s17-19, although both were a hell of a challenge. The other s13 playoff teams in Valhalla's conference were Blaze, MPHD, Hali, TKW, Nashville, Santiago, and Kansas City. The league was deep too, as Alpine went 6-10, Korb went 4-12, and Cincinnati went 3-13. In s14 Valhalla faced the Blaze, MoD, Bonn, So Cal, Providence, Honolulu, and Warsaw. s15 was arguably the easiest road, featuring So Cal, Lincoln, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Bonn, Moose Jaw, and Mayan. The other conference was tougher, as Honolulu missed the playoffs that season at 7-9. HHWC's toughest run of their stretch came in s19.
 
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Originally posted by MadMustaff
still saying... our dots have never been considered best builds in GLB as the main reason we won Golds.. no way at the same level as Valhalla, Blaze, HHWC



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HHWC did win back to back in seasons 38,39. Was the competition so much more fierce then compared to season 42-45?

No. Everything after s30 is worth half a ring.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

That's not at all true and I posted the links proving it. It's fine that you didn't remember things correctly, but continuing to argue about it after someone proved that you didn't remember things correctly doesn't do you any favors.


It is true. You posting 2 threads created after he called it quits doesn't show you correct about a thing.

Originally posted by jdbolick

Again, not at all true. I DCed against Valhalla for several seasons while you never did. I know what I'm talking about on this while you do not.


I did help DC against Valhalla. And yes they ran all the same exact plays Lincoln and Blaze did. Don't tell me what I did and didn't do. I know. You do not.



 
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Originally posted by MadMustaff
still saying... our dots have never been considered best builds in GLB as the main reason we won Golds.. no way at the same level as Valhalla, Blaze, HHWC... yes..i'm talking more so in the early seasons. ssn 15-30 or whatever.. i get your points about recent season and dwindling GLB numbers.


Pretty sure all the seasons you won WL you had dots just as good as any HHWC team.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

I would actually say that s13-s15 was a tougher stretch than s17-19, although both were a hell of a challenge. The other s13 playoff teams in Valhalla's conference were Blaze, MPHD, Hali, TKW, Nashville, Santiago, and Kansas City. The league was deep too, as Alpine went 6-10, Korb went 4-12, and Cincinnati went 3-13. In s14 Valhalla faced the Blaze, MoD, Bonn, So Cal, Providence, Honolulu, and Warsaw. s15 was arguably the easiest road, featuring So Cal, Lincoln, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Bonn, Moose Jaw, and Mayan. The other conference was tougher, as Honolulu missed the playoffs that season at 7-9. HHWC's toughest run of their stretch came in s19.


Absolutely none of those teams were on Blaze or Valhalla's level. Lincoln was the 3rd best team and that was hardly close.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
It is true. You posting 2 threads created after he called it quits doesn't show you correct about a thing.

Except that it does, not only because it shows that alloy immediately gutted the team after their last title win, but because no one in either thread mentions anything whatsoever about being blindsided. Again, you're confusing Valhalla with the stat-padding team alloy was going to have in Pro before he decided to give his dots away instead.

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I did help DC against Valhalla. And yes they ran all the same exact plays Lincoln and Blaze did. Don't tell me what I did and didn't do. I know. You do not.

This is just getting embarrassing. You had nothing to do with DCing against Valhalla. Don't make things up just because you're defensive about being completely wrong.
 
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Well I guess that isn't entirely fair to say the teams weren't close to us. We did lose some games outside of season 15. But none of those teams were on the level of Blaze or Valhalla at all.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Except that it does, not only because it shows that alloy immediately gutted the team after their last title win, but because no one in either thread mentions anything whatsoever about being blindsided. Again, you're confusing Valhalla with the stat-padding team alloy was going to have in Pro before he decided to give his dots away instead.


Boomer's HB was recruited. alloy then called it quits and he had to move to another team.

Originally posted by jdbolick

This is just getting embarrassing. You had nothing to do with DCing against Valhalla. Don't make things up just because you're defensive about being completely wrong.


The only thing embarrassing here is you. I had plenty to do with DC'ing against Valhalla because outside of dpride and myself nobody knew his offense better.
 
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I had Valhalla scouted out to a T. We just couldn't stop their builds. They ran the exact same gameplan I did all season.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

I would actually say that s13-s15 was a tougher stretch than s17-19, although both were a hell of a challenge. The other s13 playoff teams in Valhalla's conference were Blaze, MPHD, Hali, TKW, Nashville, Santiago, and Kansas City. The league was deep too, as Alpine went 6-10, Korb went 4-12, and Cincinnati went 3-13. In s14 Valhalla faced the Blaze, MoD, Bonn, So Cal, Providence, Honolulu, and Warsaw. s15 was arguably the easiest road, featuring So Cal, Lincoln, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Bonn, Moose Jaw, and Mayan. The other conference was tougher, as Honolulu missed the playoffs that season at 7-9. HHWC's toughest run of their stretch came in s19.


wow

I was the DC of Nashville and i can definitely tell you he didn't change game plans. I knew he was throwing to his 140 catching TE on 3rd down, i would put 3 defenders on him and he still caught it every time. I would love to see some of the coordinators during this time play after all the nerfs came through. After season 18 or so.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
The only thing embarrassing here is you. I had plenty to do with DC'ing against Valhalla because outside of dpride and myself nobody knew his offense better.

You've admitted many times that you didn't attempt DCing until the last year or so. And even if you hadn't said that, claiming that you knew more than actual DCs who faced Valhalla is just ridiculous. I faced both Valhalla and Lincoln. Those were not the same offenses at all. For one thing, Valhalla was much more balanced thanks to a far superior running game. In s14 when you faced them in the title game they had gained 4181 rushing yards (7.22 ypc) and scored 100 rushing touchdowns. Lincoln rushed for 3079 (5.68 ypc) and scored 54 rushing touchdowns. Meanwhile Lincoln didn't pass anywhere near as often to the TE as Valhalla. Otis Raymond had 22 catches for 219.5 yards and 0 touchdowns that season. Quinn Rampage had 92 catches for 1,238 yards and 10 touchdowns. You need to walk away from this argument before you look any worse than you already do.
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
I was the DC of Nashville and i can definitely tell you he didn't change game plans.

I didn't say that he changed game plans, I said that his game plan was very different from Lincoln's.

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I knew he was throwing to his 140 catching TE on 3rd down, i would put 3 defenders on him and he still caught it every time.

72.08 catching with 12% catch ball, actually. The build was opened: http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=659847
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

You've admitted many times that you didn't attempt DCing until the last year or so. And even if you hadn't said that, claiming that you knew more than actual DCs who faced Valhalla is just ridiculous. I faced both Valhalla and Lincoln. Those were not the same offenses at all. For one thing, Valhalla was much more balanced thanks to a far superior running game. In s14 when you faced them in the title game they had gained 4181 rushing yards (7.22 ypc) and scored 100 rushing touchdowns. Lincoln rushed for 3079 (5.68 ypc) and scored 54 rushing touchdowns. Meanwhile Lincoln didn't pass anywhere near as often to the TE as Valhalla. Otis Raymond had 22 catches for 219.5 yards and 0 touchdowns that season. Quinn Rampage had 92 catches for 1,238 yards and 10 touchdowns. You need to walk away from this argument before you look any worse than you already do.


What are you even talking about?

I DC'd all my early teams even when they went to the full DPC. I scouted out all the opponents we faced when on a number of teams. Do you think that OC's don't scout out other opponents? Do you think only DC's do that?

Spouting out random statistics when Valhalla consistently dominated opponents and hardly ever had a close game is hilarious. Thanks for the stupidity.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
In s14 when you faced them in the title game they had gained 4181 rushing yards (7.22 ypc) and scored 100 rushing touchdowns. Lincoln rushed for 3079 (5.68 ypc) and scored 54 rushing touchdowns.


It is amazing to me that you are using total stats to try and somehow prove we weren't similar offenses. Are you dense?
 
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