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Corndog
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Originally posted by . Ninja
h2h The Simpsons


Um, no.

Simpsons lost to Battle Creek TWICE and lost to Whoville.

I'm going to guess a 1-3 record is not the h2h winner.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
It sorts the entire league by those credentials.

The first Alpha team in the array is the Alpha champion.
The first Beta team in the array is the Beta champion.
The first Gamma team in the array is the Gamma champion.

The first who is not a champion is the wild card.


Hmm... it should probably sort each division like that to determine the division winner and then compare the remaining teams to determine wild card.

I mean, what does H2H for the entire league even mean in the sort? My H2H against the entire league would just duplicate my w/l record in the league, wouldn't it?
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Um, no.

Simpsons lost to Battle Creek TWICE and lost to Whoville.

I'm going to guess a 1-3 record is not the h2h winner.


Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Just to clarify it, would h2h take ALL teams with the same record into account? Like if one of the teams in the array is a champion, are they removed from that h2h comparison?


Answers my question.

Agree with time trial that the array should imo sort that after division winners are removed.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Um, no.

Simpsons lost to Battle Creek TWICE and lost to Whoville.

I'm going to guess a 1-3 record is not the h2h winner.


Ah... so H2H is the H2H against teams that are not trying to get into the wild card, but who are already in the playoffs due to being division winners.
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Answers my question.

Agree with time trial that the array should imo sort that after division winners are removed.


Why?

Isn't the better team the team that won against the even better teams, rather than getting beat on by them?
Edited by Corndog on Oct 7, 2014 14:43:38
 
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Shouldn't the team that beat the champion in league play be considered higher ranked than the team that lost to the champion?
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Why?

Isn't the better team the team that won against the even better teams, rather than getting beat on by them?


Impact of what division you're in (who you play twice)

aka I feel bad for the teams that have to play Queen City twice.
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Oct 7, 2014 14:46:10
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Impact of what division you're in (who you play twice)

aka I feel bad for the teams that have to play Queen City twice.


Which only matters in h2h if they tied with Queen City.
 
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Though, it still wouldn't actually matter.

That team would have zero wins against QC, and the out of division tie would also have zero wins against QC. The tied team in your division would actually have an advantage in that they had two chances to get a W against QC.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Why?

Isn't the better team the team that won against the even better teams, rather than getting beat on by them?


That is still not correct then for Music City and Dakota:

IE Warsaw, MCM, and Dakota

Wins , Losses , Ties (All Even)

Head to Head
Warsaw is 2-1
Dakota is 1-1
MCM is 1-2
 
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Originally posted by william78
That is still not correct then for Music City and Dakota:

IE Warsaw, MCM, and Dakota

Wins , Losses , Ties (All Even)

Head to Head
Warsaw is 2-1
Dakota is 1-1
MCM is 1-2


Warsaw is 2
Dakota is 1
MCM is 1
 
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Originally posted by william78
That is still not correct then for Music City and Dakota:

IE Warsaw, MCM, and Dakota

Wins , Losses , Ties (All Even)

Head to Head
Warsaw is 2-1
Dakota is 1-1
MCM is 1-2


Tiger Sort (If the Corndog is correct)
1. Portland Ronin 13-1
2. Warsaw Wrath 11-3(By virtue of Head to Head 2-1 versus all others @ 11-3)
3. Dakota Dire Wolves 11-3 (By virtue of Head to Head 1-1 versus all others @11-3)
4. Music City Miracle 11-3 (By virtue of Head to Head 1-2 versus all others @11-3)
5. Legacy 9-5
6. Minnesota Bad Axes 7-7 (By Virtue of Head to Head against all others 7-7)
7. Killer Konvicts 7-7 (By Virtue of Head to Head against all others 7-7)
8. Rocky Mountain Thunder 7-7 (By Virtue of Head to Head against all others 7-7)
9. Hillybilly Coondogs 5-9
10.San Jose Dragons 2-12
11. Montana Grizzles 1-11
12. Sparta 0-12

If it sorted the way you've diagrammed it would spit out Ronin (Gamma), Warsaw Wrath (Alpha), Minnesota Bad Axes (Beta), then Dakota in #3.... unless the script isn't work as you've described/intended.

As I said just looking for consistency and right now it is not being consistent based on divisional location.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Shouldn't the team that beat the champion in league play be considered higher ranked than the team that lost to the champion?


Maybe... but as you said here:

Originally posted by Corndog
Which only matters in h2h if they tied with Queen City.


It compares only the teams with the tied win/loss records, not whether they beat the best teams in the league.

In the case of Taurus, the Simpsons lost twice to BCM and once to Whoville, who are already in the playoffs. However, the Wolfpack lost to The Simpsons in their H2H and the other division leader, TT's Constellation Superstars, twice.

In that case... what if TT's had dropped their last game? TT's record would have been 2 wins against Wolfpack, a win against BCM, and a loss against the Simpsons. Suddenly having another team in the mix changes who gets in through the wildcard, even though they were clearly the division winner.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Warsaw is 2
Dakota is 1
MCM is 1


So Warsaw got an advantage because they played MCM twice and us once? In other words our only chance to win this tiebreaker was to beat both teams (eliminating the need for a tiebreaker?)
 
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this is way we need a 6 team play off. Divison winners then wildcards. Give the 2 best by week.
 
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