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Originally posted by bhall43
Well if you can't answer that on yourself this suggestion is beyond your capabilities.


You want to sell out against the outside run against the GL be my guest, but you are going to get burned by someone just running between the tackles.
 
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Bad argument is bad.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Bad argument is bad.


Really? Because if a team can run outside, you better damn well believe they can run between the tackles.

You try that against Bruiser and that is a guaranteed 6 points. The oline will eat those three D-line players for breakfast and send five more into the secondary. If bruiser even had to break a tackle it would surprise me.
 
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Why are you applying this to your team?

I have a pretty good idea what plays people are running and when. If you are going to run up the middle ldo i wouldn't be using Quarter formation. Again bad argument is bad.
 
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confused as to why anyone would purposely combat a GL dive with a 3DL play?

 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Why are you applying this to your team?

I have a pretty good idea what plays people are running and when. If you are going to run up the middle ldo i wouldn't be using Quarter formation. Again bad argument is bad.


You don't think that the minute you start sending out quarter LBers the other team isn't going to respond to that by putting 30 or 40% into inside GL plays and the rest on the outside?

I mean, you try that against Queen City? They have probably the best outside rush in the game, but that doesn't mean that I'm not also worried about their inside rush.

Again, you are making this about 5 LBers and a bunch of shit.

Think about what you are saying. As you rightly said, if you edit the depth chart for your team and put 5 LBs in for your Quarter D, that's ALL you can put in your quarter D. That means if they run a passing play where you would have wanted to use quarter, that's out unless you were planning to run LBs.

You still haven't dealt with the argument that the O can put TEs in at WR. How can you give them that option and not allow a counter?

Especially since you can already put in as many LBs over the WRs as there are WRs on the field (with no OOP).
 
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Like TT's Wolfpack of One? Ya I definitely wouldn't be running Quarter against GL Formation because the only 2 plays you ran from GL Formation all of last season was HB Sting and HB Off Tackle. Mostly just Sting though. So ya, I sure as hell wouldn't let Bruiser run up the middle with a Quarter Formation.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
You don't think that the minute you start sending out quarter LBers the other team isn't going to respond to that by putting 30 or 40% into inside GL plays and the rest on the outside?

I mean, you try that against Queen City? They have probably the best outside rush in the game, but that doesn't mean that I'm not also worried about their inside rush.

Again, you are making this about 5 LBers and a bunch of shit.

Think about what you are saying. As you rightly said, if you edit the depth chart for your team and put 5 LBs in for your Quarter D, that's ALL you can put in your quarter D. That means if they run a passing play where you would have wanted to use quarter, that's out unless you were planning to run LBs.

You still haven't dealt with the argument that the O can put TEs in at WR. How can you give them that option and not allow a counter?

Especially since you can already put in as many LBs over the WRs as there are WRs on the field (with no OOP).


Stop trying to apply this to specific teams because it is making you look ridiculous. I know who I would use that against and no I wouldn't just send that defense out every single time. You are just making more and more ridiculously dumb arguments.
 
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TT I know you are much smarter than this than to try and apply a lame ass argument of OMG if you put LB's at Quarter you lose Quarter formation. Do you think I care if I am facing a rushing team? Do I care that I just gave up Quarter formation? Jesus tap dancing christ....
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Stop trying to apply this to specific teams because it is making you look ridiculous. I know who I would use that against and no I wouldn't just send that defense out every single time. You are just making more and more ridiculously dumb arguments.


TEs can play WR.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
TEs can play WR.


There is no Offensive formation depth chart. So it really doesn't matter if OG's can play at WR. That is the point you continually are failing to comprehend.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
TT I know you are much smarter than this than to try and apply a lame ass argument of OMG if you put LB's at Quarter you lose Quarter formation. Do you think I care if I am facing a rushing team? Do I care that I just gave up Quarter formation? Jesus tap dancing christ....


Anyone can pass in this sim. Wolfpack can pass in this sim and they don't have anyone with more than 30 pass protection on the o-line.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
There is no Offensive formation depth chart. So it really doesn't matter if OG's can play at WR. That is the point you continually are failing to comprehend.


When they can put an unstoppable player at WR, they don't even need to think about what they are giving up because there is no defensive counter.
 
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We don't care what Wolfpack does they are irrelevant to the conversation. You don't have full blown blocking WR's. I am not afraid of your pitch game in the slightest. And you don't have an RQB. Irrelevant to the conversation.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
We don't care what Wolfpack does they are irrelevant to the conversation. You don't have full blown blocking WR's. I am not afraid of your pitch game in the slightest. And you don't have an RQB. Irrelevant to the conversation.


No, but I have two blocking TEs. I'm not using them as WRs right now because I think that is weak sauce, but I certainly could.

I used to run a two depth chart system that had all of my run blockers and blocking WRs on one side and then flipped.

As a DC, you wouldn't know which way I was going to run when I ran that system because in two clicks the entire scheme changed.
 
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