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Forum > Goal Line Blitz > GLB1 its a crying shame
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The quickest way to infuse more life into GLB1 is to shut down GLB2 immediately.
With an already declining user base in GLB1, the answer to increasing business is not to launch a 2nd football game with a terrible user interface that helps to further splinter your user base.
Yes, some people like GLB2. Some people like GLB1. But there aren't enough people to properly support both. You have to pick one and go with it. Since you obviously can't kill off GLB1 without losing the majority of your users, it's an easy answer.
I get it. A lot of work and long term vision went into GLB2. But it didn't catch on as much as hoped and didn't draw as many people from GLB1 as I'm sure was hoped. If you can't support 2 platforms and refuse to acknowledge reality you condemn both to failure.
With an already declining user base in GLB1, the answer to increasing business is not to launch a 2nd football game with a terrible user interface that helps to further splinter your user base.
Yes, some people like GLB2. Some people like GLB1. But there aren't enough people to properly support both. You have to pick one and go with it. Since you obviously can't kill off GLB1 without losing the majority of your users, it's an easy answer.
I get it. A lot of work and long term vision went into GLB2. But it didn't catch on as much as hoped and didn't draw as many people from GLB1 as I'm sure was hoped. If you can't support 2 platforms and refuse to acknowledge reality you condemn both to failure.
Edited by sicarius on Feb 13, 2014 23:25:21
Originally posted by sicarius
The quickest way to infuse more life into GLB1 is to shut down GLB2 immediately.
You may as well give up on that dream.
The quickest way to infuse more life into GLB1 is to shut down GLB2 immediately.
You may as well give up on that dream.
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Originally posted by Corndog
You may as well give up on that dream.
I don't at all expect it to happen. Just stating the obvious - that the accelerated overall demise of the GLB franchise is a self inflicted wound.
I've experienced similar problems with businesses who have a lot more operating capitol than WG. But most have been able to have the vision (and financial analysis) to understand the ramifications of the decision and taken corrective action before it's too late.
The biggest one in recent times (~ past 5 years) was the merger of Wyeth and Pfizer drug companies (Pfizer bought Wyeth). It married the 2 pharma companies with the biggest cash reserves and gave Pfizer's drug pipeline a badly needed infusion.
Everything made sense, right? Nope. Way too many miscalculations by the Pfizer bean counters and they very quickly realized they couldn't afford their grand new vision. Exit Pfizer's CEO and a few others. Enter the clean up team who immediately began unraveling the financial mess. They're still struggling, but have at least begun consolidating assets back to a point of sustainability.
There's obviously a lot more to this whole story but irrelevant to the anecdote.
Now I'm not suggesting WG needs to remove it's CEO or anyone else. But what DOES need to happen is the leadership team needs to step back and take a long, hard, OBJECTIVE look at current assets, forecasting, supply chain projections, and resource allocation. If those assessments are done with an unbiased eye, the answer will jump off the page.
Figure out which battle you have the best chance of winning and concentrate your forces there. If you intentionally thin out the ranks on both fronts you lose both battles.
None of this means GLB is magically saved. The answer could simply be that it's all going to die regardless of the divided or unified fronts. But at least give yourself a chance to succeed.
You may as well give up on that dream.
I don't at all expect it to happen. Just stating the obvious - that the accelerated overall demise of the GLB franchise is a self inflicted wound.
I've experienced similar problems with businesses who have a lot more operating capitol than WG. But most have been able to have the vision (and financial analysis) to understand the ramifications of the decision and taken corrective action before it's too late.
The biggest one in recent times (~ past 5 years) was the merger of Wyeth and Pfizer drug companies (Pfizer bought Wyeth). It married the 2 pharma companies with the biggest cash reserves and gave Pfizer's drug pipeline a badly needed infusion.
Everything made sense, right? Nope. Way too many miscalculations by the Pfizer bean counters and they very quickly realized they couldn't afford their grand new vision. Exit Pfizer's CEO and a few others. Enter the clean up team who immediately began unraveling the financial mess. They're still struggling, but have at least begun consolidating assets back to a point of sustainability.
There's obviously a lot more to this whole story but irrelevant to the anecdote.
Now I'm not suggesting WG needs to remove it's CEO or anyone else. But what DOES need to happen is the leadership team needs to step back and take a long, hard, OBJECTIVE look at current assets, forecasting, supply chain projections, and resource allocation. If those assessments are done with an unbiased eye, the answer will jump off the page.
Figure out which battle you have the best chance of winning and concentrate your forces there. If you intentionally thin out the ranks on both fronts you lose both battles.
None of this means GLB is magically saved. The answer could simply be that it's all going to die regardless of the divided or unified fronts. But at least give yourself a chance to succeed.
Originally posted by sicarius
I don't at all expect it to happen. Just stating the obvious - that the accelerated overall demise of the GLB franchise is a self inflicted wound..
As long as you considering a growing userbase to be an accelerated demise, sure. I'm personally on the side of the fence that considers a growing userbase to be a good thing.
I don't at all expect it to happen. Just stating the obvious - that the accelerated overall demise of the GLB franchise is a self inflicted wound..
As long as you considering a growing userbase to be an accelerated demise, sure. I'm personally on the side of the fence that considers a growing userbase to be a good thing.
Edited by Corndog on Feb 13, 2014 23:51:21
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That might be the case for glb2 but ain't no player base growing on this side of the fence. Until the rookie numbers start moving in the opposite direction I'm not convinced. We will get a look see real quick where its headed in a couple weeks here.
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Originally posted by Corndog
As long as you considering a growing userbase to be an accelerated demise, sure.
Growing userbase is definitely good.
But it's the noticeably decreased activity of that userbase that is cause for concern. More people signing up is great, but they aren't participating like they used to which leads to only short term contributions (in most cases). That's where the forecasting and strategy analysis is needed, because there are plenty of business models out there that can help.
As long as you considering a growing userbase to be an accelerated demise, sure.
Growing userbase is definitely good.
But it's the noticeably decreased activity of that userbase that is cause for concern. More people signing up is great, but they aren't participating like they used to which leads to only short term contributions (in most cases). That's where the forecasting and strategy analysis is needed, because there are plenty of business models out there that can help.
Originally posted by bhall43
That might be the case for glb2 but ain't no player base growing on this side of the fence. Until the rookie numbers start moving in the opposite direction I'm not convinced. We will get a look see real quick where its headed in a couple weeks here.
It's overall users.
The number of active accounts is up between 30-40% on any given day compared to pre-GLB2 launch.
If everyone is "moving on" from GLB1, not sure how that is proof that we should close GLB2. Seems like chopping off one leg because the other is broken.
That might be the case for glb2 but ain't no player base growing on this side of the fence. Until the rookie numbers start moving in the opposite direction I'm not convinced. We will get a look see real quick where its headed in a couple weeks here.
It's overall users.
The number of active accounts is up between 30-40% on any given day compared to pre-GLB2 launch.
If everyone is "moving on" from GLB1, not sure how that is proof that we should close GLB2. Seems like chopping off one leg because the other is broken.
Edited by Corndog on Feb 14, 2014 00:02:18
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How do you define contributions? Are those users supposed to openly pick a side on the glb2 vs 1 forefront? Lol
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Originally posted by Corndog
It's overall users.
The number of active accounts is up between 30-40% on any given day compared to pre-GLB2 launch.
If everyone is "moving on" from GLB1, not sure how that is proof that we should close GLB2.
I know it's overall. But the player base isn't growing here obviously.
It's overall users.
The number of active accounts is up between 30-40% on any given day compared to pre-GLB2 launch.
If everyone is "moving on" from GLB1, not sure how that is proof that we should close GLB2.
I know it's overall. But the player base isn't growing here obviously.
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Originally posted by bhall43
I know it's overall. But the player base isn't growing here obviously.
Forums are the easiest way to take the game's temperature imo. If we're up 30%-40% that's great.
But as stated earlier, if those newly active accounts aren't interacting with the game beyond looking at a dot from time to time, they aren't long term contributors.
And forum activity is certainly NOT up.
I know it's overall. But the player base isn't growing here obviously.
Forums are the easiest way to take the game's temperature imo. If we're up 30%-40% that's great.
But as stated earlier, if those newly active accounts aren't interacting with the game beyond looking at a dot from time to time, they aren't long term contributors.
And forum activity is certainly NOT up.
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Originally posted by sicarius
Forums are the easiest way to take the game's temperature imo. If we're up 30%-40% that's great.
But as stated earlier, if those newly active accounts aren't interacting with the game beyond looking at a dot from time to time, they aren't long term contributors.
And forum activity is certainly NOT up.
They actually aren't.
Forums are the easiest way to take the game's temperature imo. If we're up 30%-40% that's great.
But as stated earlier, if those newly active accounts aren't interacting with the game beyond looking at a dot from time to time, they aren't long term contributors.
And forum activity is certainly NOT up.
They actually aren't.
Originally posted by sicarius
Forums are the easiest way to take the game's temperature imo. If we're up 30%-40% that's great.
But as stated earlier, if those newly active accounts aren't interacting with the game beyond looking at a dot from time to time, they aren't long term contributors.
And forum activity is certainly NOT up.
Would it be?
Showing any kind of enthusiasm gets you descended upon by the users of this forum like a pack of ravenous wolves and told to never spend a dime and to quit playing.
Forums are the easiest way to take the game's temperature imo. If we're up 30%-40% that's great.
But as stated earlier, if those newly active accounts aren't interacting with the game beyond looking at a dot from time to time, they aren't long term contributors.
And forum activity is certainly NOT up.
Would it be?
Showing any kind of enthusiasm gets you descended upon by the users of this forum like a pack of ravenous wolves and told to never spend a dime and to quit playing.
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I play a number of games where I have never once posted in their forums. This might actually be the only game I regularly do. None of my friends post on here. There are a bunch of glb2 guys popping up that I had never knew existed prior to glb2 but have now realized they were longtime users. The forums aren't a huge indicator of the game activity. The numbers are tho and glb1 isn't going up.
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