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Also you may want to learn what the word "contradict" means. Ben can be sacked, hence the 32 times this season but the issue is, he isn't taken down as easy as you are trying to act like he is.

The issue is there are no stats for hurries.
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Did a NFL game sim 10 times using this site - http://www.whatifsports.com/nfl/default.asp

Game 1 - Steelers 45 Packers 10
Game 2 - Steelers 24 Packers 14
Game 3 - Steelers 23 Packers 16
Game 4 - Steelers 10 Packers 13
Game 5 - Steelers 9 Packers 0
Game 6 - Steelers 37 Packers 3
Game 7 - Steelers 12 Packers 16
Game 8 - Steelers 10 Packers 3
Game 9 - Steelers 41 Packers 27
Game 10 - Steelers 13 Packers 22

Everything was set up as it will be played. Steelers the away team, Packers the home team. Played in Cowboys Stadium. Depth Chart set up by using NFL.com .

 
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Originally posted by Seric
Originally posted by Packers27

You contradict yourself alot don't you? If Rodgers has ben sacked 1 less time than Rothleisberger then how is it not hard to sack Rodgers, but hard to sack Ben? LOL!!! Now, you said something about your rush defense and our RB getting about 50 yards. Thats NOT the point. The rushing attempts is what matters. There is nothing I said about the Packers could lose this game. They very well could. The Steelers are good but we match us very very very well against them.

How is the Packers gonna beatt he Steelers? Well, if you are a true Steelers fan then you would know that the Steelers defense SUCKS when they are spread out. Troy will no longer be able to freelance like LeBeau likes to do with him. The Steelers will probably have success starting out but they will break eventually and when they do, we are very hard to predict. We pass out of running formations with PA and vice versa.

The Packers will win this game man. The Steelers are a great team but we match up much better against yall than we would've against the Jets.


You truly are an idiot and homer aren't you? Rodgers got sacked 31 times, Ben got sacked 32 times. So please tell me how that tells you that Ben is easy to sack and Rodgers isn't? Maybe if you got your head out of your ass you'd understand simple logic. Rodgers is ranked 13th in the NFL with most sacks. Rothlisberger is tied at 11 in the same category, because of that there is no 12th place. So yeah, it's obviously not that hard to sack him.

PLEASE tell me in the following statement, WHICH YOU POSTED, where you said ANYTHING about attempts.

Originally posted by Packers27


We recently found us a RB that can get us numbers. This makes us a nightmare for any team we face, including the Steelers.


You truly are hilarious. So you think the attempts are the important thing not the yards. You are beyond special.

You don't have to say the Packers could lose or will not lose. It's your whole demeanor. It the way you're talking about the Packers.


Alright,check this out dumbass. YES, we got a RB that can get us numbers IF the Steelers don't account for him. He's good enough to burn your asses and thats very possible because the Steelers will have to cover the pass. Like I said, we run our plays out of alot of formations so they dont know what the hell we are gonna do, neither do you. IT IS the attempts that what matters. If you know your football then you'd know that but instead you are a tool.
 
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Originally posted by Seric
Originally posted by Packers27

This is the Packers year. The Steelers will play us tough for two quarters but they won't be a match against us for 4.




Let me guess, you're going by how we played the Jets to determine this.


Nope! I'm going by your lowsy ass jacked up defense that the Steelers show when they're spreaded out. You have NO idea what your defense is getting into. Like I said, they will play us tough for a couple of quarters. It will be a very low scored game at the half but our playbook is unlimited with the passing. How the hell do you think we got this far without a running game? We ran the ball to keep the defense honest and we burn the one on ones. The steelers will be the same way. Obviously, you never played
 
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Originally posted by Seric
Also you may want to learn what the word "contradict" means. Ben can be sacked, hence the 32 times this season but the issue is, he isn't taken down as easy as you are trying to act like he is.

The issue is there are no stats for hurries.


Doesn't matter. We will pressure him if we sack him or not. We'll take the picks instead
 
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Originally posted by Seric
Did a NFL game sim 10 times using this site - http://www.whatifsports.com/nfl/default.asp

Game 1 - Steelers 45 Packers 10
Game 2 - Steelers 24 Packers 14
Game 3 - Steelers 23 Packers 16
Game 4 - Steelers 10 Packers 13
Game 5 - Steelers 9 Packers 0
Game 6 - Steelers 37 Packers 3
Game 7 - Steelers 12 Packers 16
Game 8 - Steelers 10 Packers 3
Game 9 - Steelers 41 Packers 27
Game 10 - Steelers 13 Packers 22

Everything was set up as it will be played. Steelers the away team, Packers the home team. Played in Cowboys Stadium. Depth Chart set up by using NFL.com .



You're an idiot!!!
 
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Seric, you're gonna find out exactly what I'm talking about tomorrow. I hope he does throw that damn ball when we get the heat on him. We're gonna pick his ass apart.
 
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pack by 17


 
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I love it less then 24 to go
 
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LOL!! Me too!
 
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Originally posted by Packers27
Alright,check this out dumbass. YES, we got a RB that can get us numbers IF the Steelers don't account for him. He's good enough to burn your asses and thats very possible because the Steelers will have to cover the pass. Like I said, we run our plays out of alot of formations so they dont know what the hell we are gonna do, neither do you. IT IS the attempts that what matters. If you know your football then you'd know that but instead you are a tool.


Oh so James Starks is going all of a sudden do things that the likes of Ray Rice, Ladanian Tomlinson, Chris Johnson, Michael Turner and more couldn't do? We don't need to focus on the RB to be able to stop the RB, unlike your Packers who in the regular season were ranked 18th against the run. The only reason you are ranked 2nd in the postseason is because most of the teams you played were playing from behind, so they passed a lot more.

Chicago 24 rushes, 38 passes
Atlanta 14 rushes, 29 passes
Philadelphia 21 rushes, 36 passes

You're the one saying the attempts are more important than the yards. You can attempt 50 times all you want, if you're not getting yards, then what good are the attempts? Only idiots try to run on the Steelers. So I hope they do attempt a lot.

Originally posted by Packers27
Nope! I'm going by your lowsy ass jacked up defense that the Steelers show when they're spreaded out. You have NO idea what your defense is getting into. Like I said, they will play us tough for a couple of quarters. It will be a very low scored game at the half but our playbook is unlimited with the passing. How the hell do you think we got this far without a running game? We ran the ball to keep the defense honest and we burn the one on ones. The steelers will be the same way. Obviously, you never played


Remember one thing, we played you LAST season WITHOUT Polomalu and OH SHIT, WE WON. I highly doubt your team changed so drastically from that game to this game that we won't be ready for you. Remember one thing, Ben put up 503 yards on your defense last season.

Obviously I don't need to have played to understand the fact that you are severely underestimating the Steelers Defense. Unlike you I know this is going to tough game for the ENTIRE game for both teams. We have to mainly focus on your Passing game, where you have to focus on both our passing game and our running game.

Originally posted by Packers27
Doesn't matter. We will pressure him if we sack him or not. We'll take the picks instead


Plenty of teams have pressured him yet in the regular season he only threw 5 INTs and only 2 in the Post season. Yet all of a sudden the pressure he's going to throw INTs.

Originally posted by Packers27
You're an idiot!!!


You're an idiot if you truly think that post was meant to be anything but fun.

Originally posted by Packers27
Seric, you're gonna find out exactly what I'm talking about tomorrow. I hope he does throw that damn ball when we get the heat on him. We're gonna pick his ass apart.


 
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Great read btw

Heres my take on the game: Pitt has shown that the spread offense is their achilles heel if they have one. GB will in fact run this style of offense & prolly be pretty successful at it. The problem is can they do it the entire game & not make that big mistake that Pitt will make them pay for. The Steelers play the style of D that is focused on stopping the run (GB has none) & to not give up the big play by keeping all the short underneath stuff in front of them.

Yes, Rodgers is playing super right now & as long as their O-line can hold up & he can get a quick release to his WR's then the Steelers we will have trouble stopping the short pass game. The Patriots abused us in this fashion & I believe that GB has better WR's & can be more effective at this. The problem is GB does NOT have a great O-line & its pretty much a given that you can get to Rodgers & apply pressure - what the Steelers are best in NFL at. Steeler D has to show it can stop the pass game AND consistently get to Rodgers otherwise he will carve the Steelers secondary up even with Polomalu in the game.

If Steelers can adequately protect Ben then we can easily impose Our gameplan on them. Packer D is solid but I believe we have too many options for GB to counter. Mendy, Heath, Ward, Wallace, Sanders plus a pretty good run game that if it gets on track quickly will suck the life out of GB defense. Clay Matthews is a beast & fully expect him to cause problems in one way or another. Packer secondary is pretty good but like any secondary if the QB has time to extend the play or buy more time then they will surrender some big plays.

As a die-hard Black & Gold supporter & fan I want the Steelers to win but have no idea who will take the trophy in this one. I'm just hoping for an awesome game between 2 teams that definitely belong here. Prediction Steelers 31 Pack 27
 
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Originally posted by Seric
Originally posted by Packers27

Alright,check this out dumbass. YES, we got a RB that can get us numbers IF the Steelers don't account for him. He's good enough to burn your asses and thats very possible because the Steelers will have to cover the pass. Like I said, we run our plays out of alot of formations so they dont know what the hell we are gonna do, neither do you. IT IS the attempts that what matters. If you know your football then you'd know that but instead you are a tool.


Oh so James Starks is going all of a sudden do things that the likes of Ray Rice, Ladanian Tomlinson, Chris Johnson, Michael Turner and more couldn't do? We don't need to focus on the RB to be able to stop the RB, unlike your Packers who in the regular season were ranked 18th against the run. The only reason you are ranked 2nd in the postseason is because most of the teams you played were playing from behind, so they passed a lot more.

Chicago 24 rushes, 38 passes
Atlanta 14 rushes, 29 passes
Philadelphia 21 rushes, 36 passes

You're the one saying the attempts are more important than the yards. You can attempt 50 times all you want, if you're not getting yards, then what good are the attempts? Only idiots try to run on the Steelers. So I hope they do attempt a lot.

Originally posted by Packers27

Nope! I'm going by your lowsy ass jacked up defense that the Steelers show when they're spreaded out. You have NO idea what your defense is getting into. Like I said, they will play us tough for a couple of quarters. It will be a very low scored game at the half but our playbook is unlimited with the passing. How the hell do you think we got this far without a running game? We ran the ball to keep the defense honest and we burn the one on ones. The steelers will be the same way. Obviously, you never played


Remember one thing, we played you LAST season WITHOUT Polomalu and OH SHIT, WE WON. I highly doubt your team changed so drastically from that game to this game that we won't be ready for you. Remember one thing, Ben put up 503 yards on your defense last season.

Obviously I don't need to have played to understand the fact that you are severely underestimating the Steelers Defense. Unlike you I know this is going to tough game for the ENTIRE game for both teams. We have to mainly focus on your Passing game, where you have to focus on both our passing game and our running game.

Originally posted by Packers27

Doesn't matter. We will pressure him if we sack him or not. We'll take the picks instead


Plenty of teams have pressured him yet in the regular season he only threw 5 INTs and only 2 in the Post season. Yet all of a sudden the pressure he's going to throw INTs.

Originally posted by Packers27

You're an idiot!!!


You're an idiot if you truly think that post was meant to be anything but fun.

Originally posted by Packers27

Seric, you're gonna find out exactly what I'm talking about tomorrow. I hope he does throw that damn ball when we get the heat on him. We're gonna pick his ass apart.




You are an amazing character. I think you try to act stupid but I know that you are stubborn and you don't know your game because you are too hard-headed to learn anything and you think you already know it all. Dude, I played 4 hs years and 4 college years. I know how the game works on offense and defense. Let me explain this to you so you can understand. This is your dummy guide to all of your wacked out replies.

1)No, I neve said that James Starks is gonna run all over the Steelers BUT the Steelers is gonna have to account for the pass and when they do, we can get 3 or 4 yards on the ground or more when we run out of those forms.

2)YES, you heard it right. It IS all about the rushing attempts. How are we able to pass all over everyone in the season without a running game? We balance out the play selection and we do very well with the run when defenses have 5 DBs on the field. If we did not run the ball at all then defenses can almost double all of our WRs when we run 3WR sets. We'd have no chance but since we try to run the ball it makes the defense adjust to tackling the running back and that sets up play-action with one on one matchups. If the Steelers drop LBs in coverage and we run the ball up the middle, then guess what? We're gonna get good yards from it. The reason why yall are so good against the run is not just your players, its Dick LeBeau. He's been around a long time and he knows how to get his best personel on the field at the right times, USUALLY. The problem with this is, the Packers run and pass the ball out of passing forms. We are unpredictable so LeBeau is gonna have a challenge on his hands. Since we do alot of our passing out of shotgun, you'll see plenty of 2nd n 4ish when Rodgers gets the ball under center and fakes the handoff and goes deep. What will the Steelers do about that when he has 4 LBs in and Troy in the box?

3)We can't stop the RBs? Who cares when the other teams are playing from behind? We're good against the pass too.

4)Oh, its funny how you bring up last season's game because how I remember it is much different. We had starters out too and YES, we are that much better. We're NFC champs now. We had a jacked up 4th string corner (Josh Bell) covering the receiver when he gave up the TD to end the game. I don't call that convincing. I call that losing the game ourselves.

5)All you have to do is focus on our passing game? Is that gonna be easy? We'll like I said. The Steelers suck when they're spreaded out. Thats why they're truly not a good passing defense because they can't cover four good receivers. We can!

6)Big Ben is gonna face a defense that sends pressure to make him get the ball out quick as our secondary is ball hawks. If he doesn't get theh ball out then he will be sacked or he will have to extend the play. Thats obvious. I like our chances. The Steelers will send pressure too. Rodgers has better feet than Ben does. I like our chances better to elude from pressure

7)This is the Super Bowl. Both teams will play their hardest. The Steelers will have to put up 28 just to hang with us and I don't see our defense giving up 28. Do you see the Steelers giving up that much to us? I think they will, but more scoring will happen in the second half imo

8)The Steelers ain't getting #7 on us. That trophy means more to us than any other team in the world and we don't want the Steelers to make history on us. Everyone gave up on us when we lost our impact players. If we had them then this game wouldn't be close. We rallied back as folks jumped off the bandwagon and now everyone is still saying the Packers aint good enough. Our guys knows all of this above. We have the advatage imo. If you wanna know who really knows their football,its not the commentators, or so called "experts". Its the beters. The spreads comes from those guys. Just everyday people who's life is sports and money. They gotta know their shit and they have us favored 2.5 points but the spreads are always conservative. I'm calling this score 24-30, Green Bay.

9)Good Luck!
 
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Originally posted by milkoman16
Great read btw

Heres my take on the game: Pitt has shown that the spread offense is their achilles heel if they have one. GB will in fact run this style of offense & prolly be pretty successful at it. The problem is can they do it the entire game & not make that big mistake that Pitt will make them pay for. The Steelers play the style of D that is focused on stopping the run (GB has none) & to not give up the big play by keeping all the short underneath stuff in front of them.

Yes, Rodgers is playing super right now & as long as their O-line can hold up & he can get a quick release to his WR's then the Steelers we will have trouble stopping the short pass game. The Patriots abused us in this fashion & I believe that GB has better WR's & can be more effective at this. The problem is GB does NOT have a great O-line & its pretty much a given that you can get to Rodgers & apply pressure - what the Steelers are best in NFL at. Steeler D has to show it can stop the pass game AND consistently get to Rodgers otherwise he will carve the Steelers secondary up even with Polomalu in the game.

If Steelers can adequately protect Ben then we can easily impose Our gameplan on them. Packer D is solid but I believe we have too many options for GB to counter. Mendy, Heath, Ward, Wallace, Sanders plus a pretty good run game that if it gets on track quickly will suck the life out of GB defense. Clay Matthews is a beast & fully expect him to cause problems in one way or another. Packer secondary is pretty good but like any secondary if the QB has time to extend the play or buy more time then they will surrender some big plays.

As a die-hard Black & Gold supporter & fan I want the Steelers to win but have no idea who will take the trophy in this one. I'm just hoping for an awesome game between 2 teams that definitely belong here. Prediction Steelers 31 Pack 27


Now, thats a good read and I agree with the most part. I don't think Matthews will get great numbers. I think he will be conatined decently but he may get a few pressures or sacks when Ben flushes out and Matthews chases him down. Rothielsburger sometimes dont know how to throw the ball away and takes a sack instead. I expect Matthews to cash in on that by forcing Ben to do something. He does play his ass off for the entire game so I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did do better than I expect
 
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