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Btw Corndog,

My biggest concern with this isn't the play itself. It's the precedent. It's pretty much the same thing that happens in all kinds of online games.

A very vocal minority bitches about something with lots of claims of "OP" without bothering to do any kind of look at whether or not it actually does produce overwhelmingly successful results. It beat them. It can't be their fault. Therefore, "OP".

So you nerf QB Rollout. Whatever. I run HB sweeps. So now HB sweeps are OP because that's how I'm beating teams.

Wanna bet on the likelihood of hearing cries of "OP"?

Games that do down this path tend to get really simple-minded really quick. Such games bore me, and I'm kinda likin' GBL2 and don't want it to get boring.

Goalline should only be used for short yardage situations.

Originally posted by Xavori
What's wrong with getting LB's/DB's to not rush into the scrum and instead make Pursuit checks and moving down behind the scrum until they can actually see the ball carrier?

That fixes a whole lot of a lot of things that are wrong with stopping running teams.

Because then I will spam dives while your LBs are loling around the secondary.
LBs especially are meant to plug open gaps, having them shuffle up and down the field is so lol and unrealistic and will cause outrage.

Originally posted by Corndog
Well, if there's no elegant solution thought of (I don't particularly have one in mind), and all the time is spent with a couple people typing paragraphs about how it isn't actually that strong, then just going to have to "fix it".

I'm Down for a nerf or a buff or whatever, but what kinda "fix" do you have in mind. cuz like, i still don't see whats broken lel.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
Goalline should only be used for short yardage situations.

Learn how to defend goalline and ppl won't run it at all.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
Just take it out of the playbook. Easy.

Give me full, not just the partial respec we currently have, but full respecs for all the players on Yorick's offense then. Anything less is breaking something I, and every other Lounger, already paid for.

And I'll immediately have the Loungers build the offense I'd go with knowing all the stuff I've learned from what Yorick did. And then Corndog will hear a lot of cries about a lot of other plays suddenly being OP.

That was bad trolling................

Xav you know I haven't once suggested that is a serious solution!

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
Because then I will spam dives while your LBs are loling around the secondary.
LBs especially are meant to plug open gaps, having them shuffle up and down the field is so lol and unrealistic and will cause outrage.


My solution is EXACTLY how real defensive players are supposed to play. Go watch film of how Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, etc played middle linebacker. They did not going charging straight at the 300+ lb lineman. They shuffled/ran behind the line until they could see the ball carrier, and then they exploded towards them.

On a dive, they just don't shuffle as far, instead stopping at the same hole the back is planning on going through.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
That was bad trolling................



i pray you aren't talking about my post.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
i pray you aren't talking about my post.

Talking about myself. Knew I'd get a quick bite on people if I suggested that.

I love the challenge of stopping teams like yorick. Although I do think a slight tweak is needed, not as much as others

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
That was bad trolling................



Ya, but to be honest, I'd really like to have full respecs of my offense, and if Maizehound takes away the only play that isn't broken for how our entire offense was originally built, he'd have a tough time convincing anyone that it's okay customer service to just ignore the fact he broke a team with no restitution, so that'd be my best chance at making that argument.

And with those respecs, I'd happily dump QB runs entirely to have a three HB attack since HB's have naturally higher caps on running skills, and hence, aren't completely dependent on lead blocking for success. With three of them, I'd break defenses even faster than I do now

That's kinda the big "If I knew then what I know now" point...

Originally posted by Xavori
My solution is EXACTLY how real defensive players are supposed to play.


Have fun with that. Pls let me know exactly how much shuffling you can do when Dri Archer who can run a 4.23 is going to come flying through the gap right behind his lead blocker any second...

You most definitely do not shuffle when you see a gap open ahead of you. You go or the FB will come through and lay a smack. Watch Vonta Leach lay smacks on LBs who are standing still or shuffling.

Besides, what will this shuffle be governed by when the first responsibility is pass coverage? Shuffle until the HB is in the endzone? Pass Defense comes first here.

Originally posted by Corndog
Again, wat

Is it not obvious that toughness and intimidation affect how much morale is lost on being tackled?

Wasn't sure if you were implying that the idea needs to take it into account more, or it's in the game already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrnDLXxVoFE

shuffling. Right Xav? Shuffling?

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
You most definitely do not shuffle when you see a gap open ahead of you.
I think you're confused about what Xav is saying. He's saying they shuffle when they *don't* see a gap open in front of them. It's not that the linebackers should stay in the backfield playing tiddlywinks until the ballcarrier gets to them, it's that they generally don't want to actively engage linemen.